Netgear's DG834G v5 Wireless ADSL Router

agesalter · Jun 18, 2010, 20:18:49

Sorry Den, I have to side with Rik on this one.

Rik, does this really help with filtering?

Steve · Jun 18, 2010, 20:22:28

In theory no but I've seen it used on Sky boxes

Glenn · Jun 18, 2010, 21:01:23

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_and_parallel_circuits

Simon · Jun 18, 2010, 22:00:16

agesalter.

Ray · Jun 18, 2010, 22:39:19

agesalter · Jun 19, 2010, 08:39:36

Thanks guys.

Didn't want to hijack this thread but as you raised the point...

Just joined IDNET from fast4 (reseller of Murphex) and it's awesome. Rock solid speeds and pings so far, plus good support forum.

Rik · Jun 19, 2010, 08:40:03

Welcome to the forum Agesalter.

If filters were 100% efficient, then it would have no effect, but they are not. So, if a filter catches 90% of the ADSL signal (remember that the voice is a straight 'pass through'), then a second one in series would, in theory, mop up another 9%, giving a total of 99% efficiency. I'm not sure it's ever been tested, but I have seen it work, particularly with Sky boxes.

Rik · Jun 19, 2010, 08:41:22

Quote from: agesalter on Jun 19, 2010, 08:39:36
Just joined IDNET from fast4 (reseller of Murphex) and it's awesome. Rock solid speeds and pings so far, plus good support forum.

It will be even better after the world cup, IDNet have laid on extra bandwidth, but BT have not, and many areas are seeing local exchange congestion.

cyprio42 · Jun 19, 2010, 09:26:39

hi
using 2 filters makes no difference. I have nothing plugged in now only the router into the master socket. This is connected via ethernet. I can only get the internet by switching the router on/off. I am sure its a fault outside of my setup. Could be something to do with me recently going to ADSL2+. Idnet are on the case now.
thanks

Rik · Jun 19, 2010, 09:30:08

Given you've tried multiple routers and are at the test socket, I don't think there's any else you can do to help yourself, unfortunately. Good luck with BT.

gyruss · Jun 19, 2010, 15:14:23

Quote from: Rik on Jun 17, 2010, 08:32:29
Oh no they wouldn't.

Rik · Jun 19, 2010, 16:16:57

Den · Jun 19, 2010, 17:48:33

Quote from: Rik on Jun 17, 2010, 08:32:29
Oh no they wouldn't.

Oh yes they would the wires would be in parallel but the filters would appear to be in series. All telephone wiring is in parallel

cyprio42 · Jun 28, 2010, 18:13:07

Looks like I might have to head back to o2. I know the speed was not good at times but at least I had a stable connection. I have to reboot the router 2 to 3 times daily to get internet connection and its just to much. I have tried a new router, dongle, filter and phone. Nothing is connected to the phone line apart from the router, we are using the mobile. I have had one reply from idnet saying BT was looking into it. I see no change, in fact it could be worse. Thing is I dont mind ringing BT myself but will they ask about Idnet?

Glenn · Jun 28, 2010, 18:23:36

Have you tried a quiet line test, dial 17070 and select option 2? All you should hear is a gentle hum in the background.

Simon · Jun 28, 2010, 21:56:27

Yes, if you've tried everything internally, then it does indicate a possible fault on the line, which could well stay with you even if you change ISP. $:-\$

Bud · Jun 30, 2010, 08:49:58

So on IDNET, do you have to buy a new router or modem every five minutes?

Bud · Jun 30, 2010, 08:54:12

Could it be that cable and dumping BT is the answer?

Simon · Jun 30, 2010, 10:00:38

You don't have to buy a router every five minutes, but it's advisable to get one that works well with your line in the first place.

Bud · Jun 30, 2010, 10:03:18

It has been.....

Bud · Jun 30, 2010, 10:10:42

So then...what is best.....Netgear DM111p straight into master BT socket or wirless router?

Steve · Jun 30, 2010, 10:34:20

I think an adsl router would help ,its always on,you can have multiple wired and wireless connections, a LAN and a NAT firewall

Bud · Jun 30, 2010, 10:42:36

So what would you recommend?

I have always had an issue with security and wireless and so my main PC is in my studio using my netgear modem and when another user requires access on another machine this is turned off and the other machine accesses the internet via a speedtouch 330 so only one pc at a time is using the connection. Routing cable from my studio to other rooms would not be practical and quite difficult owing to layout. Now that I've been told that my modem must stay on it would seem that wireless is my only option here. And yet, in the manual for my modem it says that the button on the back of the unit is for switching on and off when not in use but the unit is still connected to the mains. (Netgear DM111p)

Simon · Jun 30, 2010, 10:49:50

The DG834G, as mentioned in this thread, suits most people, and can be bought pre-configured from IDNet.

Simon · Jun 30, 2010, 10:52:42

Talk to IDNet first, though, before you spend out again.