Is it only Bill an Me capped to 2mb ?

Scott · Apr 07, 2006, 13:51:37

All,

Here's a very useful explanation of the high synch / poor throughput following an upgrade to Max that some people may be experiencing. Was this what you were referring to Jeff ?
Cheers

S

Scott · Apr 07, 2006, 20:34:56

Huzzah and whoop-de-doo...whatever magic was needed has been done

Jeff · Apr 07, 2006, 21:12:47

I dunno Scott ... I read a lot!

Hey, nice speeds man ... ye ^%$£")&! j/k

Xbandito · Apr 07, 2006, 21:16:31

Quote from: Scott on Apr 07, 2006, 20:34:56
Huzzah and whoop-de-doo...whatever magic was needed has been done

You know what he's done.......

He's paid for 1/1 contention

Jeff · Apr 07, 2006, 21:29:11

LMAO

Scott · Apr 07, 2006, 21:47:21

Quote from: Xbandito on Apr 07, 2006, 21:16:31
You know what he's done.......
He's paid for 1/1 contention

RoFL....too tight but I'd love to :0) !!??!
That's one of the things on the list when the lottery numbers come up though

Jeff · Apr 07, 2006, 21:52:28

Hey, I wonder why we`ve never come across any business punters either here or at AG? Must be that "Enhanced Care" package that Miriam and Simon deliver personally

They don`t wanna rub shoulders with us home peasants

Xbandito · Apr 07, 2006, 21:55:25

Quote from: Jeff on Apr 07, 2006, 21:52:28
Hey, I wonder why we`ve never come across any business punters either here or at AG? Must be that "Enhanced Care" package that Miriam and Simon deliver personally They don`t wanna rub shoulders with us home peasants

Oh come on....most business punters will be doing what Scott's doing

Scott · Apr 07, 2006, 23:34:49

Quote from: Xbandito on Apr 07, 2006, 21:55:25
Oh come on....most business punters will be doing what Scott's doing

Wha...gettin' pissed ?

Jeff · Apr 07, 2006, 23:46:44

LMAO ... have we ever had sober Fridays??

roland · Apr 08, 2006, 06:23:41

OK the magic 72 hrs has been and gone and still stuck on my old speed.

Nice looking at the 7200 synch speed been looking at it for 3 days) but would be nice to see what it really means.

MarkZX12R · Apr 08, 2006, 08:15:03

Well i`m happy with max dsl, gone from 1meg to just under 3.5 meg

B52 · Apr 08, 2006, 09:33:22

Yep, mine is upto 4.2Mb this am. Started slowly but over 3 days has gradually increased from the upgrade from 1Mb to 2, yesterday 3ish. Todays is the highest its been. Not expecting anymore. If it stays like this, Im happy.

roland · Apr 08, 2006, 10:09:34

Perhaps that is the problem - mine went straight to 7200 sync (and now 8128 using a wireless router on the master socket) but cannot break the 2M cap. Would be nice to see what the connection could actually do.

Scott · Apr 08, 2006, 22:19:46

Quote from: Jeff on Apr 07, 2006, 23:46:44
LMAO ... have we ever had sober Fridays??

Hell no !!?

Jeff · Apr 09, 2006, 21:37:39

Or Sundays *hic*

Speedfreak · Apr 10, 2006, 00:00:19

I just rebooted my router after been capped for 5 days

2 hrs later the speed went through the roof!

Happy chappy now

Jeff · Apr 10, 2006, 00:35:28

Good stuff ... yer lucky you`re router stayed up for that long

Welcome to IDNetters man

Speedfreak · Apr 10, 2006, 10:59:21

Thanks for the welcome...good to be here.

pazzaTgreat · Apr 10, 2006, 12:14:22

I'm a new migrant to IDnet and I did have the cap of 2MB since I use a router and it was left on etc etc.

However, as of this morning, been getting rollercoaster speeds ranging from 2.5 Mbit up to 6Mbit - my best download this morning was a whopping 760KB per second.

I am synching at 8128/448 and have an SNR margin of 14/22 down/up

I tried the switch off your router overnight malarkey on Sunday - and I appear to have a new BRAS letting some whopping speeds through now althrough they are arratic during the 10 day training session.

Hope that hasn't annoyed anyone

Speedfreak · Apr 10, 2006, 22:55:41

Welcome to the fastlane bud.

Jeff · Apr 10, 2006, 23:31:18

Welcome pazza

Max speeds erratic eh? Well, as this is unfolding we can expect this as the norm. While Max means that we don`t have the traditional 20:1 and 50:1 contention ratios at the exchange anymore, it doesn`t mean that it isn`t prioritised. There is a heirachy which is digitally determined but I have no further info. on this yet, but the way I see things, peak time congestion still exists. It has been mentioned that most of us will be lucky to see throughput of around 2Mbit during peak times (even if synced way higher than that) and those of us unlucky enough to be on a congested exchange may not even see that.

For example, if my peak time throughput was 0.5Mbit pre-MaxDSL even if I was synced at 2Mbit, then it will remain that way post-MaxDSL. All MaxDSL does is allows you throughput up to 8Mbit (minus overheads) but will be lower if you can`t sync at 8Mbit (obviously) and during busy times ... I doubt whether any BT exchange can cope with every ADSL punter downloading at 800+ KB/sec

pazzaTgreat · Apr 10, 2006, 23:47:03

Thanks for the welcome guys.

On an unrelated note - it is *VERY* refreshing to be able to talk to humans at the other end of a support line within seconds AND those humans to be both, well -human- and KNOWLEDGEABLE! Simon and Miriam are a breath of fresh air to my ISP disillusioned self.

To reply to Jeff's point - yes the Max product is uncontended in the traditional sense but that doesn't necessarily mean BT don't plan to have some infrastructure to support most punters getting the MAX out of their connection. Their overall business model which is to eventually to support TV on demand will need the vast majority of subscribers to be able to get near max throughput and they will no doubt eventually get ADSL2+ or VDSL adopted. They won't push fibre to the home as that will prove too costly short term until some ADSL returns start generating the requisite profits.

Whoops - long tirade there but my point was to be ....

I agree with Jeff insofar as us early adopters will suffer until such time as the BT network is capable of delivering their plans. and they may plan to get as far as delivering HDTV on demand - think of the data rate which would be required to deliver real time broadcasting.

Of course, I might well have picked some of this up wrong.

Jeff · Apr 11, 2006, 00:10:34

We are miles away from getting HDTV on demand m8

Two cons: Bandwidth costs and infrastructure. Both need radically sorting out and most won`t get decent ADSL2+ sync rates ... there is a checker somewhere but can`t remember where I spotted it. I`d be lucky to sync any higher than I currently do with Max as I`m too far from exchange.

VDSL would deffo be the way to go but requires fibre, but as we know, ADSL signals can't pass through the conversion from analogue to digital to analogue which is that occurs if a portion of a telephone circuit comes through fibre, so the precedent would have to be decided ... I can`t see BT ripping out the copper to replace with fibre neither

Vicious circle, eh?

Life was much simpler on DUN. Connected at 49333 and throughput 5.5KB/sec no matter what!!

pazzaTgreat · Apr 11, 2006, 00:38:07

Absolutely Jeff, but at some point some vicious money grabbing BT exec HAS to take such a decision, which means they need something which will deliver more than 2Mbit to 80% + of the population.

Although I'm in a small rural Scottish location, I am only 500m of loop from the exchange so I'll get the most out of whatever they put in place.

However, I'm in a small rural scottish location

so I won't be seeing any of the further improvements that might come along in a hurry. That's why I'm so bleedin' grateful for the MAXdsl product.

btw- some small proportion of the population can get HDTV on demand with ADSL2+ but it has proven somewhat unreliable. I would continue but I am new and am painfully aware that this is now unrelated to the thread.

However, with reference to the checker thing ...

http://www.internode.on.net/images/copyright/internode-adsl2-distance.jpg

gives, an indication of loop length vs bandwidt with ADSL2+

check http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/maxdsl.htm for more info.