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Title: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: mrapoc on Jul 04, 2008, 21:01:07
Anyone got one/tried one?

Ive been suffering from back problems for around 2 years or so now (not good at 16!!) and i doubt my current chair helps matters. I know fixing it will take a while and numerous different aspects..but...do these chairs actually help posture, feel comfy and stretch all the right muscles?

I would like to try one, but im a bit sceptical to whether it will help or make it worse!

cheers
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Danni on Jul 04, 2008, 21:03:29
I've heard they make things worse.
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: LesD on Jul 04, 2008, 21:06:42
Not that I know anything about their virtues or otherwise but you can read all about them here:

http://www.backinaction.co.uk/kneeling
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: mrapoc on Jul 04, 2008, 21:09:16
they just seem a hell of a lot cheaper than other orthopaedic/ergonomic chairs on the market and they sound good in theory.

need to get rid of this "standard" office chair without spending too much of my (parent's) money  :whistle: >:D
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: drummer on Jul 04, 2008, 22:02:19
A friend of mine has severe back problems and as a Flash/Java programmer, he has to sit in front of a computer for hours on end to earn a living.  Luckily for him, he earns oodles of wonga and was able to "test drive" loads of different types of ergonomic/posture chairs at home for a week at a time.

The good news for him is that he found one that's perfect, the bad news for everyone else is that the cheapest chair he tried cost £2,500!

BTW, I bought the cheapest chair from the range in Les's link some years ago and to be honest, sitting on a wooden crate would've been preferable.
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: mrapoc on Jul 04, 2008, 22:10:16
ahhhh nicht so gut then

i really am at a loss lol

any recommendations on sub £200 chairs?  :-\
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Simon on Jul 04, 2008, 22:18:46
It's all to do with posture, Sam.  Try to sit more upright in the chair, and don't slouch.  Perhaps a cushion might help, or simply raise the back of the chair, if it's adjustable.  A couple of places which might be worth looking at are http://www.staples.co.uk and http://www.viking-direct.co.uk.  :)
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Sebby on Jul 04, 2008, 22:18:56
My mum started to suffer from the same thing, and was told her setup at the computer was all wrong; wrong chair, screen to low, arms at the wrong height, keyboard too wide, and so on. You can get someone round to assess you and give recommendations.

She got one of these (http://www.rhchairs.co.uk/web/uk.aspx) chairs (recommended to her). They don't come cheap, but they are supposedly the best around.
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: LesD on Jul 04, 2008, 22:19:29
Quote from: mrapoc on Jul 04, 2008, 22:10:16
any recommendations on sub £200 chairs?  :-\


Any number here at Argos sub £100 (Just thinking of Mum & Dad's pocket)  ;)


http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Browse/ID69/9555814/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7COffice,+PC+and+phones%7C9555804/c_2/2%7Ccat_9555804%7COffice+furniture%7C9555805/c_3/3%7Ccat_9555805%7COffice+chairs%7C9555814.htm
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: mrapoc on Jul 04, 2008, 22:57:55
I have my eye on a herman miller mirra on ebay atm

urggg - best to go drag mum round some office furniture stores soon  :shake:

ill hav a look at ur suggestions

thanks guys
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Steve on Jul 05, 2008, 08:46:43
The key to anyone with a bad back and computer use besides get the chair and the rest of the ergonomics right is to limit the time you are sitting continuously and take a break,walk round do their core exercises or what ever. As a sufferer for many years it what you do when your not sitting thats most important in terms of improving back fitness.
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Rik on Jul 05, 2008, 08:52:30
Good point, Steve - from once who spends 3-4 hours in front of the screen at a time.
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: merlin on Jul 05, 2008, 09:24:18
the Victorians had the real answer, a good old fashioned straight back wooden chair, with a small cushion to sit on ,

when teacher used to slap the back of my head and say "sit up straight" she was sooooooooo right

as a modern addition, a small towel folded up and placed in the small of the back, also helps

sitting up straight takes some practice, but worth the effort.
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Sebby on Jul 05, 2008, 09:54:53
We could learn a lot from what used to be done (says me as I sit at my desk slouching!). :)
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Simon on Jul 05, 2008, 12:51:34
My longest unbroken stretch was 13 hours - and when I did finally leave the desk, my left arm was completely numb, and I thought I was going to have a stroke!!  I now at least get up and walk to the kitchen every half hour or so - but usually return with something to eat or drink!   :blush:
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Sebby on Jul 05, 2008, 13:10:22
We're all guilty of that. ;)
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Rik on Jul 05, 2008, 13:14:11
I'll tell you, these diuretics get me moving quite often! ;D
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Simon on Jul 05, 2008, 13:18:19
:tmi:
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Rik on Jul 05, 2008, 13:38:39
 :rofl:
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Gary on Jul 05, 2008, 13:52:15
Quote from: Rik on Jul 05, 2008, 13:14:11
I'll tell you, these diuretics get me moving quite often! ;D
I'm on them to, alas I move slowly :eek4: but I really need a good chair as I cannot sit at the pc for say more than an hour without being in again and that's on 75mg of Morphine so any suggestions would be a blessing about chairs, my back is getting worse and this is my social life and escape :(
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Glenn on Jul 06, 2008, 01:10:30
Sam, would this be any good for you? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MODERN-HIGH-BACK-EXECUTIVE-MESH-OFFICE-CHAIR-IN-SILVER_W0QQitemZ110266113874QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item110266113874&_trkparms=72%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C65%3A12&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: psp83 on Jul 06, 2008, 01:28:38
I too suffer from back problems, Its an old rugby injury (bad tackle by the other team player). So i have to put up with back pain everyday and taking pain killers no longer work.. Also i'm a web developer so i sit at desks for hours on end.. sometimes 15-17hrs a day :(

So finding the right chair/desk was important for me.

I bought a chair from argos, it was only £85 and the back is different from normal chairs. its the shape your back is meant to be when sat down and forces you to sit proper.

I cant remember what it was called or if argos still do them but you dont have to spend alot to get something that helps you out. Go to a place like PC world, some of the bigger ones have chairs on display, ask them if you can sit in a few and get the one you feel comfy in.

If you go for a chair like mine, it takes a while to get used to it and feels weird on your back for the first month.
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Danni on Jul 06, 2008, 12:18:20
I need to buy a new chair as I managed to break mine badly yesterday. I don't have much money to spend on one, but my main problem is I have terrible posture (sitting properly tires me out really quickly).

I'll be looking at Argos and Staples today (of course, my other problem is when I get into something on the computer I don't move for 12 hours...).
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Sebby on Jul 06, 2008, 12:20:31
Only 12 hours, Danni? I'd happily sit here for 18! ;)

Good luck with the chair hunting. :)
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Danni on Jul 06, 2008, 12:33:07
I can be at my computer for longer than that, but normally I get up occasionally to get drinks and things.

When I'm that focused then nothing else exists :P
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: mrapoc on Jul 06, 2008, 19:39:40
so we have a collection of people looking for new chairs? lol

i went to staples today..and well they were all geared towards style (i dont think any even had adjustable backs  :thumbd:)  i also visited some furniture stores...£200 for a seat that the back doesnt even adjust with??? no thanks...

currys and dixons had...3 between them and they werent  that inspiring..

looks like viking direct or similiar might be the best bet

as for glenns link...that doesnt look half bad :)
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: LesD on Jul 06, 2008, 20:34:22
I bought one of these last Christmas for myself:

http://www.amazon.co.uk:80/Vantage-operator-adjustable-charcoal-upholstery/dp/B000SA6QFU/ref=pd_sbs_ce_shvl_title_4/026-7840974-0113244

I did not post this link earlier because they messed up on the delivery but that was more the courier's fault I guess than the supplier.

The chair is OK with adjustable everything but its one failing is that however tight I screwed the clamp that held the back at the height I wanted it, slowly but surely it would work its way down.

Well not wanting the hassle of trying to find another one and the fun and games of getting this one returned with the use of my power drill and a bolt the back is now permanently set at the height I like it to be at. If you follow the link you will see there are others to choose from but as as been said already there is going to be no better way to pick the right one for you than to go somewhere where you can sit in one and try it.
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: mrapoc on Jul 06, 2008, 20:50:02
http://www.viking-direct.co.uk/a%2Fconsumer%2FTopstar-Eiger-Synchro-Mechanism-Operators-Chair-Black/_TP0602-BK_H27_p.htm

initial thoughts? it says for intensive use so perhaps its up to the idnetter lifestyle?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Den on Jul 06, 2008, 21:48:17
While I agree that the correct chair will make a diference I would sugest consulting a good Chiropractic as correcting your posture is what they do best. When I was suffering from back pain caused by wear on my hips I consulted a chiropractic and could not believe the diference she made to my quality of life.  ;D
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: mrapoc on Jul 06, 2008, 22:00:42
iv emailed around a few specialised back care chair specialists.

looks like ill be spending (parents wil be spending  >:D) at least £100

iv come to the conclusion the chair will definately have to be orthopaedic
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Sebby on Jul 07, 2008, 00:11:30
Seriously, you need an RH (http://www.rhchairs.co.uk/web/uk.aspx). ;)
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: LesD on Jul 07, 2008, 20:12:09
Quote from: Sebby on Jul 07, 2008, 00:11:30
Seriously, you need an RH (http://www.rhchairs.co.uk/web/uk.aspx). ;)
I was thinking more along the lines of a PR!  ;)
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A Paper Round to help Mum out with the cost of this new chair!  ;D
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: mrapoc on Jul 08, 2008, 00:30:21
hoho

been there and done that for 2 years

i now work 2 days a week at two different part time jobs (one £6/hour the other £4.50 iirc)

going to be gettin a recommendation off a company soon based on height build etc.
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Tacitus on Jul 08, 2008, 07:32:16
Quote from: Sebby on Jul 07, 2008, 00:11:30
Seriously, you need an RH (http://www.rhchairs.co.uk/web/uk.aspx). ;)

They look good Seb but I notice they're a bit quiet on prices, which suggests they are seriously expensive.  The one my chiropractor suggested was around £850.
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Dangerjunkie on Jul 08, 2008, 08:08:50
I think RH come in at about £800-£1000 (armrests and head rest extra.) The fabric covers do come off for washing (unlike most chairs) so you should be able to change them to prolong the chair's life.

If I understand right they don't sell to he public only to dealers which I think is why there are no prices on their site. If you google for the model name you want you should find a dealer.

Cheers,
Paul.
Title: Re: Those kneeling chairs..
Post by: Tacitus on Jul 08, 2008, 08:55:47
Quote from: Dangerjunkie on Jul 08, 2008, 08:08:50
If you google for the model name you want you should find a dealer.

Thanks Paul.  I did just that and found this place in Bakewell, Derbyshire.

http://www.shape-seating.com/about.htm

Their prices, whilst hardly cheap, don't look as outrageous as some I've seen!