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Technical News & Discussion => IDNet Help => Topic started by: kinmel on Aug 22, 2008, 16:26:32

Title: BBC iPlayer "upgrade" disadvantages some small ISPs.
Post by: kinmel on Aug 22, 2008, 16:26:32

El Reg (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/22/bbc_cdn_isps_level3/) reports that after the iPlayer HD codec update, the HD content will be delivered via Level3 rather than by Akamai.

While this is all very complex and I barely understand it all, what affect will it have on IDNet as an ISP ?
Title: Re: BBC iPlayer "upgrade" disadvantages some small ISPs.
Post by: Rik on Aug 22, 2008, 16:32:23
As I understand it, Alan, it will cut them out from direct peering, increasing their costs for carrying iPlayer traffic. I may be wrong though.
Title: Re: BBC iPlayer "upgrade" disadvantages some small ISPs.
Post by: vitriol on Aug 22, 2008, 16:49:47
 >:(

Thanks BBC !!!  (http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=1219424101&v=4895450)
Title: Re: BBC iPlayer "upgrade" disadvantages some small ISPs.
Post by: Inactive on Aug 22, 2008, 16:56:38
http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=1219424378&v=4895473

Title: Re: BBC iPlayer "upgrade" disadvantages some small ISPs.
Post by: Rik on Aug 22, 2008, 16:59:20
Showoff.  ;D
Title: Re: BBC iPlayer "upgrade" disadvantages some small ISPs.
Post by: Steve on Aug 22, 2008, 17:01:53
I presume therefore monthly charges to customers will inevitably rise as this cost is passed on. The end result being that small ISPs will become less attractive. It would be nice if a dual arrangement had been made to give ISP's a choice.  BT and Sky will get the HD content etc for free because of their size. It does appear somewhat unfair that this parasite (iplayer) is allowed to breed in this manner
Title: Re: BBC iPlayer "upgrade" disadvantages some small ISPs.
Post by: kinmel on Aug 22, 2008, 17:04:50
Quote from: stevethegas on Aug 22, 2008, 17:01:53
It does appear somewhat unfair that this parasite (iplayer) is allowed to breed in this manner

What annoys me is that my money, "the regressive TV Tax", is being used to put up my costs !  :mad:
Title: Re: BBC iPlayer "upgrade" disadvantages some small ISPs.
Post by: Rik on Aug 22, 2008, 17:05:15
My own choice of pricing model would be to make the iPlayer a separate sub for those who want it, Steve. That seems fairer than a general price hike to subsidise the BBC.
Title: Re: BBC iPlayer "upgrade" disadvantages some small ISPs.
Post by: vitriol on Aug 22, 2008, 17:06:02
My speed is a far cry from what it used to be  :mad:

6966 I think was the best it's been.  Hopefully only a few days left of this Olympic cr*p.

I agree Rik, for those that want the service let them pay extra for it.
Title: Re: BBC iPlayer "upgrade" disadvantages some small ISPs.
Post by: Inactive on Aug 22, 2008, 17:06:30
Quote from: Rik on Aug 22, 2008, 16:59:20
Showoff.  ;D

;D I was only demonstrating that it isn't the same across the network Rik. ;)
Title: Re: BBC iPlayer "upgrade" disadvantages some small ISPs.
Post by: Rik on Aug 22, 2008, 17:07:05
I know, but I daren't post my speeds, people would feel sorry for me. :)
Title: Re: BBC iPlayer "upgrade" disadvantages some small ISPs.
Post by: Inactive on Aug 22, 2008, 17:08:43
Quote from: Rik on Aug 22, 2008, 17:07:05
I know, but I daren't post my speeds, people would feel sorry for me. :)

Awww... :pat: ;D
Title: Re: BBC iPlayer "upgrade" disadvantages some small ISPs.
Post by: Steve on Aug 22, 2008, 17:13:21
Having been keeping an eye on speeds this afternoon,at this time 1700 my speeds are beginning to return towards normal at 500-700kB/sec I have spent a couple of hours at 75-100kB/sec. The worst part of today if it follows the pattern of the previous couple of days is now over
Title: Re: BBC iPlayer "upgrade" disadvantages some small ISPs.
Post by: vitriol on Aug 22, 2008, 17:16:19
No matter what time I test it, it's rubbish.  :mad:

Title: Re: BBC iPlayer "upgrade" disadvantages some small ISPs.
Post by: Rik on Aug 22, 2008, 17:17:17
Quote from: stevethegas on Aug 22, 2008, 17:13:21
Having been keeping an eye on speeds this afternoon,at this time 1700 my speeds are beginning to return towards normal at 500-700kB/sec I have spent a couple of hours at 75-100kB/sec. The worst part of today if it follows the pattern of the previous couple of days is now over

That fits with what I've heard from Spirella Towers, Steve, the demand seems to have peaked and is now falling back - possibly helped by people pushing off for the Bank Holiday weekend.
Title: Re: BBC iPlayer "upgrade" disadvantages some small ISPs.
Post by: Steve on Aug 22, 2008, 17:26:20
Quote from: Rik on Aug 22, 2008, 17:17:17
That fits with what I've heard from Spirella Towers, Steve, the demand seems to have peaked and is now falling back - possibly helped by people pushing off for the Bank Holiday weekend.

I would also say its a bit earlier today than yesterday as it is poets day.
Title: Re: BBC iPlayer "upgrade" disadvantages some small ISPs.
Post by: Rik on Aug 22, 2008, 17:29:00
I remember it well. Nowadays it's more a case of WDOTWII? ;)