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Title: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Ted on May 09, 2008, 10:00:42
I'm pleased to say that the SingTel Firmware 5.29.117.3 works perfectly on a Single SSID 2700hgv :thumb:
All signs of BT are now removed :thumb:
Everything seems stable works as it should.
The wireless power is from 1 to 6. not sure what they equate to yet. The connection to the laptop downstairs seems better.
The wireless channels are 1 to 13
Just did a speed test at 6463kbps ;D





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Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Rik on May 09, 2008, 10:05:52
Looks good Ted.  :thumb:
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Lance on May 09, 2008, 10:13:36
Good stuff!  :)
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Ted on May 09, 2008, 10:16:35
I just checked for firmware upgrades and it says i have the latest version but it did install the Firewall Monitor.  :thumb:
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: g7pkf on May 09, 2008, 10:37:57
come on someone be brave and install it on a dual ssid!!

quick question did it reset everything to factory settings?

or did it keep your settings?
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Ted on May 09, 2008, 11:07:29
Quote from: g7pkf on May 09, 2008, 10:37:57
come on someone be brave and install it on a dual ssid!!

quick question did it reset everything to factory settings?

or did it keep your settings?

Have a look Here (http://bt2700hgv.tripod.com/ir1002700HGV.htm#Dual%20SSID%202700HGV) for dual + SingTel flashing. Also i think Kinmel has flashed a dual.
Once i know everything's ok with this single ssid, I'll definitely flash the dual ssid as well ;D

The configuration page defaults to SingTel settings and the firewall is default so i would say yes, everything is reset.

All the Voip stuff appears intact but i don't use it so can't say if its functioning properly. Can't see why not though.

It looks as if you can get content screening by connecting back to the BT provisioning servers for a while and then back again ;D
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: kinmel on May 09, 2008, 11:47:46
Quote from: g7pkf on May 09, 2008, 10:37:57
come on someone be brave and install it on a dual ssid!!

quick question did it reset everything to factory settings?

or did it keep your settings?

I have put the Singtel on a couple of Dual SSIDs, no problems at all.  It removes all of your settings and comes up in Factory Reset state.

If you do it, the MDC password is 2wire, all lowercase.

The highest known firmware for changing back from the Singtel at the moment is bt-2700hgv_reinstall_voice_adsl.5-29-107-12.2sp, unless someone has a later version for us.
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Rik on May 09, 2008, 11:49:46
Quote from: kinmel on May 09, 2008, 11:47:46
If you do it, the MCD password is 2wire, all lowercase.

Shouldn't that be 2wire, Alan. ;D :out:

Sorry, old typographers' joke...
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Ted on May 09, 2008, 11:52:47
Another thing to check is the timezone, it defaults to Kuala Lumpur, Singapore. Well it would, wouldn't it. ;D
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Lance on May 09, 2008, 11:53:26
Quote from: Rik on May 09, 2008, 11:49:46
Shouldn't that be 2wire, Alan. ;D :out:

Sorry, old typographers' joke...

old being Rik's self description! :out:
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Rik on May 09, 2008, 11:55:54
 :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:  ;D
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Sebby on May 09, 2008, 14:57:06
Are there any benefits to the SingTel firmware on a dual SSID?
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Rik on May 09, 2008, 15:16:41
It works well in Singapore? ;D :out:
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: kinmel on May 09, 2008, 15:18:21
Quote from: Sebby on May 09, 2008, 14:57:06
Are there any benefits to the SingTel firmware on a dual SSID?

No, it just has the highest version number so far
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: g7pkf on May 09, 2008, 15:19:18
No bt badging

no dns poisoning reqd (AFAIAA)

wireless power to 6

and possibly on the voip side there may be advantages on being able to dial sipgate numbers (and others) directly.

Go on do it you know it makes sense  ;D



Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Ted on May 09, 2008, 15:41:37
All the above + 2 more wireless channels, 2467 and 2472MHz.

but mostly NO BT :thumb:
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Rik on May 09, 2008, 15:46:23
Quote from: Ted on May 09, 2008, 15:41:37
All the above + 2 more wireless channels, 2467 and 2472MHz.

Are they recognised by UK equipment, Ted?
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Ted on May 09, 2008, 15:47:58
Haven't tried them yet. I'll have a go and let you know.
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Rik on May 09, 2008, 15:49:13
Thanks.  :thumb:
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Ted on May 09, 2008, 15:59:32
Bugger!!  Don't you get fed up being right all the time ;D

OK even though the 2 extra channels "Don't" work (edit), there is absolutely no BT and that's good enough for me :thumb:
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Cookiemonster on May 09, 2008, 16:03:15
So is it safe to use this with the Dual SSID then?
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Rik on May 09, 2008, 16:03:51
Quote from: Ted on May 09, 2008, 15:59:32
Bugger!!  Don't you get fed up being right all the time ;D

I'll let you know, Ted. ;)
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Ted on May 09, 2008, 16:06:58
Quote from: jester212 on May 09, 2008, 16:03:15
So is it safe to use this with the Dual SSID then?

Check it out here (http://bt2700hgv.tripod.com/ir1002700HGV.htm#Dual%20SSID%202700HGV)
and kinmel has done a couple, so i would say yes.
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: kinmel on May 09, 2008, 16:19:28
Quote from: g7pkf on May 09, 2008, 15:19:18
No bt badging

no dns poisoning reqd (AFAIAA)

We get Singtel badging instead  ;D 

none of the Dual SSIDs  need DNS poisoning.

Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Steve on May 09, 2008, 16:25:49
The default minimum noise margin is 8dB (It is 6dB with BT firmwares) comment from http://bt2700hgv.tripod.com/ir1002700HGV.htm#Dual%20SSID%202700HGV (http://bt2700hgv.tripod.com/ir1002700HGV.htm#Dual%20SSID%202700HGV)

Is that an issue? :)
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Ted on May 09, 2008, 16:47:06
Quote from: stevethegas on May 09, 2008, 16:25:49
The default minimum noise margin is 8dB (It is 6dB with BT firmwares) comment from http://bt2700hgv.tripod.com/ir1002700HGV.htm#Dual%20SSID%202700HGV (http://bt2700hgv.tripod.com/ir1002700HGV.htm#Dual%20SSID%202700HGV)

Is that an issue? :)

Personally i would say no. you can always flash back to BT if it is ;D
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Lance on May 09, 2008, 16:49:27
Shouldn't be an issue, it'll just result in a slightly lower sync (unless you sync at 8128 with plenty of margin to spare!).
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Sebby on May 09, 2008, 16:53:43
It wouldn't be an issue for me as my target is 9, but as DNS poisoning isn't required on the dual SSID, I don't think I'll bother. :)
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Cookiemonster on May 09, 2008, 16:54:37
Yeah i concur. If it ain't broke then I'm not fixing it.. ;D
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Steve on May 09, 2008, 16:58:50
Quote from: Lance on May 09, 2008, 16:49:27
Shouldn't be an issue, it'll just result in a slightly lower sync (unless you sync at 8128 with plenty of margin to spare!).

But does that not in theory defeat one of the gains of the 2 wire on a long line? :)
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Rik on May 09, 2008, 16:59:09
Yes.
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Ted on May 09, 2008, 17:11:10
Quote from: stevethegas on May 09, 2008, 16:58:50
But does that not in theory defeat one of the gains of the 2 wire on a long line? :)

now this is purely aesthetically speaking but, SingTel gives me Karmic waves "AaaaaHmmmmmmmmmm" where as BT gives me "Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"

you probably haven't guessed but i have a few issues with BT :whistle:
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Sebby on May 09, 2008, 17:14:57
I do know what you mean, Ted. If it was like the SBC firmware, I'd do it, but I just can't see the benefit (plus I don't want to risk bricking my lovely new 2700!). :)
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Ted on May 09, 2008, 17:20:23
Quote from: Sebby on May 09, 2008, 17:14:57
I do know what you mean, Ted. If it was like the SBC firmware, I'd do it, but I just can't see the benefit (plus I don't want to risk bricking my lovely new 2700!). :)

Me too, that's why i waited for this one to turn up. Just happened to be a single ssid so i had a choice, SBC or Singtel :thumb:
I might try the SBC firmware sometime soon :hehe:

The SingTel Firmware is definitely going on the Dual :thumb:




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Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: g7pkf on May 13, 2008, 12:23:33
 ;D took the plunge  ;D

no more  bt for me!

seems okay so far
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: g7pkf on May 13, 2008, 12:30:10
Forgot to say for me the 9dB target is good.

for those of you long in the tooth see here:-

Trains (http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=technical&Number=2881569&page=&view=&sb=&o=)

As when three go by within 1 minute the snr drops by 6-8dB so at least my line should hold up with a slight degredation in download speed.
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Rik on May 13, 2008, 12:37:46
I bet you love the word Pendolino.  >:D
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: g7pkf on May 13, 2008, 13:25:49
Quote from: Rik on May 13, 2008, 12:37:46
I bet you love the word Pendolino.  >:D

no comment the swear filter would go into meltdown
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Rik on May 13, 2008, 13:41:29
 :rofl:
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: g7pkf on May 13, 2008, 16:25:21
Well after upgrading the firmware the target is definately 9.

Its resynced once. Normally i get stability around the 3500 mark anyhigher and it resyncs due to errors and the snr dropping. hoping target being 9 i should now get a more stable line.

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Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Rik on May 13, 2008, 16:34:24
Impressive speed test for that sync, Dean. ;)
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: g7pkf on May 25, 2008, 09:07:39
I like the singtel firmware.  ;D

since loading it on a dual ssid 2700 i have not had a single re-sync, as many of you know this used to be a real problem.

in 12 days no re-sync.

before the most i ever achieved was 10 days (and that was when the trains were not running most of the time!)

seems the 9db target has actually done me good i would rather have reliability over speed anyday whats 500K-1Mb increase in speed good for if you re-sync every 2-3 hours?especially for gamers and voip users.

Dean
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Rik on May 25, 2008, 09:09:53
Sounds like a result, Dean.  :thumb:
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Sebby on May 25, 2008, 10:39:15
That's good news, Dean. I'll probably give in one day... :)
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Jimbo on Jul 30, 2008, 21:12:20
Bit of a late addition.  I've just flashed to this firmware to see if I get anymore joy from my router/line.  I can't seem to access home/tech or home/mdc.  I enter the password "2wire" but it says "unknown error has occured" above the password box.  I can't seem to get in...   ???

Any ideas?

On another note.  I'm loving the mac filtering now and the fact I have WPA2.  Don't seem to have this "firewall monitor" thing that I've seen people mention either?!?
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Ted on Jul 30, 2008, 22:02:24
Try going to the log in page and click on "i forgot the password" and reset the system password.

To get the firewall monitor, click on "view available upgrades and options" that should do it, it did for me.
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Jimbo on Jul 30, 2008, 22:29:24
Quote from: Ted on Jul 30, 2008, 22:02:24
Try going to the log in page and click on "i forgot the password" and reset the system password.

To get the firewall monitor, click on "view available upgrades and options" that should do it, it did for me.

Hi Ted

I've changed the system password to something unique, no joy with that either.  I've tried:-

2wire
2Wire
Wireless
wireless
SingTel
singtel
singTel

and then my user set password.  :shake:

Hmmm.... will try again tomorrow.  Never a good idea to mess on with this sort of thing after a few beers! lol  :no:
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Jimbo on Jul 30, 2008, 22:32:37
Quote from: Ted on Jul 30, 2008, 22:02:24
Try going to the log in page and click on "i forgot the password" and reset the system password.

To get the firewall monitor, click on "view available upgrades and options" that should do it, it did for me.

Thanks, didn't see your bit there about the firewall monitor.

When I click "view available upgrades" this is what I get:-

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/j_firegod/Computer/Router_Error.jpg

???
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Ted on Jul 30, 2008, 22:38:51
Does seem a bit odd. where did you get the firmware from?

you could also try a factory reset, see if that helps. (paper clip in the hole on the back for 30secs)
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Sebby on Jul 30, 2008, 23:46:59
I was going to say, a factory reset is probably a good idea. :)
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Jimbo on Jul 31, 2008, 18:22:57
Cheers chaps.  I'll try it again at the weekend, factory reset and possibly re-flash again.  I'll let you know how I get on. :)
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Rik on Jul 31, 2008, 18:26:53
We'll keep our :fingers: for you, Jimbo.

Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: kinmel on Jul 31, 2008, 18:56:54
Quote from: Jimbo on Jul 31, 2008, 18:22:57
Cheers chaps.  I'll try it again at the weekend, factory reset and possibly re-flash again.  I'll let you know how I get on. :)

Hmm.. unlike all the other firmwares, the Singtel defaults to a password, if you can't get it to accept 2wire then you can't re-flash it.
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Jimbo on Jul 31, 2008, 19:29:48
Well I couldn't wait. haha :D I have no patience.

I pressed the button on the back of the 2700 unit, kept it in and then unplugged the power when all the lights went out.  Booted back up, and reflashed the firmware again.  It now lets me in with "2wire". Yey!  :thumb:

However, I'm still trying to get the additional features to appear... so far, no luck. But I have just clicked "view available upgrade options" and it seems to now be thinking about something, and not giving me the URL error as before.  So it may appear.... :eyebrow:

If not I'll try one more reset and flash and try a different security key. 

Thanks again!
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Sebby on Jul 31, 2008, 23:20:45
I'm glad you can at least log in now! :)
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Ted on Aug 01, 2008, 00:14:29
Quote from: Jimbo on Jul 31, 2008, 19:29:48
Well I couldn't wait. haha :D I have no patience.

Sounds just like me. Poke that button and hope for the best (when all else fails), it works most of the time. And if it doesn't, there's always "ebay" :thumb:
Title: Re: SingTel Firmware Upgrade
Post by: Jimbo on Aug 02, 2008, 15:40:55
Thanks peeps. :)