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Title: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: D-Dan on May 05, 2008, 18:52:27
I have an odd phenomenon that I'd like to be enlightened on, if anyone has experienced the same and solved it.

Since I changed the processor on my MB, with AMD Cool & Quiet set in BIOS and Windows power management set, I've noticed that, until I run CPUID, cool and quiet doesn't seem to work. I use speedfan to constantly display the temp in the sys tray, and after boot it will sit there at around 30 - 35C (*depending on ambient temp). However, as soon as I fire up CPUID, while the program is loading, the temp drops 10C.

It's as though the CPU says "Oh hell - he's watching me - I better drop my temps quick".

Once CPUID has loaded, I can quit it and the temps remain controlled, until the next boot.

Now, as far as I know, CPUID just reports, and doesn't change, so assuming my CPU isn't running scared when it detects CPUID, what's going on?

Steve
Title: Re: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: Simon on May 05, 2008, 19:43:51
Sorry, I haven't a clue, Steve.   :-\
Title: Re: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: Cookiemonster on May 05, 2008, 19:46:17
Me neither.... :dunno: :dunno:
Title: Re: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: Rik on May 05, 2008, 19:51:11
The only thing I can come up with, and it's completely off the wall, is that the sensors are using binary-coded decimal, and CPUID puts a mask on one bit.

See, I told you it was a rubbish idea. ;D
Title: Re: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: Sebby on May 05, 2008, 20:41:22
It's probably that you haven't installed the AMD driver (http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/utilities/AMD_Processor_Driver_1320053.zip) (the Windows one is no good). It's necessary for Cool'n'Quiet to work.

Also, which power profile do you have Windows set to use? It must be Minimal Power Management.
Title: Re: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: D-Dan on May 05, 2008, 21:20:46
I have the latest AMD drivers - and windows power management at minimal.

It just strikes me odd that the CPU seems to go running scared when CPUID is loading - and not before.

Very strange
Title: Re: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: Sebby on May 05, 2008, 22:47:14
That is very strange, Dan. And you have the MS Hotfix?
Title: Re: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: Steve on May 06, 2008, 08:46:08
Since everything seems to be setup correctly i.e amd driver and windows power management I wonder is your MB bios uptodate for the new processor that you have installed. :)
Title: Re: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: Sebby on May 06, 2008, 10:44:47
Yep, I did think it might be the BIOS.
Title: Re: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: mrapoc on May 06, 2008, 11:05:10
Different programs tend to read different sensors so starting that up may affect the other. Just read the highest value and ul be fine lol
Title: Re: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: D-Dan on May 06, 2008, 20:15:40
Yes - hotfix installed and the BIOS fully supports the processor (according to the ABIT website - I checked before I spent money).

I could take the highest value, but I know cool & quiet is failing. Fire up Windows properties and it reports my CPU running at 3.2 Ghz, with a core temp of 32C.

Now - wait one sec........

OK - just ran and closed cpuz - speed 1Ghz and temp down to 25C

Now I know 32C isn't too high, and that under load C&C will ramp the speed back up (with the corresponding temp increase), but that's the whole point of Cool & Quiet.

Maybe it's time to ask AMD.

Steve
Title: Re: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: Sebby on May 06, 2008, 21:46:38
I can't think of anything else. I haven't done anything that you haven't done and mine is working perfectly, as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: Niall on May 06, 2008, 22:04:19
I know exactly what it is; paranoia. Now go outside and play! :D
Title: Re: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: D-Dan on May 07, 2008, 00:31:01
LOl- go outside and play. If I dare to venture outside - - someone will find me and ask me to fix exactly this problem for them.

I've never been beat by a PC before - I don't intend to start now.
Title: Re: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: Rik on May 07, 2008, 09:42:47
You'd prefer we send Jill round??  :o
Title: Re: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: D-Dan on May 07, 2008, 22:17:55
LOL - it would make a change from heating engineers, joiners (and just tonight, a locksmith since I left my keys at work with the MD 150 miles away and no way to get in).

Come to think of it - I'm having a pretty bad run - sure - send her round lol

Steve
Title: Re: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: Sebby on May 07, 2008, 23:05:59
Things can only get better. ;)
Title: Re: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: Rik on May 08, 2008, 09:31:10
That's what Tony Blair said. ;D
Title: Re: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: Sebby on May 08, 2008, 10:42:39
:hehe:
Title: Re: AMD Cool & Quiet
Post by: Sebby on May 12, 2008, 19:04:14
Dan, did you get this sorted? I just found this (http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/utilities/AMD_Power_Monitor_121.zip) utility on the AMD site that will show you the current frequency, etc, just in case Windows is misreporting it.