I'm bored - where is everyone?

Rik · Feb 28, 2009, 17:45:44

Anyway, given I wasn't posting, I thought I'd run a few speedtests...

Speedtest.net:

Speed.io:

Namesco:
http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=1235844299&v=6394953 which shows:
Download Speed: 2629 kbps (328.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 706 kbps (88.3 KB/sec transfer rate)

BT:

Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
Your DSL connection rate: 2848 kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 832 kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP profile for your line is - 2500 kbps
Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 2349 kbps

Not bad for a 2500 profile.

BrianM · Feb 28, 2009, 18:03:51

Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
Your DSL connection rate: 5184 kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 448 kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP profile for your line is - 4500 kbps
Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 4155 kbps

Results from http://www.speed.io
(Copied on 2009-02-28 18:02:57)
Download: 4357 Kbit/s
Upload : 372 kbit/s
Connects : 1714 conn/min
Ping: 56 ms

Rik · Feb 28, 2009, 18:05:51

Now I'm bored and jealous, Brian.

talos · Feb 28, 2009, 18:08:33

Results from http://www.speed.io
(Copied on 2009-02-28 18:06:25)
Download: 1407 Kbit/s
Upload : 387 kbit/s
Connects : 2553 conn/min
Ping: 34 ms

Not too shabby

Rik · Feb 28, 2009, 18:13:41

What's your sync speed, Bob?

Ray · Feb 28, 2009, 18:16:08

I won't post mine, Rik, you really will be bored and jealous then.

Rik · Feb 28, 2009, 18:16:49

You're too kind, Ray.

Ray · Feb 28, 2009, 18:18:49

Quote from: Rik on Feb 28, 2009, 18:16:49

You're too kind, Ray.

I know, Rik,

I wouldn't want to spoil your weekend.

Glenn · Feb 28, 2009, 18:19:17

Your DSL connection rate: 2528 kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 832 kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP profile for your line is - 2000 kbps
Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 1871 kbps

Now you are bored and smug

BrianM · Feb 28, 2009, 18:19:47

Speedtouch 33, happy with the speeds this past week or so. Second episode of The Genius of Photography on BBC 2 tonight 1900. if your interested Rik

Rik · Feb 28, 2009, 18:20:08

Quote from: Glenn on Feb 28, 2009, 18:19:17
Your DSL connection rate: 2528 kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 832 kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP profile for your line is - 2000 kbps
Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 1871 kbps

Now you are bored and smug

Well, mildly pleased anyway, Glenn.

Rik · Feb 28, 2009, 18:20:36

Quote from: BrianM on Feb 28, 2009, 18:19:47
Speedtouch 33, happy with the speeds this past week or so. Second episode of The Genius of Photography on BBC 2 tonight if your interested Rik

Got it in my Sky+ planner, thanks Brian.

merlin · Feb 28, 2009, 20:10:54

RIK this might ruin your whole day then

? you should move to idnet its much better !!!

Den · Feb 28, 2009, 22:13:48

Just thought you might loke this one Rik

I dont believe it either

Den · Feb 28, 2009, 22:16:08

Just ran it again and it came up with 6300kbs Much more normal

J!ll · Feb 28, 2009, 22:49:03

Colin Burns · Mar 01, 2009, 01:20:43

got board so i thought i would join in

Results from http://www.speed.io
(Copied on 2009-03-01 01:17:45)
Download: 6998 Kbit/s
Upload : 707 kbit/s
Connects : 2353 conn/min
Ping: 26 ms

would have done a bt speed test but linux wont let me lol

Baz · Mar 01, 2009, 07:57:27

youre bored Rik?? look at me billy no mates

Baz · Mar 01, 2009, 07:58:08

Hi baz, Im here too mate. hows it going havent seen you for a while

Baz · Mar 01, 2009, 07:59:30

eeeee hello there Baz. you up early. aye its going ok thanks you?

bit slow here this morn though, like watching paint dry. what can I do

Baz · Mar 01, 2009, 08:01:48

yes got up cos a house alarm went off over the road and woke me.

what can you do hmmmmm how about make a brew couple of biccies, bit toast....

Baz · Mar 01, 2009, 08:03:14

nah just had one about half hour ago couldnt do another. might go for a walk its a nice morning here. whats it like at your place

Baz · Mar 01, 2009, 08:04:23

its ok bit cloudy but might get out later.

tell you what its a good job its slow today i can get to the loo and back and still not miss any thing

Glenn · Mar 01, 2009, 08:04:51

Boo

Baz · Mar 01, 2009, 08:05:14

aye you're right there mate. any hoos im off now catch ya later baz

Baz · Mar 01, 2009, 08:05:42

crikey Glenn take it easy

Baz · Mar 01, 2009, 08:06:47

ok Baz cya soon.

some people will do any thing to get their post count up wont they....that Baz eh?

Glenn · Mar 01, 2009, 08:07:30

Baz, are you and your mate Baz off for a walk then?

Baz · Mar 01, 2009, 08:09:21

no he's more of a 'go for a walk in the car' person. lazy thing

Glenn · Mar 01, 2009, 08:10:49

Glenn · Mar 01, 2009, 08:12:47

Send him out to get the papers , walk the dog etc

Steve · Mar 01, 2009, 08:18:15

Must have persuaded both of them to go

Baz · Mar 01, 2009, 08:21:21

im still here

Glenn · Mar 01, 2009, 08:33:44

How about your mate, the other Baz?

talos · Mar 01, 2009, 08:45:10

Quote from: Rik on Feb 28, 2009, 18:13:41
What's your sync speed, Bob?

Status SHOWTIME
Downstream Upstream

Data Rate (Kbps) 1920 448

Noise Margin (dB) 11 19

Attenuation (dB) 48 31
Is that what you mean Rik?

Rik · Mar 01, 2009, 10:53:25

Quote from: Baz on Mar 01, 2009, 08:05:14
aye you're right there mate. any hoos im off now catch ya later baz

Rik · Mar 01, 2009, 10:56:47

Quote from: talos on Mar 01, 2009, 08:45:10
   Status SHOWTIME
Downstream Upstream

   Data Rate (Kbps) 1920 448

   Noise Margin (dB) 11 19

   Attenuation (dB) 48 31
Is that what you mean Rik?

That's it, Bob. Your speed is right for the profile you will be getting from that sync speed, but on a 48db line, you should be achieving much better speeds. Do you have an NTE5 master socket, the kind where the bottom part of the face plate can be removed? If so, have you tried connecting the router in the test socket which is revealed there?

talos · Mar 01, 2009, 16:25:19

No Rick, our telephone system is antique, it has GPO on the junction box, the master skt looks like it was put in by a DIY er, and the feed to the house on poles, so I am quite happy to have a broadband connection at all, most of the villages near here are still on dial up.

Rik · Mar 01, 2009, 16:29:11

It might be worth having a word with support to see if they can suggest anything, Bob, but I suspect it would probably end up with a BT visit which would cost you money.

talos · Mar 01, 2009, 16:30:49

Thats what I'm afraid of rik

Rik · Mar 01, 2009, 16:34:18

Ask them, though, Bob, they may have a trick or two they can try.

vitriol · Mar 01, 2009, 18:20:31

As everyone's posting them here mine

Rik · Mar 01, 2009, 18:21:48

I'm still jealous.

LesD · Mar 01, 2009, 19:40:47

For anyone, who may or may not be bored, what do you make of this conundrum!
Here is my result at 19:10 1/3/9

This puzzles me because it suggests an IP Profile of 3000 kbps and my current sync speed is as follows:
DSL Down Up
Current Rate: 3456 kbs 448 kbs
and has not been above 3500 kbps in months due to my Noise Margin being set at 15 dB, see below:

Time Line Rate Max1 Max2 Max3 Mgn1 Mgn2 Attn Pwr
2009/03/01 19:15:07 GMT 1 3456 3464 2372 2372 15.0 11.0 40.5 18.8

A further puzzle is that I have started to suffer from the 12 (plus a bit) day reboot issue and it last happened on Friday evening and I re-synced at under 3000 kbps with a consequent throughput of 1945 kbps. An instant drop in IP Profile to 2000 kbps is what I suspected. (How I love BT)!

The reason this is a puzzle is that I have the BT software that I have always had and being a single SSID model I have relied quite successfully on the DNS poisoning technique I learnt about from this forum and not the alternative unlocking firmware.

Model: BT2700HGV
Hardware Version: 2701-100588-005
Hardware Options: Wireless present
DSL Modem Type: ADSL
Current Software: 5.29.107.19
DSL Modem: 7.2.2

I was under the impression that the BT firmware was immune to the 12 day reboot issue but it has been happening too regularly to be a coincidence, in my opinion, in recent times!

The first puzzle I mentioned is how, after just under 2 days from the reboot when I synced at under 3000 kbps and found my throughput at 1945 kbps, can I have what must be an IP Profile of 3000 kbps to permit the thoughtput you see above namely 2916 kbps, when the current sync speed is 3456 kbs

?

I have tried BBMax a couple of times and SpeedTest. net and they concur with each other. I haven't got the patience to go play with the BT Speed Tester so my IP Profiles are deductions based on the BBMax and SpeedTest. net results.

One of life's little mysteries or does someone know better.............

Rik · Mar 02, 2009, 10:12:41

It's worth trying the BT test, Les, as it's been much more reliable of late. That will establish your profile and it does seem less prone to distortion by AV software.

esh · Mar 02, 2009, 15:49:05

Rik needs more work.

Anyone want to delegate something?

Rik · Mar 02, 2009, 15:51:19

The rest of the staff already did.

Glenn · Mar 02, 2009, 16:15:52

You can come down here and clear Trojans on laptops, that's what I have done for the past 2 working days

Rik · Mar 02, 2009, 16:16:31

Deep joy.

LesD · Mar 02, 2009, 20:28:30

Quote from: Rik on Mar 02, 2009, 10:12:41
It's worth trying the BT test, Les, as it's been much more reliable of late. That will establish your profile and it does seem less prone to distortion by AV software.

Well OK, as you thought it worthwhile, I ran the BT Speed test and got this:

Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
Your DSL connection rate: 3456 kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 448 kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP profile for your line is - 3000 kbps
Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 2808 kbps

As I surmised I have an IP Profile of 3000 kbps.

Just like yesterday these are my current stats. this evening:
DSL Down Up
Current Rate: 3456 kbs 448 kbs
Max Rate: 3456 kbs 1048 kbs

The 2Wire's "Current Rate" concurs with what BT call my "DSL connection rate" and I refer to as the "synch speed".

The question remains how did I get this IP Profile when I have not synced above 3500 kbps since last Autumn?

Have BT changed the 500 kbps band between maximum throughput and synch rate rounded to the nearest 500 kbps?
I recall mention some time ago about the possibility of this 500 figure coming down to 250 kbps but have heard no more about it.

Finally does anyone else with a Single SSID 2700HGV and the BT firmware get affected by the 12 day router reboot problem?

Simon · Mar 02, 2009, 20:47:56

Quote from: Rik on Mar 02, 2009, 15:51:19
The rest of the staff already did.

We haven't started yet!

Lance · Mar 02, 2009, 23:10:37

Quote from: LesD on Mar 02, 2009, 20:28:30
The question remains how did I get this IP Profile when I have not synced above 3500 kbps since last Autumn?

Have BT changed the 500 kbps band between maximum throughput and synch rate rounded to the nearest 500 kbps?
I recall mention some time ago about the possibility of this 500 figure coming down to 250 kbps but have heard no more about it.

Finally does anyone else with a Single SSID 2700HGV and the BT firmware get affected by the 12 day router reboot problem?

From the FAQ sticky...

Quote
Sync between 3424 & 3999 = Profile of 3000

So you can see that you are just high enough to get the profile you're on!

As for the BT software on the 2wire, I've not heard of anyone having the 300 hours problem. I've only seen it affect the SBC firmware.

Rik · Mar 03, 2009, 07:57:37

3456 does get you a 3000 profile, Les, the range for the latter is 3424-3999.

LesD · Mar 03, 2009, 21:38:45

Thanks for putting me right chaps!

You can learn something new every day without a doubt!

I will have to keep my eye on this reboot every 12 and a bit days phenomenon with my BT firmware.
I also have a suspicion that going to close to my router with the vacuum or should that be cyclone (not wishing to name drop) cleaner has the same effect!

Sebby · Mar 03, 2009, 23:16:39

It sounds like the router is scared of the vacuum. Maybe it's the 'noise'...

LesD · Mar 07, 2009, 16:31:24

The picture below is about as good as gets for me at the moment!

With these stats from the info. I was given earlier in this thread by Lance and Rik you can see that it is skin of the teeth stuff to keep my IP Profile of 3000 kbps!

DSL Down Up
Current Rate: 3424 kbs 448 kbs
Max Rate: 3424 kbs 1056 kbs
Current Connection:
Current Noise Margin: 15.0 dB 25.0 dB
Current Attenuation: 40.4 dB 26.0 dB
Current Output Power: 19.1 dBm 11.9 dBm

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Rik · Mar 07, 2009, 18:07:08

If you could get that target margin down, Les, you'd get to about 4.5M.

LesD · Mar 07, 2009, 18:16:18

Quote from: Rik on Mar 07, 2009, 18:07:08
If you could get that target margin down, Les, you'd get to about 4.5M.

I know Rik I have been there in the past when the target noise margin was 12 dB

It's the drop in the evenings that kills me. These are the Stats now:
DSL Down Up
Current Rate: 3424 kbs 448 kbs
Max Rate: 3424 kbs 1056 kbs
Current Connection:
Current Noise Margin: 13.0 dB 25.0 dB
Current Attenuation: 40.4 dB 26.0 dB
Current Output Power: 19.0 dBm 11.9 dBm

and that 13 dB will be 10 by 8 PM

IDNet did get the 15 db reduced to 9 dB for me last year and I was synching 1000 kbps higher but it did not last long before it was back at 15 dB.

Maybe 9 dB was aiming too low and I should ask again for 12dB but I feel that this is just being a nuisance as with a 3000 kbps IP Profile I can do all I need to. So I have my

that it will stay there.

Rik · Mar 07, 2009, 18:18:06

You may have to make the classic trade of speed versus stability, Les. I prefer the latter, so opted for a 9db margin to give me it. It's not ideal, but we have to make the best of a BT bad job.

LesD · Mar 07, 2009, 18:25:08

Quote from: Rik on Mar 07, 2009, 18:18:06
You may have to make the classic trade of speed versus stability, Les. I prefer the latter, so opted for a 9db margin to give me it. It's not ideal, but we have to make the best of a BT bad job.

Is your 9 dB fixed Rik?

When IDNet got BT to reduce my margin from 15 to 9 dB at the first unscheduled router reboot it went straight back to 15 dB.
I would be fine with the trade off of stability for the speed advantage I would get if the target noise margin would stay at 9 dB or even 12 dB for that matter!

Rik · Mar 07, 2009, 18:27:53

Yes, mine is fixed, Les, but my line is not unstable enough to trigger any raise - on average these days I'll only re-sync every month or so.

LesD · Mar 07, 2009, 18:32:09

Quote from: Rik on Mar 07, 2009, 18:27:53
Yes, mine is fixed, Les,

Can anyones target noise margin on their line be fixed? If so perhaps I should ask support if mine could be set at a fixed value.

Rik · Mar 07, 2009, 18:36:07

It could when I did it, but it's fixed as a minimum - iow, if DLM kicked in, it could be raised, but it won't be lowered back to 6.

LesD · Mar 07, 2009, 18:47:51

Quote from: Rik on Mar 07, 2009, 18:36:07
but it's fixed as a minimum.

Ah I see.

The lowest mine goes is 10 dB from the 15dB in daylight hours. I don't recall a 6 dB since I stopped using my old Netgear router! With that one it was always down from 6 dB in daylight to 0 db in the evenings or below with the negative "hex type numbers" you told me about round this time last year, before I got my 2700HGV. I guess fixed at a minimum is no good to me.

Rik · Mar 07, 2009, 18:49:16

Not a lot. However, if you can ever get back to 12, having it fixed there might be a good move, reasonable speed and reasonable stability.

LesD · Mar 07, 2009, 18:51:50

Quote from: Rik on Mar 07, 2009, 18:49:16
Not a lot. However, if you can ever get back to 12, having it fixed there might be a good move, reasonable speed and reasonable stability.

Yes that's worth thinking about. Thanks.