New version of the old faithful Netgear DG834G is out its now the DG834 V5, with added buttons for power on and off also wifi on and off, and and Push 'n' Connect for devices that support it so no more entering your SSID and WPA2 codes as long as the device is Push 'n' Connect compatible, and a energy star compliant power supply read the PDF here (http://kbserver.netgear.com/datasheets/dg834gv5_ds_29apr08.pdf)
Very quickly on the tail of the v4, Gary, I wonder why?
Quote from: Rik on Jul 30, 2008, 17:29:52
Very quickly on the tail of the v4, Gary, I wonder why?
I thought that, V4 came out in November ish I think by the looks of it they are trying to appear greener with off switches for wifi and router when not in use, maybe something we will see on more devices as the energy prices of the world rise and we need to conserve, must admit being able to turn the wifi off when I don't need it with a button would be great as well as a normal power switch, note even the boxing is 80% recycled, definitely seems aimed at the greener side of things. As for the V4 that works great so no issue there for me, time will tell what the V5 is like but it will take a good few months to get to the UK. Be nice to see IPV6 implemented for future proofing really, especially as Vista uses it for windows meeting place
Don't they always. :(
Quote from: Rik on Jul 30, 2008, 17:41:30
Don't they always. :(
and the first batch are always loaded with dodgy firmware :(
I am never in a rush. :)
Very interesting. As already said, I wonder why this is being released so soon after the v4. And I wonder if the chipset is the same...
Quote from: Sebby on Jul 30, 2008, 20:09:48
Very interesting. As already said, I wonder why this is being released so soon after the v4. And I wonder if the chipset is the same...
its seven mths afterthe V4 which has proved stable, there is no change in the spec so I wonder, when it arrives in the UK i'll grab one and see what the difference is as far as performance. The DG834G has remained virtually unchanged in years so it could be a overhaul of it, I like as I said the idea of turning wifi off by a button and the new way to connect wifi devices will simplify things for people as home networks become even more prevalent.
So I guess it's more like a facelift to give sales a boost. I'll be interested to hear how it performs. :)
Quote from: Sebby on Jul 30, 2008, 20:43:20
So I guess it's more like a facelift to give sales a boost. I'll be interested to hear how it performs. :)
I reckon 2-3 mths before it gets online here for sale Sebby, maybe longer, they have to shift stocks of V4 first. The same happened from V3 to V4 but I'll keep you posted :thumb: eventually ;D
Quote from: Killhippie on Jul 30, 2008, 17:14:55
with added buttons for power on and off
Eureka, a power on / off switch at last, an essential in my book, not a luxury.
Quote from: Inactive on Jul 31, 2008, 00:30:05
Eureka, a power on / off switch at last, an essential in my book, not a luxury.
It never said it was a luxury, In. For a device that remains on pretty much 24/7 the plug being pulled has worked fine as is the case for many routers, but yes its about time, it is useful :)
I'm much more interested in the wireless on/off button...
I could be tempted by one of these, as it would be interesting to see how the newer versions perform against the 2700.
Well at least you can switch it off if you don't like it... :out:
Quote from: Rik on Jul 31, 2008, 09:56:22
I'm much more interested in the wireless on/off button...
I like that and the push 'n' connect as well
Quote from: Inactive on Jul 31, 2008, 12:28:56
Well at least you can switch it off if you don't like it... :out:
I can not possibly comment, In ;) :out:
Quote from: Simon on Jul 31, 2008, 12:25:46
I could be tempted by one of these, as it would be interesting to see how the newer versions perform against the 2700.
I second that.
Just a question of finding one... :-\
I think that'll probably be quite difficult at the moment! :)
It would seem so. :bawl:
I have a unit which I beta tested for netgear, so if anyone is in the UK and wants to buy it then let me know.
Boxed DG834G v5 with all cables etc
Wingers
Hi Wingers and welcome to the forum. :thumb: :welc: :karma:
NOTE:
This item has now been purchased.
so has anybody used this router yet? what is it like on cr*p lines etc..
does it have QoS? whats the wireless like? etc, etc.
I'm sure all will be revealed soon, Paul. :)
I'm looking for a good router that has qos! my dg834G v3 doesn't have it!
Watch this space. :)
Well when I get it I'll let you know ;D should be Thursday, the v4 has QOS and WDS via an update,
yes it has QoS, worked okay on my line and living out in the country it tends to be a cr*p service and the router seemed to cope fine, wifi I had no issues with although must say I spend most time using a computer which is cabled and not wireless
Well first impressions of performance of v5 is a bit hazy, its faster at recovering from loss of sync (pulled the cable it re synced amazingly fast) the wifi on off button is great and proper QoS you can access is brilliant. Resetting the unit is now by holding down the wifi and wds buttons at the same time on top, so much easier and the off/on is on the back and is a press button setup, but my model still has beta software and has GUI bugs and I experienced a drop of sync speed of 1mb/s which is not great, the model still needs to be placed vertically as it heats up, when a firmware update to release candidate firmware comes online I'll update and post more, I would say with a firmware update the unit would be very promising and much faster than V4 in browsing and dealing in loss of sync events/Dos attacks than present models and with QoS you can edit the priority of, a great piece of kit.
Interesting, thanks, Gary. :thumb:
Thanks for the info Gary, looks promising.
Quote from: Rik on Aug 16, 2008, 09:11:06
Interesting, thanks, Gary. :thumb:
Once Netgear post the firmware online for the release unit I can update and then give a proper review, the unit is much more responsive, but with beta firmware its not really a good test, I think they have gone for a different type of broadcom chipset as well, the information is vastly different as far as what the unit shows, it lists events to minutes and seconds as well, and the firmware codes are vastly different from the V4. In all aspects its more responsive in fact the fastest router I have used to date in dealing with events and initial set-up, just need to have release firmware for a proper test :thumb:
Quote from: Inactive on Aug 16, 2008, 09:15:56
Thanks for the info Gary, looks promising.
Will keep you all posted one I can update :thumb:
Do, thanks Gary. I'd certainly be interested to see how these perform against the 2700. :)
I'm still running on a v1!!!! ;D
If it works, why worry. :)
Quote from: Rik on Aug 16, 2008, 15:11:07
If it works, why worry. :)
Exactly :thumb:
Life's so much simpler if we don't chase the latest and greatest if the current version is doing the job. Take XP, for example. ;D :out:
Quote from: Rik on Aug 16, 2008, 15:16:14
Life's so much simpler if we don't chase the latest and greatest if the current version is doing the job. Take XP, for example. ;D :out:
:lol:
now.... where's my hoobyhammer? ;D
In your hooby toolbox? :angel:
Quote from: Rik on Aug 16, 2008, 15:20:50
In your hooby toolbox? :angel:
Nope - never that neat and tidy me ;D
Quote from: Rik on Aug 16, 2008, 15:16:14
Life's so much simpler if we don't chase the latest and greatest if the current version is doing the job. Take XP, for example. ;D :out:
Id rather not Rik ;) :tongue:
Quote from: Killhippie on Aug 16, 2008, 08:54:50
proper QoS you can access is brilliant
Hi, I wonder if you could elaborate a bit more on the QoS features; I've been looking at the DG834G v5 on the netgear.com web site and the specifications do not mention anything at all about QoS. Would it be possible for you to post a screencap of the configuration screen? Can you confirm if the QoS works for both wired and wireless connections, and have you used it at all yet?
Edit:
Also is it possible to telnet to the v5/use dmt tool to modify the target SNR margin?
Quote from: Rik on Aug 16, 2008, 15:11:07
If it works, why worry. :)
Would not work on Adsl2+ so I would have to change it ;D Im just interested in turning wifi off and the router without pulling plugs or going into settings, but to be honest if the V5 formware does not improve its performance I'm happy with my V4, saying that the new DNG2000 is a n draft router with the same wifi off and on features and power off in the same form as the DG834G but with twin aerials auto update of firmware and improved firewall features, that may be the way to go in the future for me, the test unit I have did not cost much so its fun to play with but not for every day use at this time.
Quote from: orainsear on Aug 17, 2008, 13:24:06
Hi, I wonder if you could elaborate a bit more on the QoS features; I've been looking at the DG834G v5 on the netgear.com web site and the specifications do not mention anything at all about QoS. Would it be possible for you to post a screencap of the configuration screen? Can you confirm if the QoS works for both wired and wireless connections, and have you used it at all yet?
Cant post a screen shot as its not being used at this time if you don't believe me you could try googling and get the info that way, all netgears DG834G's after V3 with the latest updates have QoS they are just hidden so you cannot edit the feature unless you telnet in on the V4 and GT, the v5 has this as a separate and configurable feature, when I used it, it worked fine it had options for all the major games and programs and you can edit and delete as you want and assign priority. ;D
"Added support for Wi-Fi Protected Access Version 2 (WPA2) which supports either AES or TKIP encryption types. WPA2 is now the most secure security option available and should be used if your equipment supports it. The various security options can be selected on the Wireless Settings page under Security Options.
Added support for Wi-Fi Multimedia Quality of Service (WMM QoS) to prioritize wireless voice and video traffic. WMM QoS is a feature that provides prioritization of wireless data packets from different applications based on four access categories: voice, video, best effort, and background. For an application to receive the benefits of WMM QoS, both it and the client running that application must be WMM-enabled. Legacy applications that do not support WMM, and applications that do not require QoS, are assigned to the best-effort category, which receives a lower priority than voice and video. WMM QoS is enabled automatically"
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/archive/index.php/t-63277.html
:welc: orainsear, and have a welcome Karma. I'm sure what Gary (Killhippie) says is correct, and there will be a lot more chat about these when they become more widely available. We may even have a dedicated board for it, on a temporary basis, if there's enough interest. :)
Thanks. I don't doubt what's being said, I'm just wondering if it's at all like the QoS implementation in the WNR2000 (WNR2000 user guide (http://ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/WNR2000_UM_12Jun08.pdf)). Although it's not an ADSL router the QoS sounds similar to that described for the DG834G v5. Hopefully it will make it's way into the DGN2000 firmware.
Quote from: orainsear on Aug 17, 2008, 21:46:49
Thanks. I don't doubt what's being said, I'm just wondering if it's at all like the QoS implementation in the WNR2000 (WNR2000 user guide (http://ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/WNR2000_UM_12Jun08.pdf)). Although it's not an ADSL router the QoS sounds similar to that described for the DG834G v5. Hopefully it will make it's way into the DGN2000 firmware.
Has the WNR2000 not got a separate setting for editing QoS? Since its such a new router I would have thought it may, if not I wonder why there is such inconsistency across products sometimes, check the DGN2000 out I think that has the seperate setting as well
Quote from: Killhippie on Aug 18, 2008, 09:16:13
Has the WNR2000 not got a separate setting for editing QoS? Since its such a new router I would have thought it may, if not I wonder why there is such inconsistency across products sometimes, check the DGN2000 out I think that has the seperate setting as well
Sorry I've got the router that I was thinking about completely wrong - it's actually the Netgear WNR3500 and not the WNR2000 that features QoS. If you look at section 5-14 of the user guide ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/WNR3500_UM_11Mar08.pdf (ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/WNR3500_UM_11Mar08.pdf) there is more information and some pictures of the configuration.
I'm not sure if the DGN2000 does have QoS (nothing in the netgear.com user guide, but then there is nothing in the DG834Gv5 user guide either). It's now on sale in the U.K. so if anyone has got one and is reading this please feel free to comment :)
Just found out the DG834Gv5 has a Conexant CX94610 chipset, so if you want Broadcom best avoid this one :(
Been at it with the Brummie Screwdriver, have you? ;D
Quote from: Rik on Sep 02, 2008, 09:01:27
Been at it with the Brummie Screwdriver, have you? ;D
looks like its the chipset for all new Netgears so the V4 and the DG834N are the last with decent chipsets in them Rik :( the new model chipsets are cheaper it appears, and yes I had to have a peek but with a more delicate approach ;D
A real screwdriver or a smaller hammer? ;)
Quote from: Rik on Sep 02, 2008, 09:09:03
A real screwdriver or a smaller hammer? ;)
:rofl: a real screwdriver Rik, I have a decent pc tool kit, but a big hammer for that satisfying moment of destruction >:D
Quote from: Gary on Sep 02, 2008, 09:08:04
looks like its the chipset for all new Netgears so the V4 and the DG834N are the last with decent chipsets in them Rik :( the new model chipsets are cheaper it appears, and yes I had to have a peek but with a more delicate approach ;D
As far as I am aware the DGN2000 is a reboxed DG834N and still uses the broadcom chipset
Quote from: Gary on Sep 02, 2008, 09:08:04
looks like its the chipset for all new Netgears so the V4 and the DG834N are the last with decent chipsets in them Rik :( the new model chipsets are cheaper it appears, and yes I had to have a peek but with a more delicate approach ;D
How do you know there's anything wrong with that chipset, Gary?
Quote from: Sebby on Sep 02, 2008, 22:09:06
How do you know there's anything wrong with that chipset, Gary?
Its not nearly as good as the broadcom chipset feature wise Sebby and is not so compatible with certain dslams, Broadcom chipsets are more expensive (research found online) and Netgear are offering more features but cutting down on costs by letting other OEM's make the chipsets, the DGN2000 uses the same setup and I tried that out, instant drop on upstream by 300kbs and a drop on Downstream by nearly 1mb on LLU here, it does not hold onto long lines as well and reports line length way longer than it is, cost cutting at the expense of stability it seems its been discussed a lot on the Be forums :( The V4 is a better model and the DG834N as well, I noticed they have put out a new DG834Nv2 with more fancy features, so it may well be a change of chipset on that as well
Has that been proven? I thought the AR7 was the only chipset that is known to avoid.
It's the one I avoid - though I do have a couple of Netgears in the cupboard as reserves number 2 & 3. However, the difference on the line compared to a 2700 is plain crazy. :)
Quote from: Sebby on Sep 03, 2008, 19:06:01
Has that been proven? I thought the AR7 was the only chipset that is known to avoid.
Put it this way Sebby all new Netgear routers now only have a 1 year guarantee as well. The newer chipset allows Netgear to offer more features at the same price, you never get something for nothing. The difference in performance with the new chipset on the v5 is worse than the AR7 speed wise I have all three to test, from the DG834N chipset which is a more refined broadcom chipset than on v4 of the G model to the v3 AR7, all sync higher than the v5 I have, and remain that way for longer. here is a quote from a Netgear Forum.
"Netgear are just constantly on the look out for saving a bit of cash, so when an OEM can offer them a different board for a few pence less they go for it regardless of what that means to the customer. The OEM probably agrees to take on the firmware development to make it run in order to clinch the sale. (The Conexant will run the same Linux based firmware and would just require changes to the bundled drivers etc so not a major undertaking.)
The other problem with a new version is it means firmware development as good as stops on prior versions. It might not be important if the prior models run without bugs however Broadcom are continually adding new features to their modem drivers that mean the older versions fall behind in functionality"
Quote from: stevethegas on Sep 02, 2008, 18:43:56
As far as I am aware the DGN2000 is a reboxed DG834N and still uses the broadcom chipset
No it does not have the same feature set as the DG834N and does not support IGMPv2 or Annex M for ADSL2+ and does not use the marvel topdog wireless chipset either, like the other new netgears it is based on the Conexant CX94610 chipset which is seen by the code for the adsl driver compared with the Broadcom chipset drivers as far as I know. It also lacks support for Link Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) which is a licensed data link layer protocol for network topology discovery and quality of service diagnostics, developed by Microsoft as part of their Windows Rally set of technologies. The LLTD protocol operates over both wired as well as wireless networks. Also Netgear have released a DG843N v2.
All I'm saying, Gary, is that I think we need to gauge some more thoughts on that particular chipset. We all know that every line is different. It may well turn out to be a bit of a lemon like the AR7, but I think it's too early to say at the moment.
Thanks Gary.Re DGN2000 chipset. I did wonder when I read somewhere that it was a re boxed DG834N. The price didn't make sense to me, as if its the same inside it should be a similar price not cheaper.
Quote from: stevethegas on Sep 04, 2008, 07:39:27
Thanks Gary.Re DGN2000 chipset. I did wonder when I read somewhere that it was a re boxed DG834N. The price didn't make sense to me, as if its the same inside it should be a similar price not cheaper.
I saw the same article, having tried one its similar to the v5 but N draft, I'm using a DG834N myself now and will avoid the v2 of that for the same reason, a loss of a years warranty and new features for the same price all add up to something good being taken away :(
Gary I also use the Dg834N and wondered if you have any experience of the laptop adaptor WN5111B? I have the WN111 available but don't find it ideal for my laptop use. I worry that one or the other will get broken.
I have plugged the WN5111B into Justina's laptop and found it pretty robust, Justina tends to bang her laptop around, she did last night when she put it away, it seems strong enough. What firmware are you running? The last update to 1.02.8 in April added loads of good features :thumb:
Using the same firmware, thanks for the info regarding the adaptor I may see if I can locate one although "g" performance seems very good
Quote from: Sebby on Sep 03, 2008, 19:06:01
Has that been proven? I thought the AR7 was the only chipset that is known to avoid.
The AR7 chipset by Texas Instruments (Infineon bought the DSL Section) is not to be avoidde in the Netgears, far from it in my opinion if, if you are on a long line. The Broadcom chipset can be very conservative and sometimes more trouble than not.
The new version 5 being the conexant will need to be tested before we all jump on the wagon and say 'Booo Hiisss Booo'... this would not be fair to the manufacturer nor other users of the forum. :eyebrow:
Welcome to the forum, Az. :welc: :karma:
Taa Rik. Its nice to be able to read some honest opinions. :whistle:
You'll get plenty of opinions here. ;)
Welcome! :karma:
I don't think the points about the AR7 chipset are unfair, but I agree we can't say much about the v5 at this stage. :)
Quote from: Azzaka on Sep 25, 2008, 14:41:49
The AR7 chipset by Texas Instruments (Infineon bought the DSL Section) is not to be avoidde in the Netgears, far from it in my opinion if, if you are on a long line. The Broadcom chipset can be very conservative and sometimes more trouble than not.
The new version 5 being the conexant will need to be tested before we all jump on the wagon and say 'Booo Hiisss Booo'... this would not be fair to the manufacturer nor other users of the forum. :eyebrow:
Having got one (v5) I would say the Broadcom really does outperform the conexant which provides worse sync rates and more line drops the Broadcom is used in many DSLAM's for LLU as well and is far from conservative, if anything the new chipset is, as far as saying the Broadcom is more trouble, I would not agree with you at all on that at all. I have had 2 months to play with the new chipset of there abouts and its now in its box and to be honest is now a potential door wedge ;D so which company do you work for Netgear? ;) to add a figure the v5 syncs at about 4340 where as the Broadcom suncs at 5597 downstream, upstream a difference of 1187 for broadcom and 1107 for the V5
Welcome by the way :karma:
Quote from: Azzaka on Sep 25, 2008, 15:20:22
Taa Rik. Its nice to be able to read some honest opinions. :whistle:
:welc: Azzaka.....be very careful with Rik he will spend your money faster than you can post ;D...my opinion is worth ....well nothing really but welcome to the forum ;D ;D :sanity: :karma:
Quote from: Gary on Sep 25, 2008, 15:33:44
Having got one (v5) I would say the Broadcom really does outperform the conexant which provides worse sync rates and more line drops the Broadcom is used in many DSLAM's for LLU as well and is far from conservative, if anything the new chipset is, as far as saying the Broadcom is more trouble, I would not agree with you at all on that at all. I have had 2 months to play with the new chipset of there abouts and its now in its box and to be honest is now a potential door wedge ;D so which company do you work for Netgear? ;) to add a figure the v5 syncs at about 4340 where as the Broadcom suncs at 5597 downstream, upstream a difference of 1187 for broadcom and 1107 for the V5
Welcome by the way :karma:
It's possible the sync rate may improve with firmware updates.
Who is the manufacturer of the DSLAM that you have been testing the v5 with by the way?
Quote from: orainsear on Sep 29, 2008, 21:10:13
It's possible the sync rate may improve with firmware updates.
Who is the manufacturer of the DSLAM that you have been testing the v5 with by the way?
Broadcom are the manufacturer, the other thing that concerns me orainsear is the sudden drop in warranty from two years to one, you would not buy a car that had a one year warranty, now netgear are dropping this on the new chipsets it makes you wonder about the product, also the V4 synced higher than the V5 with its initial firmware, adsl driver updates may help but even the AR7 in my version 3 gets a higher sync rate at this time ???
TBH, Gary, warranties don't bother me as legislation overrides them.
Quote from: Rik on Sep 30, 2008, 11:22:27
TBH, Gary, warranties don't bother me as legislation overrides them.
True, but when a company drops from 2 years to one year you have to wonder why? Also the broadcom chipsets have new features added to them which manufacturers have to pay to keep in place like a licensing system so using a cheaper company would make financial sense when you make millions of products and updating features in current chipsets gets too costly
They probably cut the warranty to please the bean counters. ;)
Quote from: Rik on Sep 30, 2008, 11:33:48
They probably cut the warranty to please the bean counters. ;)
Always the way, but dealing with Indian support with less beans would not be fun ;D Also the V5 and many new routers have an autoupdate feature for firmware which I'm not keen on either, and as the V5 I have stands and it may of course be faulty, a firmware update would have to be something special to recover the sync rate I have right now with it compared to the DG834N
Quote from: Gary on Sep 30, 2008, 11:21:14
Broadcom are the manufacturer, the other thing that concerns me orainsear is the sudden drop in warranty from two years to one, you would not buy a car that had a one year warranty, now netgear are dropping this on the new chipsets it makes you wonder about the product, also the V4 synced higher than the V5 with its initial firmware, adsl driver updates may help but even the AR7 in my version 3 gets a higher sync rate at this time ???
According to netgear.com (http://www.netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/WirelessGRouters/DG834G.aspx?detail=Specifications) the 1 year warranty is for North America, 2 year warranty for the rest of the world so it might not be all bad! I'm not sure why there is a difference between N.A. and the rest of the world though ???
Lower levels of consumer legislation, perhaps?
Sounds like it, Rik.
Quote from: orainsear on Sep 30, 2008, 17:46:35
According to netgear.com (http://www.netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/WirelessGRouters/DG834G.aspx?detail=Specifications) the 1 year warranty is for North America, 2 year warranty for the rest of the world so it might not be all bad! I'm not sure why there is a difference between N.A. and the rest of the world though ???
The new Netgears are being sold with one year warranty in the UK orainsear not two, as this link to the new DGN2000 shows, http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?ProductID=7255
Quote from: Gary on Oct 01, 2008, 07:41:57
The new Netgears are being sold with one year warranty in the UK orainsear not two, as this link to the new DGN2000 shows, http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?ProductID=7255
I think that may be an oversight by broadbandbuyer. It appears that they have lifted the specification directly from the Netgear.com (http://www.netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/WirelessNRoutersandGateways/DGN2000.aspx?detail=Specifications) website, and it does indeed only mention a 1 year warranty (no mention of international warranty).
The specifications for the DGN2000 on the Netgear.co.uk (http://netgear.co.uk/dgn2000.php) website state a 2 year warranty (the pdf datasheet says 1 year but it's identical to the Netgear.com one)
Of course this could well be incorrect so an email to Netgear.co.uk would (probably) clear things up.
Quote from: orainsear on Oct 01, 2008, 11:35:39
Of course this could well be incorrect so an email to Netgear.co.uk would (probably) clear things up.
You've obviously never emailed Netgear support! ;) :out:
:rofl:
Oh yes I have. ;)
Quote from: Rik on Oct 01, 2008, 15:27:05
:rofl:
I wont be trying it again myself ;D
Quote from: Sebby on Oct 01, 2008, 15:03:13
You've obviously never emailed Netgear support! ;) :out:
I did phone support once but the Indian sounding chap I spoke to didn't have a clue what I was talking about.
I'd have thought it would be U.K. sales that would be the folk to speak to? Or are they based abroad too? :-\
Quote from: orainsear on Oct 01, 2008, 20:41:26
I did phone support once but the Indian sounding chap I spoke to didn't have a clue what I was talking about.
He probably thought it was something to do with coarse fishing equipent :D
Quote from: orainsear on Oct 01, 2008, 20:41:26
I'd have thought it would be U.K. sales that would be the folk to speak to? Or are they based abroad too? :-\
I'm not sure. I just know that they take months to reply if you email them, and they don't have a clue what they're talking about (so they just send a load of generic information not related to the issue). :)
Proforma emails. ::)
On the DG834G V5. Netgear has the bad habit of NOT publishing their version numbers on the outside of packaging so you don't know which version you're buying. I have no experience with Netgear routers yet. I am looking forward to buying one (V5) in Canada, but looking at online seller's websites, it doesn't look like it has hit the Canadian market yet. Buying directly from Netgear isn't possible either, as you have to choose one State (among 52) on the ordering form, and I don't live in the USA. It's now been some 21 days since the last post on this site/thread. So what's going on ? Is V5 still under beta testing ? Has Netgear officially launched the product ?
Hi and welcome to the forum. :welc: :karma:
We don't seem to know, unfortunately. :(
It certainly doesn't seem to be available in the UK, or at least not widely available.