Not sure if this is the correct area for this, but I'm sure Rik will move it if it's not.
I'm in Australia and my ISP is TPG (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=232090) and for the last few days I have been trying to access THIS (http://pizdaus.com/index.php?sort=new) site. At first I was getting Server Not Found.
Rik helped me change my DNS and tried it again, now I'm getting this message;
The requested URL could not be retrieved
While trying to retrieve the URL: http://pizdaus.com/index.php?sort=new
The following error was encountered:
Unable to determine IP address from host name for pizdaus.com
The dnsserver returned:
Server Failure: The name server was unable to process this query.
This means: The proxy server was not able to resolve the hostname presented in the URL. The website you have tried to view may not exist. Please check if the address is correct and retry your request.
Please contact TPG Helpdesk or the cache administrator and quote your dialup/ADSL location and IP address if you feel this error is incorrect. If you are reporting this error to the cache administrator you must include this entire error message in your email. Without the correct details we may be unable to resolve your issue.
Your cache administrator is tpg-proxy@tpgi.com.au
I have asked on TPG's own FORUM (http://www.tpg.com.au/forum/) but they haven't replied.
So can anyone enlighten me, as all of this stuff gives me a headache. :stars:
Oh, and :newhere: and totally :conf:
Are TPG blocking access to the site via the proxy?
I don't know, how do I find that out? ???
Hi Misty - welcome.
I notice that www.pizdaus.com is redirected to www.pixdaus.com - is there any difference if you go straight to that?
If not, try putting the IP address 67.159.29.230 in place of pizdaus.com and see if that makes any difference. If so, then it is a DNS issue
Can you ping or tracert to either www.pizdaus.com or the IPaddress 67.159.29.230?
Hi MB and welcome to our neck of the woods. :) :welc: :karma:
I think Glenn is right, they're blocking access to the site, though why I don't know. Given you've used OpenDNS and the IP address, we know it's not a DNS issue, so you need to get TPG to answer you.
Quote from: Rik on Apr 05, 2008, 14:30:32
Given you've used OpenDNS and the IP address, we know it's not a DNS issue, so you need to get TPG to answer you.
Aha - that info kind of negates my post altogether - oh well :sigh:
Otoh - how did you know that Rik? Are you psychic? You're starting to scare me now ;D
MB and I met on Simon's forum, Mad, I invited her to come and sample our form of Nuttery. ;)
Quote from: Rik on Apr 05, 2008, 14:35:49
MB and I met on Simon's forum, Mad, I invited her to come and sample our form of Nuttery. ;)
That answered the question that I was about to ask. ;)
Quote from: Rik on Apr 05, 2008, 14:35:49
MB and I met on Simon's forum, Mad, I invited her to come and sample our form of Nuttery. ;)
Ah - that's OK then :)
Quote from: madasahatter on Apr 05, 2008, 14:27:45
Hi Misty - welcome.
Thanks madasahatter, love the name. :thumb:
We call him Mad, MB, as we're all lazy typists and can't cope with polysyllabic words. ;D
Quote from: Rik on Apr 05, 2008, 14:40:25
We call him Mad, MB, as we're all lazy typists and can't cope with polysyllabic words. ;D
Nor the long one's either.. ;D
Welcome MB, have a welcome Karma. :karma: :welc:
Quote from: mistybear on Apr 05, 2008, 14:39:33
Thanks madasahatter, love the name. :thumb:
Cheers Misty 8)
Forgot earlier - :karma:
Quote from: Rik on Apr 05, 2008, 14:35:49
Nuttery. ;)
Normal people just don't know what they are missing.
Quote from: Inactive on Apr 05, 2008, 14:42:32
Nor the long one's either.. ;D
Welcome MB, have a welcome Karma. :karma: :welc:
:lol: :thnks:
Quote from: Rik on Apr 05, 2008, 14:40:25
We call him Mad, MB, as we're all lazy typists and can't cope with polysyllabic words. ;D
Along with other reasons.............. and other names ;)
Quote from: mistybear on Apr 05, 2008, 14:45:32
Normal people just don't know what they are missing.
I don't think we have any normal people here, do we guys? ;D
Quote from: Rik on Apr 05, 2008, 14:46:58
I don't think we have any normal people here, do we guys? ;D
I'm not even a "people", so how can I be normal? ;D
This is true. No normal people or hoobs, MB. :)
Quote from: Rik on Apr 05, 2008, 14:48:30
This is true. No normal people or hoobs, MB. :)
:lol:
This is a newie, what is a hoob?
Ah...
Take a look here, MB:
http://www.channel4.com/learning/microsites/H/hoobs/meet/
:argh:
Well, no wonder I had no idea, and that's a rarity, the last thing I watched like that was the Muppets.
I've now posted on the Whirlpool Forum, which is frequented by TPG reps, but as it's 1.12am I doubt I'll get a reply till morning, much later in the morning.
And I think it's time I toddled off to bed as well. :yawn:
We don't tend to call Mad a muppet, MB, he gets upset. ;)
I prefer the Muppets MB.. ;) :duck:
I've always had a bit of a crush on Miss Piggie... :pig:
Me too Rik, she was so pigging cute. ;)
Kissy kissy! ;D
Quote from: Rik on Apr 05, 2008, 15:13:49
We don't tend to call Mad a muppet, MB, he gets upset. ;)
Yeah, mad as a muppet just doesn't have the same ring to it.
Quote from: Inactive on Apr 05, 2008, 15:14:41
I prefer the Muppets MB.. ;) :duck:
To what? :legpull: I loved the Swedish Chef.
Quote from: Rik on Apr 05, 2008, 15:15:49
I've always had a bit of a crush on Miss Piggie... :pig:
Don't know if it's wise to admit to that. ;D
Quote from: Rik on Apr 05, 2008, 15:13:49
We don't tend to call Mad a muppet, MB, he gets upset. ;)
Well, no wonder - those muppets are
so common ;D
Quote from: Inactive on Apr 05, 2008, 15:14:41
I prefer the Muppets MB.. ;) :duck:
:buttkick:
Quote from: mistybear on Apr 05, 2008, 15:20:25
Don't know if it's wise to admit to that. ;D
Round here, we admit to
anything. Draw your own conclusions about wisdom.... ;)
I'd forgotten the Swedish Chef, yes another favourite definitely...
Quote from: mistybear on Apr 05, 2008, 15:09:05
:argh:
Well, no wonder I had no idea, and that's a rarity, the last thing I watched like that was the Muppets.
I've now posted on the Whirlpool Forum, which is frequented by TPG reps, but as it's 1.12am I doubt I'll get a reply till morning, much later in the morning.
And I think it's time I toddled off to bed as well. :yawn:
Okay, I really have to stop posting as I'm posting things in the wrong spots.
Quote from: Rik on Apr 05, 2008, 15:24:53
Round here, we admit to anything. Draw your own conclusions about wisdom.... ;)
Not sure I'd go that far, well not yet anyway.
And I already have. ;D
;D
Don't worry about topics, round here we just see them as chocolate bars (we like to mention food in every thread if at all possible). When the staff are feeling energetic, we sometimes move threads, but it's a Saturday afternoon and... ;)
Round here misty, a thread that actually stays on topic is very rare indeed ;)
Look at this one for instance! ;D
Don't mention chocolate as I need to go to bed and chocolate before bed is a bad idea.
mad, I think it's the only way to run a forum, too bloody boring other wise.
Oops, am I allowed to say bloody, oops there I go again. :whistle:
You just did. ;)
I always thought going to bed with chocolate was a good idea - but I'm biased... (Sue's just baked a fresh batch of choc chip cookies and I'm about to test them. :happy:)
Let us know how they are, Rik. :)
Suitably gooey with the choc chips still in melt down. :food2:
I'm salivating just thinking about them. They sound exactly like a cookie should be. :P
It's difficult to type and shovel cookies in at the same time. >:D
You seem to be managing. :out:
;D
Years of dedicated practice mate. :laugh:
:rofl:
Hi MB, and :welc: ;)
Quote from: Sebby on Apr 05, 2008, 15:54:45
I'm salivating
Should you be doing that in mixed company Sebby? ;D
Quote from: madasahatter on Apr 05, 2008, 18:47:28
Should you be doing that in mixed company Sebby? ;D
Probably not. :blush: ;D
I knew I'd seen that pussy before - on my odd visit to PCPals. ;)
:welcome: to the MAD house!
Who mentioned chocolate? Mad? You? :choc:
Oh, and Mad something went wrong with the tardis, I've re materialized as the wrong Hoob!
HELP >:D :whistle:
Quote from: Rik on Apr 05, 2008, 14:40:25
We call him Mad, MB, as we're all lazy typists and can't cope with polysyllabic words. ;D
I saw your post and it rang a bell, now I know why:
http://www.penguin.co.uk/static/cs/uk/0/minisites/nickhornby/books/ps_synopsis.html
Quote from: Malc on Apr 05, 2008, 22:39:27
Oh, and Mad something went wrong with the tardis, I've re materialized as the wrong Hoob!
HELP >:D :whistle:
Oh my - what
have you been up to?
You've not been doing naughty things with Tula have you, cos blue and red makes purple ;D
:rofl:
:yes: :leer: :leer:
Quote from: Simon on Apr 05, 2008, 18:43:02
Hi MB, and :welc: ;)
Thanks Simon, now I can annoy you over here as well. :hehe:
Quote from: Malc on Apr 05, 2008, 22:39:27
I knew I'd seen that pussy before - on my odd visit to PCPals. ;)
:welcome: to the MAD house!
Thanks Malc, Yes, my pussy is quite well known. :leer:
Quote from: Niall on Apr 05, 2008, 22:46:56
I saw your post and it rang a bell, now I know why:
http://www.penguin.co.uk/static/cs/uk/0/minisites/nickhornby/books/ps_synopsis.html
Interesting link, thanks Niall. :)
I have received a few replies, but I'm still waiting on TPG to explain, could be a while.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=951988
I don't think much of Judge, MB. Total waffle - the site is not down, you know it, I know it... :)
Why would TPG want a screenshot?
Do they want to see what browser I'm using, seems odd to me.
I suspect they just don't trust you to get the error message right, MB. A screen shot guarantees it. :(
They want to see the exact error message you are getting, it may help them trace the cause of the problem, the browser would not of concern to them, but it may help them replicate the issue.
I copy and pasted it, including the time thingy at the bottom.
I only learnt how to do screen shot last week, thanks to Michael, children do come in handy at times.
:)
They do. Did he teach you the difference between the active window and the full screen?
I think that's what he was talking about, when they wanted the shot, but I was busy with other stuff. Is that the full screen without the toolbars and such, no.
You want to teach me.
Hi MB
For the entire screen, hit PrtScr then copy into an image-editing program, eg Paint to Photoshop.
For the active window, hit Alt+PrtScr.
:karmic: Rik, I didn't know about the alt bit :)
I use it a lot, Malc. Thanks. :)
Now I can hide the things that are running in the bottom right hand corner of the screen ;)
You could always crop them anyway. :)
I see the difference, what's the advantage of hiding the bottom task bar?
I was more worried about hiding the top one(s). ;D
There's not necessarily an advantage, MB, it really depends what you want to capture. I use Alt+PrtScr because usually I just want part of the desktop, and that way I put less on the clipboard.
Quote from: mistybear on Apr 06, 2008, 10:48:28
I see the difference, what's the advantage of hiding the bottom task bar?
I was more worried about hiding the top one(s). ;D
If you've got lots of applications open, you might not want someone else to see. :)
Quote from: Sebby on Apr 06, 2008, 11:47:49
If you've got lots of applications open, you might not want someone else to see. :)
:thumb: That was my point too, like utorrent, eh? ;)
Well, you could be using uTorrent for legitimate reasons; lots of applications are available via BitTorrent - OpenOffice, Ubuntu, etc. I was thinking more along the lines of emails or other websites that you visit. :)
Quote from: Sebby on Apr 06, 2008, 11:56:36
Well, you could be using uTorrent for legitimate reasons; lots of applications are available via BitTorrent - OpenOffice, Ubuntu, etc. I was thinking more along the lines of emails or other websites that you visit. :)
Oh, you, of course, I forgot that.
That's your guilty conscience working overtime Malc ;)
Nothing to be guilty of. ;)
:rofl:
I note at the end of that thread, it seems to be emerging that the site may have been blacklisted by your ISP, MB. I guess there's not a lot you can do about that, apart from change ISP, unless they can be persuaded to remove the blacklist entry. I haven't come across anything on the pics site that I would consider to be inappropriate.
Rubbish, yes, inappropriate, no. :)
Oh, indeed, but there are also some gems.
Agreed. This past week has been a bit disappointing, overall, though.
Quote from: Simon on Apr 06, 2008, 12:02:30
I note at the end of that thread, it seems to be emerging that the site may have been blacklisted by your ISP, MB. I guess there's not a lot you can do about that, apart from change ISP, unless they can be persuaded to remove the blacklist entry. I haven't come across anything on the pics site that I would consider to be inappropriate.
It's very frustrating, as others can access it through different ISP's. And I wasn't aware that ISP's had the right to restrict or censor a customers internet browsing.
Does anyone know how to use another ISP's proxy, as someone suggested from the aussie forum.
Quoteworks if you use a telstra proxy: proxy.cache.telstra.net port:3128
Never needed to, sorry, MB. :(
Me neither. :(
Just out of interest MB, browse to www.hidemyass.com then see if if you can get to the pizdaus site from there - it's an anonymous free proxy service ;)
Thanks mad,
I was a little concerned when it took over half an hour to install, and 5 minutes to open the first page, but this is a great site http://pixdaus.com/index.php?sort=new
Finally, but only for three days. But it does prove something, which is what by the way?
Your ISP either has a routing issue to the site or is blocking it, MB.
Quote from: mistybear on Apr 06, 2008, 14:17:15
But it does prove something, which is what by the way?
:lol:
np misty - glad you were finally able to get to it :)
I don't think I'll keep the program though, as everything is taking a very long time to load. I'm assuming that it is "Hide my IP" that is slowing everything down.
Hide my beautifully shaped posterior sits between you and websites, MB, so does slow things down a bit. It's a not a program though, just a website you can use - handy to test routing issues.
Quote from: Rik on Apr 06, 2008, 14:42:51
Hide my beautifully shaped posterior sits between you and websites, MB,
No wonder it's taking so long....... :out: :hehe:
Sorry, couldn't resist, I'm sure it is beautifully shaped. :leer:
Thanks, for the explanation as this is all new to me. :thumb:
NP. :)
It's the kilt which bulks it out, btw. ;)
it shouldn't slow anything down that much though misty - maybe a couple of seconds - not much more. It's not a program - just a website that you visit, then go on to the website that you want. I've just looked back through the thread, and you mention "half an hour to install" - not sure what you mean by that? You shouldn't have to install anything.
Bloody hell, now he tells me. ;D
I downloaded and installed "Hide My IP 2007" 3 day trial. My current location is America. :whistle:
You didn't need to do that, MB, but at least you now have an idea of what it feels like to be a Yank. ;)
Quote from: mistybear on Apr 06, 2008, 15:25:45
Bloody hell, now he tells me. ;D
I downloaded and installed "Hide My IP 2007" 3 day trial. My current location is America. :whistle:
Sorry misty - obviously a misunderstanding - maybe the name of the site put you off? ;D
It's so useful
because you don't have to install anything, and you can use it completely free whenever you want. www.proogly.com is another one you can use. In either one you just type the address of the website you want in the address bar on the page. :)
No probs mad, I often misunderstand, I'll blame the medication. :whistle:
My brother is a Yank and that's bad enough, and this is as close as I want to get.
Now how many members from America have I offended. ;D
I don't think we've got any, except you, MB. ;)
MB is from Australia, Rik. ;)
I know. See reply #89. ;)
They have Americans in Australia Simon, also a few in Iraq, so rumour has it. ;D :legpull:
Ha, that reminds me of a comedy where someone was told "they're from Austria" and the reply was "ahh gday mate" :D
Quote from: madasahatter on Apr 06, 2008, 15:31:42
Sorry misty - obviously a misunderstanding - maybe the name of the site put you off? ;D
It's so useful because you don't have to install anything, and you can use it completely free whenever you want. www.proogly.com is another one you can use. In either one you just type the address of the website you want in the address bar on the page. :)
I went back to the site and entered the website, works well. I'll bookmark both of those as I may need them if my ISP doesn't sort this out.
I did get an email from them, so I'll have to wait and see......
QuoteI already requested our proxy admins to have a look at this. I will update you as soon as I get a feedback from them. Thanks.
It'll be interesting to see what they say!
Indeed it will. I remember how poorly implemented Supanet's proxy server was...
Well, I have received a reply, but according to the fine print at the bottom of their emails, I'm not allowed to let anyone see it??
QuoteThis email and any attachments are confidential and may be subject to copyright, legal or some other professional privilege. They are intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). They may only be copied, distributed or disclosed with the consent of the copyright owner.
If you have received this email by mistake or by breach of the confidentiality clause, please notify the sender immediately by return email and delete or destroy all copies of the email. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this email has been sent to you by mistake.
Now I don't wish to break any laws which could involve the forum, but if it's okay by the Admins, I'll share their reply.
Oh, and TPG's forum has locked the thread I started about this, very odd behaviour. :eyebrow:
I don't think it's an issue unless there's something particularly private in there. Others have posted replies in the past...
Otherwise, you could just summarise it for us. :)
No, I'd much rather copy and paste the lot. ;D
QuoteHi,
It appears that the site is being blocked by Spamhaus.org because of
some of their unacceptable practice. The site admin will need to contact
Spamhaus to sort this out with them.
Should you have further inquiries, let me know. Thanks.
Go ahead, MB. :)
Ah, well, that would explain it.
Certainly would...
I'm glad it explains things, could someone explain it to me please?
They're using an outside organisation (Spamhaus) to determine what sites to block. Spamhaus has decided this is a bad site, possibly because of the pop ups and pop unders, so it's blocked it. TBH, I think it's an overreaction, if it's true.
Quote from: mistybear on Apr 08, 2008, 09:11:52
I'm glad it explains things, could someone explain it to me please?
This sounds like a normal conversation here ;)
Do they have a right to block sites, isn't that just a form of censorship. And what are the guidelines on what sites they deem "unacceptable". Is there a an actual legal document that all ISP's have to follow, or do they make this up as they go?
I just don't understand how they have the right to block sites, well that is stating the obvious. :blush:
If you read the small print, MB, I'd guess they reserve the right to do pretty much anything they like. How long are you tied to them for?
Are their laws and guidelines for ISP's, or can they do whatever they like?
I don't think we are under contract to them.
Michael is looking into another plan as our speeds are ridiculously slow.
I'm drafting a reply to TPG, and I'm going to ask them why they use Spamhaus and what are their guidelines, and Spamhaus's. Any other suggestions as to what I could ask?
I don't know the legal situation in Oz, MB, but here this kind of thing would be covered by the small print, I can pretty much guarantee it.
Try asking what their resolution process is when a site is wrongly blacklisted.
I think I will ask them send me a copy of their "small print".
But it's not them blocking it, they say loud and clear that they don't block sites, they get someone else to do it.
This reminds me of dealing with my landlord, but they had three layers of BS.
If they are employing Spamhaus, they are choosing to block sites. What other reason do they have to employ them?
I didn't get all the answers I wanted, so I might ask Spamhaus.org. But first I'll wait and see if they do unblock it.
QuoteHi Kate,
We utilize Spamhaus to filter out websites that could possibly cause problems. They have their own guidelines on what constitutes an unacceptable site.
We have already placed a request from them to unblock this site but we are yet to hear any feedback. We will let you know as soon as we get any.
A thing to note though, if upon being unblocked, in the future, the site gets blocked again by Spamhaus, we may not be able to do much. It may have to be the site's admin who will need to coordinate with Spamhaus.
To be fair, if they use Spamhaus, then what they say is pretty much true. It is up to Spamhaus to block or unblock sites according to their own guidelines. All they can do is request an unblock, but if Spamhaus decide not to, then there is little really that they can do. With this site, it may well be Spamhaus system getting a little over zealous, which they will sort out.
Found an interesting diagram on their site that explains, I think, their filtering, blocking and who does the blocking.
http://www.spamhaus.org/dnsbl_function.html
Things are often simpler as a diagram - thanks! :)
The thing that strikes me as odd is that an ISP would abrogate its own responsibility, and allow a third party to decide what is, and is not, acceptable. Personally, I'd be looking for a new ISP, MB.
I suspect a degree of laziness on their part, Rik. It's almost a half-hearted solution to a problem.
I agree, Sebby. That's why I'd be looking for another ISP - what other corners do they cut?
Good point. ::)
Quote from: Rik on Apr 09, 2008, 09:18:05
The thing that strikes me as odd is that an ISP would abrogate its own responsibility, and allow a third party to decide what is, and is not, acceptable. Personally, I'd be looking for a new ISP, MB.
Yes, we have been thinking about it, but I wonder where, in their fine print, do they say if they use "filtering".
I also looked at SpamCop, and they have a forum, haven't had the time to have a good look yet. I haven't had time to have a look around here yet. :bawl:
http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?s=56a22621e8b8791a4247ffd18735435d&showforum=11
Just ask them as party of the sales process, MB. :)
:lol: I spend so much time searching for information on the internet, I forget that I can actually ask someone on the phone and save so much time. :argh:
Thanks for reminding me. :thumb:
I know what you mean, there is a tendency to reach for Google rather than the phone these days. :)
I had forgotten all about this till just now and tried the site again, and it's unblocked. I hadn't received an email from TPG so I assumed that they hadn't heard from Spamhaus, so I think I will email them and say thanks. ;D
Sounds like a result, MB. :thumb:
Yep, a good result indeed. :)