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Title: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: merlin on May 24, 2008, 23:08:00
i have an external backup drive,and added a few programs to it this afternoon, running xp btw.
then i wanted to burn a disc , but the dvd rw drive would not work.
checked my computer dvd rw not there
checked bios ,yes its there
checked device manager, yes its there but with a red cross, clicking on it takes me to a page which says , this device is disabled click here to enable, but when i do it says windows cannot enable this device
when i connected the external drive it came up with its correct drive letter , so windows must know the drive is there, otherwise the letter would have changed

removed external drive, restarted computer (full shut down) but drive still as above

the draw opens and shuts as normal so i guess power is ok
anyone got any ideas, please ???? ???
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Sebby on May 24, 2008, 23:32:24
When I read it had a red cross, I thought it must be disabled, but then you said it can't be enabled...

What I'd suggest is right-clicking on it in Device Manager and choosing Uninstall, then unplug it and plug back in again. Hopefully Windows will reinstall it and it will work.
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: kinmel on May 25, 2008, 09:30:05
Have a look here (http://www.cdrom-guide.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284994)
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Rik on May 25, 2008, 09:30:25
Does this help, Bob?


If DVD/CDs become 'lost', code 39 error "Windows cannot load the driver. The driver may be missing or corrupted (Code 39)".

Go to Device Manager, uninstall CD & DVD drivers. Uninstall Primary and Secondary IDE channels under IDE/ATAPI Controllers - ignore requests to re-boot machine.

Go to Regedit, navigate to key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E965-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}

Look for the key which refers to DVD/CD-ROM drives. Delete the subkey UpperFilters, also LowerFilters if it is present.

Re-boot the machine. All should now be well.

Or what Alan posted., :)
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Steve on May 25, 2008, 09:58:56
There is a vbs script at kelly's fixes, last one in the right hand column

http://http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm (http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm)

Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: merlin on May 25, 2008, 12:39:49
thanks SEBBY,KINMEL,STEVETHEGAS, and RIK.

its remarkable each of you were saying the same thing ,but in your own words, anyway i did it and all is working ok

what i do,nt understand is WHY i lost it in the first place, or is that one of those "thats how life is with windows " things

idnetters to the rescue again !!!
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Sebby on May 25, 2008, 12:45:33
As you say, it's one of those things that happens for no apparent reason. :)
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Inactive on May 25, 2008, 12:47:58
Part of the great Gates Mystery Systems.. glad you are sorted merlin.

:thumb:
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Rik on May 25, 2008, 13:39:46
I never found out why it happened, Bob, just that it did and all the normal tricks failed. One this I did note was that Nero was implicated in the registry changes.
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: merlin on May 25, 2008, 18:11:06
rik ,can't be nero i do'nt use it , could'nt get on with it.

think we ought to invent a name for these mysteries of windows ,which appear to have no explanation , maybe gateisms, or winphuts , or just plain bl**dy mysterys
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Rik on May 25, 2008, 18:16:27
 ;D

Did you ever install Nero on the machine though, Bob. I found it left traces which caused the problem, but it seems a larger issue - a Gatesism is probably a good term for it.
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: merlin on May 25, 2008, 18:36:55
rik i did once have it ,but i have done several , formats and clean installs since then so i think its safe to say nero has gone .

but i think  NOREEN has just given the answer on another thread , its the one about acronis ti ver 11, which has some problems.

apparently if you do a restore using acronis v11 , it can stop you using windows systen restore. and mess up the "safely remove hardware icon/system " which results in the loss of drive/s

i had just done a system restore from acronis v11 ,and used "safely remove". and lost a drive

thanks NOREEN you've solved the problem.

the question now is ,is there a patch for this ? i,m off to the acronis web site   
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Noreen on May 25, 2008, 18:40:13
 :stars: Merlin, have a read or a search through here if you haven't found the answer, might be there. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/forumdisplay.php?s=81b1bcbd8a3a964cab35c06390cc924a&f=65
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Rik on May 25, 2008, 18:55:16
Acronis 11 again. :sigh: It does not inspire confidence in the company. :(
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Steve on May 25, 2008, 19:01:43
But v10 seems ok in not messing up system restore, although it does have other issues in vista which may involve using a repair disc following a restore to certain disc configurations :)
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Rik on May 25, 2008, 19:05:13
I'm becoming seriously concerned that Acronis have lost the plot, Steve. A piece of software like True Image needs to be 100% certain, something they seem to have lost sight of. :(
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Sebby on May 25, 2008, 19:23:31
It really does, Rik. A program like this needs to work with no exceptions.
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Steve on May 25, 2008, 19:38:08
Perhaps the've decided to give vista a miss as well. Darn it, after my recent success, any issues with v10 and XP sp3 I wonder? :-[
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Rik on May 26, 2008, 10:18:12
You may be the first to know. ;)
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Noreen on May 26, 2008, 10:36:10
Quote from: stevethegas on May 25, 2008, 19:01:43
But v10 seems ok in not messing up system restore, although it does have other issues in vista which may involve using a repair disc following a restore to certain disc configurations :)
I understand that the v10 and Vista problem involving the use of a repair disc may be for those who don't make full image backups (it was discussed here some time ago). I always make full image backups so hopefully won't be affected but a kindly IDNetter made me a repair disc as I didn't have one, just in case of problems. I believe that this particular problem was actually dealt with in v11 but I'm still not changing. ;D
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Noreen on May 26, 2008, 11:39:15
Quote from: stevethegas on May 25, 2008, 19:38:08
Perhaps the've decided to give vista a miss as well. Darn it, after my recent success, any issues with v10 and XP sp3 I wonder? :-[
This person MAY have one. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=209771
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Rik on May 26, 2008, 11:45:43
Here we go again. :(
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Steve on May 26, 2008, 11:55:25
Looks like I need to check this out fairly soon,thanks Noreen :(
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Dangerjunkie on May 27, 2008, 16:39:25
Did anyone put one of those Sony "Rootkit" music (or any other big name copy-protected) CDs in the computer? I remember reading that if you try to remove one of those it broke the CD driver and your drive vanished.

Cheers,
Paul.
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Rik on May 27, 2008, 16:40:45
I thought they only shipped in the States?
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Dangerjunkie on May 27, 2008, 16:52:42
IIRC some did make it over here.

I thought I'd offer it as a suggestion as there are a number of these systems out there and IMHO they're just asking to break stuff as Windows moved on.

Cheers,
Paul.
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Rik on May 27, 2008, 16:56:49
Fair comment, Paul. :)
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: madasahatter on May 27, 2008, 17:07:56
Quote from: Dangerjunkie on May 27, 2008, 16:39:25
Did anyone put one of those Sony "Rootkit" music (or any other big name copy-protected) CDs in the computer? I remember reading that if you try to remove one of those it broke the CD driver and your drive vanished.

Cheers,
Paul.

Could this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Copy_Protection) be the article you were referring to?
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Rik on May 27, 2008, 17:15:45
 :thumb:

I like the quote from Sony. People don't know any better so they won't care. He didn't phrase it quite like that, of course.
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: madasahatter on May 27, 2008, 17:17:26
Quote from: Rik on May 27, 2008, 17:15:45
He didn't phrase it quite like that, of course.

No, but that was what he was saying  ;)
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Inactive on May 28, 2008, 00:22:49
Since when, I have had a dislike for Sony and their products, I was one of their greatest fans prior to this.
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Rik on May 28, 2008, 09:55:35
Me too, In. :(
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Inactive on May 28, 2008, 09:57:30
Great minds..  ;)
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Dangerjunkie on May 28, 2008, 18:25:05
Yep... I used to be 100% Sony but I won't have their stuff in the house now. Not since one of their senior execs promised to stamp out media copying by firewalling it at your PC and ISP... and so on.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/08/23/we_will_block_napster/

Since that day on 2000 I have not willingly bought a single Sony product.

I try to avoid Sony product professionally too. My cameras are all Cannon now and I've been buying Panasonic display panels at work. People at work also ask me which laptops they should buy and the answer always includes the words "whatever you do, don't buy Sony."

I must have boycotted tens of thousands of pounds of their stuff so far.

Cheers,
Paul.
Title: Re: missing dvd rw drive
Post by: Rik on May 28, 2008, 18:29:11
I've heard that Vaios should be avoided anyway, Paul.