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Title: AntiPhormLite
Post by: kinmel on May 16, 2008, 15:53:06
The war against Phorm is stepping up a gear -  AntiPhormLite (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/16/antiphormlite/)

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Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: Lance on May 16, 2008, 16:08:40
Looks interesting!

It's good to know though, that being with IDNet we're not going to be caught by phorm anyway. :)
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: Rik on May 16, 2008, 16:09:08
Nice one, I look forward to seeing Phorm debris around the place. :)
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: Sebby on May 16, 2008, 18:00:55
Ditto. That'll really get on their nerves. ;D
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: Rik on May 16, 2008, 18:09:10
And, hopefully, their profits.  >:D
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: Sebby on May 16, 2008, 18:17:22
That, or increase their losses. >:D
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: Noreen on May 16, 2008, 18:18:17
Did you read the Update at the end of that link?
QuoteUpdate
The app went live on Thursday afternoon. There is no physical address and phone number on the AntiPhorm site, prompting a bit of concern about the provenance of the app in a thread on the BadPhorm forum. One poster complained that it generated multiple tabs in a browser window.

Commentors elsewhere suggest switching to a Phorm-fee ISP is a better approach than applying a as yet-unproven application.
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: Rik on May 16, 2008, 18:24:58
Such as IDNet. :)
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: Noreen on May 16, 2008, 18:35:40
They are getting in a state about this sort of thing across the Atlantic. http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Charter-Starts-Selling-Your-Browsing-History-94421
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: Rik on May 16, 2008, 18:37:44
I noticed a report the other day - it seems users, generally, are less than impressed with this concept.
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: Noreen on May 16, 2008, 18:44:45
And the American system is an "opt out" one requiring cookies, if you later delete cookies then you have to "opt out" again.
Quotebecause the system uses cookies, a customer must insecurely opt-out of being tracked on each PC in his or her home. Further compounding the work that the customer has to do, if the he or she deletes cookies in accordance with safe browsing techniques, it will be necessary to insecurely opt-out on each and every PC again.
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: Rik on May 16, 2008, 18:45:45
At least we have the ICO on our side...
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: madasahatter on May 16, 2008, 23:23:40
Quote from: Noreen on May 16, 2008, 18:18:17
Did you read the Update at the end of that link?

Totally agree with that last sentence. After all, what is the clearest way to send a message to an ISP that gets into bed with spyware knwoingly? Hit them in the wallet! Enough peeps do it, and then where are they gonna be?
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: Dangerjunkie on May 16, 2008, 23:40:22
Already did it. That's why I'm here. Followed it up with a stinking letter to VM's MD too. :)

It finished with me telling him that he had 90 days to get his people to collect his gear from me or I'll take it as consent to transfer of ownership of it to me and that I may dispose of it in any way I choose...

Cheers,
Paul.
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: Sebby on May 17, 2008, 00:12:52
Nice one, Paul. :thumb:
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: Rik on May 17, 2008, 10:56:45
Quote from: Dangerjunkie on May 16, 2008, 23:40:22
It finished with me telling him that he had 90 days to get his people to collect his gear from me or I'll take it as consent to transfer of ownership of it to me and that I may dispose of it in any way I choose...

A technique I am very fond of, Paul, though I usually add in a storage charge.  >:D :thumb:
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: Gary on May 17, 2008, 10:57:38
Thankfully O2/Be are not using Phorm either, but what worries me more is its ability to "profile" a user, its not all about advertising :mad:
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: JB on May 19, 2008, 14:04:27
There is another nasty already well established. Some IT professionals consider it to be more intrusive than Phorm as it retrieves much more personal data from your computer and can even differentiate between different people using the same computer. It is called comScore.

Take a look here:- http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/12/inside_comscore/
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: Lance on May 19, 2008, 14:13:00
 :eek4: That is one piece of software I certainly do not want on my machines!
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: Rik on May 19, 2008, 15:05:48
Or within a mile of them. :(
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: madasahatter on May 19, 2008, 15:32:05
It's frightening how much that damn thing can do!
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: Rik on May 19, 2008, 15:43:44
Just wait till the Govt opens its databases to it.  :hairpull:
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: madasahatter on May 19, 2008, 16:08:48
they won't do that Rik - they're too busy just leaving it around for anyone to get their hands on  >:D
Title: Re: AntiPhormLite
Post by: Rik on May 19, 2008, 16:14:56
True - they don't have to go to the data, the data will come to them.  :rant2: