Its ok relax Im not after a great deal here is the situation.I have one fairly new pc.one notepad,and another machine which is about 4 ours old.p4 new fans new mother board but not a lot of memory as some of you may already know.
Now instead of just putting memory on,which I did intend to do.This machine has other issues.It wont write to DVD or burn,it did before and engineer changed it,the machine is black and he put a white one in,,,nice.
Now I could put it in a skip,but my daughter uses it and I think there is life in this.
I am thinking of refurbishing it and also changing the case etc.
When I got this machine there was no OS.so no disc although the windows is legal etc.can I back this lot up in some way..just yes or no,s as Im evaluating.
Any secondly it it fairly straight forward to change the things. I know memory etc,but things like the DVD etc.or am I being too ambitious..
I have not put this in help as its just me thinking about this job and whether its got a good chance of success.... :fingers:
Without a Windows CD you might have problems, David. If you're just thinking of a cosmetic refurb, eg case, DVD drive etc, you should have no problems, but if you were planning to go further and upgrade major components, then it would probably entail a fresh installation of Windows. That would not apply to just adding memory, though.
I don't think this would be needed as it had a new motherboard and fan etc only 11 months ago so I think its just cosmetic,speed,DVD writer and case really Rick,
What do you mean by speed, David?
Just memory really rick speed I thought that was the pen 4 processor did this job. really I think it fast enough so I will stick with simple as she is only 9 and I just want it upgraded for her .
How much memory do you have at present?
I think its 512 or 500 odd and there is another slot for another card,this is the same pc as we spoke about with Midtown Madness thread Rik.so I think I can double that have not looked for the number part yet
What you've got to watch out for is that you don't start spending as much as a new budget PC would cost.
You could quite easily put some extra RAM in; another 512MB should be fine for XP.
Is there a license sticker on the side of the case? If not, there are programs to get the license key from your current installation, then you can borrow an XP disc off of someone - that is perfectly legal. The issue might be that it was an OEM version of XP, so if someone lends you a retail version, it won't accept the key. This (http://www.howtohaven.com/system/createwindowssetupdisk.shtml) may also help.
yes thats near enough and hence the question in reality I could get her a budget one for 250 so thats what I am trying to gauge.
Yes there is a license sticker on there Rik with a number which I have in the past entered on Microsoft's website to get a download or something (could be a player) but that went through ok.
The other alternative if this would prove too costly would be to keep the spares like the fan etc ???
My own view would be it's not worth changing the case. I'd add some RAM, put a black DVD drive in and, if the case and PSU will support it, an extra HD.
Thanks Rik..for once you dint go mad with my bank card.....hmm :thumb:
I'm saving that for the spec on the new machine. :)
Since it is XP we are talking about, so that we know where you are starting from, go to:
Start
Help and Support
Use Tools to view.......
My Computer Information
View general system information about this computer
This will show you the:
Machine Specification
Processor information - including the speed
The Operation System - the version of XP that you are running
General Computer Info - including your IP Address so don't paste it here
Memory Capacity
Hard Disk Capacity
There is a way to find the details of you optical drives but I will have to look this up when I get home.
Aging memory cells and all that! :)
Ah no, I know go back to:
My Computer Information ....... then go to:
Find information about the hardware installed on this computer
Towards the bottom you should see the optical drive data (CD/DVD ROM/Burner)
(That was almost an edit) :)
Thanks Les will post info soon :thnks: :thumb:
The only info I have managed Les is
Pent 4cpu
280 GhZ
512 RAM
Double or quadruple the RAM, David, and that machine will go a lot faster.
Quote from: badpianoplayer on Apr 22, 2008, 16:03:31
280 GhZ
David you have the fastest P4 I have ever come across! ;)
I think you mean 2.8 GHz and that's still no mean beast. :)
If you found the info you quote from where I sent you at View general information the Hard Disk Drive capacity is there too towards the bottom so you may have to scroll down to see it.
Quote from: LesD on Apr 22, 2008, 16:08:10
David you have the fastest P4 I have ever come across! ;)
You should see the refrigeration unit! ;D
David if you have CC Cleaner Installed, that will tell you the info that you are seeking at the top left of the page.
I have a Pentium 4, I doubled my memory to 2GB, as in 4 x 512 's, it flies now, you would probably be better off using 2 x 1GB modules.
Quote from: Rik on Apr 22, 2008, 16:11:16
You should see the refrigeration unit! ;D
What do you reckon Freon or water cooled with radiators. ;)
I agree with Rik on the memory front. How much to go for would depend on the memory slots you have available from my point of view because I would definitely be reusing the 512 MB module myself. :)
I run XP Pro with 2 GB of RAM with a 3.2 GHz Hyperthreading Intel P4 and not being a Gamer it rarely gets out of first gear! :) My other machine has 1 GB of RAM with a 2.4 GHz P4 and it runs sweet as a bird.
Take a look in your motherboard manual at what RAM you can install and in particular what type you need.
If you don't have a manual you can probably download one from the mobo manufacturer's website. :thumb:
Quote from: LesD on Apr 22, 2008, 16:20:47
What do you reckon Freon or water cooled with radiators. ;)
Water-cooled with rads around the house. It's
hell in summer. :)
As previously posted by Noreen, SIW, http://www.majorgeeks.com/SIW_System_Info_d4387.html with get all the system details including any passwords and keys on the PC
Quote from: LesD on Apr 22, 2008, 16:20:47
Take a look in your motherboard manual at what RAM you can install and in particular what type you need.
If you don't have a manual you can probably download one from the mobo manufacturer's website. :thumb:
I always find the Crucial system scanner (http://www.crucial.com/uk/systemscanner/index.aspx) useful if the manual isn't easily accessible. :)
Whatever you decide to do, David, it's relatively easy, as long as you make sure you get the right components. If I can do it, a blind monkey with half a brain could! ;D
Maximum Memory Capacity: 2048MB
Currently Installed Memory: 512MB
Available Memory Slots: 0
Number of Banks: 2
Dual Channel Support: Yes
CPU Manufacturer: GenuineIntel
CPU Family: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz Model 2, Stepping 9
CPU Speed: 2799 MHz
This is the info so far ???
Currently installed memory:
256MBDDR PC2700 256MBDDR PC2700
Each memory slot can hold DDR PC2700,DDR PC3200 with a maximum of 1GB per slot.*
*Not to exceed manufacturer supported memory.
2nd bit ???
It looks like you have 2 x 256MB of RAM installed, David. Making that 2 x 512MB would be a significant improvement. 2 x 1GB would be even better. You're probably looking at around £26 for the former, £48 for the latter.
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Products.asp?CatID=22&Category=Memory&ThumbNails=Yes&FilterKeywords=&FilterMinPrice=&FilterMaxPrice=&FilterCategories=82&OrderBy=1
Quote from: Rik on Apr 22, 2008, 17:59:35
It looks like you have 2 x 256MB of RAM installed, David. Making that 2 x 512MB would be a significant improvement. 2 x 1GB would be even better. You're probably looking at around £26 for the former, £48 for the latter.
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Products.asp?CatID=22&Category=Memory&ThumbNails=Yes&FilterKeywords=&FilterMinPrice=&FilterMaxPrice=&FilterCategories=82&OrderBy=1
Me I would be looking here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-x-512MB-PC2700-DDR-333MHz-Unbuffered-184-Pin-DIMM-1Gb_W0QQitemZ330230394244QQihZ014QQcategoryZ172QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
but check the pins (184) and frequency ie the 333 MHz are right for your machine
Thanks Les for that have marked the item and will check both before bidding....Rik always there and appreciate everything,including the puns :thnks: :karma:
Or.... I got mine from here last week, it is branded and a matched pair, Lifetime Warranty as well. ;)
Just check for compatibility.
https://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/default.php?cat=11&type=11020&man=0&filterwords=&go=SEARCH&comp=
Quote from: Inactive on Apr 23, 2008, 00:43:32
I got mine from here last week, it is branded and a matched pair, Lifetime Warranty as well. ;)
https://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/default.php?cat=11&type=11020&man=0&filterwords=&go=SEARCH&comp=
Those are good prices! :thumb:
Ok so Im only just about to order :-X I think I am right but thought I would double check.I have had the back of this thing and looked where the ram slots are and can see I have 2 spare slots now I think I should be ordering 2 SIMM have I got it correct ?
I want to take out one of the existing SIMM to get the number off it.can I do any harm ?I will ensure I am aware of static so will be careful.
Have I got it all right.......... :fingers:
That's the way to go, David. :)
No need to take it apart David, using Internet Explorer, go to Crucial and run a memory scan, it should tell you exactly what you need and what the maximum is.
http://www.crucial.com/uk/?gclid=CPTQwb7p35MCFQ3_sgodTXrmZQ
:thumb:
Quote from: Rik on Jun 06, 2008, 13:28:06
That's the way to go, David. :)
:ithank: Thanks Rik....will get ordering,looking forward to seeing what effect it has :fingers:
Quote from: Inactive on Jun 06, 2008, 13:29:22
No need to take it apart David, using Internet Explorer, go to Crucial and run a memory scan, it should tell you exactly what you need and what the maximum is.
http://www.crucial.com/uk/?gclid=CPTQwb7p35MCFQ3_sgodTXrmZQ
:thumb:
Thanks In will try that, :thumb:
System Manufacturer: Packard Bell NEC
System Model: 00000000000000000000000
Motherboard Manufacturer: NEC COMPUTERS INTERNATIONAL
Motherboard Model: GA-8TRC410M-NF
would this be enough for me to order the correct SIMM ?
My particular model is not listed so a generic/universal type ?
Maximum Memory Capacity: 2048 MB
Currently Installed Memory: 1024 MB
Available Memory Slots: 2
Number of Banks: 4
Dual Channel Support: N.A.
CPU Manufacturer: GenuineIntel
CPU Family: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz Model 4, Stepping 7
CPU Speed: 2793 MHz
You should be able to run a system scan at Crucial without your computer being listed, it should advise the correct memory down the page David. ;)
Thanks In got it,and a very good price too.....now the hard part waiting for the postman...and its a weekend :rant2: why do I always do these things over the weekend . ;D
Crucial deliver very quickly, at least in my experience. :)
Just,for once looking forward to putting these in and seeing a difference,have checked out the "How to" sites and got a better view of this with the aid of photos so fairly confident.. ;)
watch this space Sebby !! :pray:
It's very simple, David, I promise. ;)
You'll see the existing RAM, and some empty slots next to them. The new RAM simply clicks in, and it only fits in one way. :)
Unless you use a hammer, that is... >:D ;D :out:
:rofl:
Quote from: Rik on Jun 06, 2008, 17:25:57
Unless you use a hammer, that is... >:D ;D :out:
With me Rik,this is entirely possible :bump:
Quote from: Rik on Jun 06, 2008, 17:25:57
Unless you use a hammer, that is... >:D ;D :out:
But it has to be a left-handed one. :D
:pmsl:
Good news David, last time that I ordered from Crucial, the memory arrived extremely quickly.
Even I can fit memory, so I am sure that you can.. ;)
If you need a video of how it's done, let me know, I will post a link.
Quote from: Inactive on Jun 06, 2008, 23:50:45
Good news David, last time that I ordered from Crucial, the memory arrived extremely quickly.
Even I can fit memory, so I am sure that you can.. ;)
If you need a video of how it's done, let me know, I will post a link.
Thanks In that would be helpful......going to look into the laptops as well ;D
Hold fire, I will go find it.. ;)
OK David, click on this link, then on Video on the left.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129954
Memory is all fitted in the same way, so don't worry if it looks any different to yours.
Or this one;
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/63128
:thnks:
Just received an Email from crucial systems and they have given me the exact memory sticks for this pc so all I have to do now is order them...really nice Email and even apologized for being late..good price I think £15.85 for a 512 and I need 2 so thats cheaper than I thought it would be...I had held off ordering until I was sure but I just Emailed the scan results over to them and they identified the part numbers...thought it might save the hassle....so all good here,If this proves a success I will do the same with the other desktop and then the Toshiba laptop.reading the manual on the new one its just a case of unscrewing the back cover and there it is.
What improvement am I likely to see.I don't expect speeds to improve Im hoping that improving memory will just make life easier for the systems if that makes sense..be a good experience and give me a little more knowledge if not a lot more RAM ;D
Great service from Crucial, sadly RAM for older systems is more expensive than it is for newer systems, supply and demand I guess, additional RAM can only help things ..so it will be money well spent, as well as the experience gained. :thumb:
More RAM = more speed with Windows, David. It will stop the hard drive being thrashed (if it was) and will allow you to run more apps simultaneously.
I think its cheap to be honest In,This desktop is about 18 months old.the other one upstairs must be 4 years old and then the laptop is about is about 4 weeks old...but the prices for this one are good..and saves me from spending around £80 just to get someone to do the work,but this didn't include the price of the RAM ! but Im a little wiser now thanks to you all on here..and getting a little more confident in carrying out jobs which I would never dreamed of attempting ;)
Quote from: Rik on Jun 12, 2008, 17:07:41
More RAM = more speed with Windows, David. It will stop the hard drive being thrashed (if it was) and will allow you to run more apps simultaneously.
Sounds daft but just want to do it Rik...for the satisfaction of,although a seemingly simple task but to know I have done it.... :laugh:
Once you have, David, you'll realise it's a bit like plumbing - all the attached mystery the trade likes to put on the work doesn't actually mean it's that difficult, providing you use a little common sense.
I hoped it would be like this Rik..I have split things up in my mind to learn..Ie memory the web, hard drive,motherboard.router etc and over time I thought learn what these things do and when ready should be able to understand how each part interacts with the other and hopefully have a greater understanding of pcs. trying to understand the whole package at once is for me a big no no..for instance in my mind,take the router,this is nothing to do with a pc.its just a carrier so I need to understand this before I can even hope to grasp its performance and many other things like syncs etc but I will get there. :)
Think about how you are plumbing the bathroom. You don't see it as a whole, but as a series of joints connected by bits of pipe. Computers are a bit the same.
They are indeed, Rik. When you have a look inside, it actually makes a lot of sense. It's very logical. :)
It's also very modular and, just like plumbing, they usually hide something behind something else, so you end up taking it to bits for what should have been a five minute job. >:D
:hehe:
I think we've all experienced that. :P
Quote from: Rik on Jun 12, 2008, 17:50:08
Think about how you are plumbing the bathroom. You don't see it as a whole, but as a series of joints connected by bits of pipe. Computers are a bit the same.
Great analogy and say it better than I could its exactly what Im :thumb: trying to say..
Quote from: badpianoplayer on Jun 12, 2008, 17:11:25
I think its cheap to be honest In,
I agree that it's cheap David, all I was trying to get across is the fact that RAM for the latest machines is cheaper than that for older machines, am example is I got 1GB of Ram for my new machine for £10.99 delivered from PlayCom, that would cost more than double that for my main computer that is nearly 3 years old. ;)
It is indeed. If it's for a fairly current PC, the likelihood is that it'll be in plentiful supply. Older machines that use more obsolete types of RAM are definitely more expensive.
Well just ordered from Crucialsupport the 2 512 RAM that will double the existing and I ordered a wristband as well,assuming this is to conquer static..
The Toshiba RAM at present 1 GB will on completion of the desk top will be doubled but I was surprised as I thought being Toshiba as opposed to NEC it would be dearer but it is nearly half !
Then I have the notebook to look at have been looking up on the support website and can see how to carry this out.
Then the other desk top which started all this with Midtown Madness as this is the oldest machine I see there is virtually no space at all on the HD so that one will get quadruple the speed (as per Riks advice) it has now and I will also go that bit further and replace the DVD,Im keeping the jobs fairly easy and at a slow speed to get to know and hopefully gain some confidence... and a better machine
I will turn the oldest one into a mini project where it is learning,ok it will cost but the experience I hope to gain will pay for itself and I could end up with a cracking little machine..if not no real harm done :)
With the cost of HDs as they are, David, you may want to think about putting a new drive in while you're there.
Quote from: badpianoplayer on Jun 13, 2008, 12:43:00
Well just ordered from Crucialsupport the 2 512 RAM that will double the existing and I ordered a wristband as well,assuming this is to conquer static..
It is David, I never bother with them to install memory, I just earth the computer chassis/self by touching a cold water pipe, but better safe than sorry. :thumb:
I thought that although the memory is easy and no real chance of damage I got the wristband for future jobs which may be prudent to be wearing it.....
I will check the HD out though at the earliest..I have taken a look and see its the same make as my Sky + box,is it in fact the same part looks the same,or is this a dumb question.same make same shape
Most HDs from a particular manufacture look fairly similar, David. Just check the power and data connectors for compatibility.
It may well be the same as the one in your Sky+ Box David, no way to tell without looking at them closely.
As far as I am aware there are IDE and the newer Sata type drives, I am guessing that yours is the IDE type.
Rik etc. will know more. ;)
Oh I didn't intend to put anything other than a new one from an online company it was just an an observation really.....
I realised that David.. ;)
:rofl: :clever:
;D ;D
Well that was very fast.the ram I ordered yesterday afternoon has just been delivered very good service from crucial...have to double check they are the correct modules for the machine but I am optimistic as they worked it out from the scan and the motherboard installed so will install them in a little while.this will all being well double the ram... :fingers:
:fingers:
Great service as usual from Crucial, just remember that they only fit one way round David, there is an offset slot so you cannot get them the wrong way round.
Also just pop the end clips down before fitting them, then with even firm pressure just push downwards on them, the end clips should just close themselves .. sorted. :thumb:
:thnks: ....Im glad these things didnt get lost in the post...cant remember the last time I had amnesia ;D
Quote from: badpianoplayer on Jun 14, 2008, 12:18:51
.cant remember the last time I had amnesia ;D
:grn: .. ;D
I've never liked tinned rice pudding. ;D
Got the sides off and Im looking at two memory slots which have modules in no room for any others,am I supposed to replace the existing ones ?
Quote from: Rik on Jun 14, 2008, 12:44:27
I've never liked tinned rice pudding. ;D
:groan:
Quote from: badpianoplayer on Jun 14, 2008, 12:47:51
Got the sides off and Im looking at two memory slots which have modules in no room for any others,am I supposed to replace the existing ones ?
Yes David.. :thumb:
Just press down on the end clips to release them.
Can I be excused for not knowing this please.. :blush:
You are excused David ;D, some Motherboards have 4 memory slots, but as yours has only 2, not a lot of choice. ;)
I just knew it was too good.....these do not fit...having taken mine out I see that the installed ones are DDR 533 CL4
yet the ones I have recieved are DDR 333 CL2 and they dont fit.in the centre of the of the DDR there is a slot which on the pcs is a arch like cutut but on th enew ones its not matching up...time to Email them I guess and whilst these are out will take the correctg number
which number would you qoute ?
I am no expert David, but I would have thought that they should fit, they may not be absolutely identical.
Rik etc. will advise further. ;)
Have you tried fitting them both ways round, David? The slots on the modules are offset, so the modules only fit one way into the motherboard slots. It's unusual for Crucial to get it wrong. :-\
It seems that yours may be DDR2 type David, in which case they will not fit, DDR2 are the newer and cheaper type.
See here for more info;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR2_SDRAM
How about a quick pic of the two side by side, David?
According to Wikopedia the speed that David quoted means that the new ones from Crucial are DDR, his existing ones are DDR2.
So it seems that Crucial got it wrong. :(
They sent DDR 333
Mine are DDR2
The centered is too far offset for them to bed in.....
That's poor. :( Time to get onto Crucial then, David.
Exactly David, they are the wrong ones, they will not fit. :(
Yours are DDR2, faster and cheaper.
A bit late now but this a free tool that I use to find out exactly what my computer hardware is.
:thumb:
http://majorgeeks.com/download4181.html
It is no longer supported but still works fine.
Quote from: Simon on Jun 14, 2008, 13:19:13
Have you tried fitting them both ways round, David? The slots on the modules are offset, so the modules only fit one way into the motherboard slots. It's unusual for Crucial to get it wrong. :-\
yes Simon this makes the centre lug even more off so no chance here..
Just popped the originals back and no problem,so the new one should have been as simple as you guys said.........I think I am cursed with pcs.............will get in touch and hope they take them back,as I have removed them freom the plastic envelopes :fingers:
David, this is another good free one to get your system information SIW available here (http://www.gtopala.com/siw-download.html) This is the info it returns for one of my memory modules: -
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Thanks Ray and all of you appreciated...I will give them a call have Emailed and hopefully they will sort it as fast as they delivered the first lot. ???
I'm shocked that the system scanner got this wrong, but the good thing is that Crucial will admit the fault as you bought the RAM it detected, rather than selecting manually.
Thanks Sebby nothing I can do until Monday now have sent them the detail and had a reply stating could take 5 days to get back to me......no phone number....... ???
God knows what I did to this thing...ok when I removed the existing memory sticks or whatever tey are called they were very dusty and of course I cleaned them before reinstalling them....but his machine is flying along like I have never known it to....yet just for the crack carried out a speedcheck and its slower than usual so its the machine which has really become much more responsive,which makes no sense at all still Im happy. :laugh:
Quote from: Sheltieuk on Jun 14, 2008, 13:59:32
David, this is another good free one to get your system information SIW available here (http://www.gtopala.com/siw-download.html) This is the info it returns for one of my memory modules: -
The stand alone Ray or with installer which one would you recommend ?
If you are not sure, use the link that I provided David, they are both very similar programmes.
Just click on a USA Flag on the provided link. ;)
Quote from: badpianoplayer on Jun 14, 2008, 15:05:02
The stand alone Ray or with installer which one would you recommend ?
Standalone might be better as it doesn't install anything. :thumb:
Thats interesting.and I mean really is for me at least shows everything on this machine and as I havnt got the hang of screen shots....only been trying for about a month,managed once but will try and do one according to the report these are indeed wrong for my machine Im impressed and wished I had had this on before instead of relying on the scan.
I see their t&c they state that a 20% charge for restocking them is made.I hope they dont try this as its their error and not mine for once. :eyebrow:
Not sure which one you decided on David, but the one in my link even knows the date the memory was manufactured, as well as the date my monitor was made.. :clever: :clever:
I used Rays In,I have tried this other link before and it didn't give me any information for some reason...nothing I did of course :whistle: :whistle:
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo of course not.. ;D ;D
:doh: :getout: :lala: ;D bless you In >:D >:D
Quote from: Rik on Jun 14, 2008, 12:44:27
I've never liked tinned rice pudding. ;D
pure avarice :whistle:
Quote from: Sheltieuk on Jun 14, 2008, 13:59:32
David, this is another good free one to get your system information SIW available here (http://www.gtopala.com/siw-download.html) This is the info it returns for one of my memory modules: -
Just how did you manage to get this Ray ? it got the better of me and I wont tell you how long I have been trying this isn't a screenshot is it ?
Assuming you've got it up and running, David, on the left hand side, you should see a column of main options, a bit like a folder tree. If it's not already opened, click the + box next to Hardware, and then you should see Memory about fifth in the list. Click that, and the info will be displayed in the main window, and yes, Ray did post a screenshot.
Same with the Everest one that I posted a link to, it even tells me the date my monitor was made, it even gives the serial number/date of manufacture and of course type of memory etc.
:clever:
Hi David,
Did the DVD drive turn out to be PATA (IDE - large 40 pin connector) or SATA? (two small black connectors) That machine came out the factory right around the time many companies were switching over so I don't know what it is.
If it's PATA then this should fit in nicely:
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=5318&SearchType=2&CategorySelectedId=11026&SearchTerms=lightscribe+black&PageMode=2&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=11026,4294957178
It comes with three different colour fronts (if I understand the listing), a copy of Nero so you have software, can burn both single layer (4.7GB) and dual layer (8GB) discs and it also does Lightscribe (flip the disc over and use appropriate software to burn a black and white label image direct onto the disc.) I don't know if Nero does Lightscribe but you can get free software at http://www.lightscribe.com
If the machine is SATA then this should fit the bill...
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=53WH&SearchType=2&CategorySelectedId=11026&SearchTerms=lightscribe+black&PageMode=2&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=11026,4294956835
However, as stated in sod's law it's out of stock.
The good news is that almost all the drives in that class come in at under £20 :) Most drives are decent (I like Plextor [expensive but very good], Samsung and LG) but I wouldn't touch a Sony with a 10' sterilized one.
Cheers,
Paul.
p.s. Yes, you machine is well up there with the P4s. I have a 3.06GHz in the office downstairs. I think that or maybe 3.2 was as fast as they went so your machine was pretty much the dog's dooberries at the time.
edit: installing should be easy. Just make sure you are gentle an dpull the cables straight out so you don't damage them and that you use the appropriate screws (not too long) when you screw the new drive in. You may need to slide the drive back and forwards a bit before tightening the screws to get it to line up with the case-front :)
Quote from: badpianoplayer on Jun 14, 2008, 23:27:24
Just how did you manage to get this Ray ? it got the better of me and I wont tell you how long I have been trying this isn't a screenshot is it ?
This is the sort of thing you should be seeing, David, and as Simon said you may have to open up the hardware tree on the left to be able to select the memory.
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Quote from: Dangerjunkie on Jun 15, 2008, 10:43:41
Hi David,
Did the DVD drive turn out to be PATA (IDE - large 40 pin connector) or SATA? (two small black connectors) That machine came out the factory right around the time many companies were switching over so I don't know what it is.
If it's PATA then this should fit in nicely:
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=5318&SearchType=2&CategorySelectedId=11026&SearchTerms=lightscribe+black&PageMode=2&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=11026,4294957178
It comes with three different colour fronts (if I understand the listing), a copy of Nero so you have software, can burn both single layer (4.7GB) and dual layer (8GB) discs and it also does Lightscribe (flip the disc over and use appropriate software to burn a black and white label image direct onto the disc.) I don't know if Nero does Lightscribe but you can get free software at http://www.lightscribe.com
If the machine is SATA then this should fit the bill...
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=53WH&SearchType=2&CategorySelectedId=11026&SearchTerms=lightscribe+black&PageMode=2&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=11026,4294956835
However, as stated in sod's law it's out of stock.
The good news is that almost all the drives in that class come in at under £20 :) Most drives are decent (I like Plextor [expensive but very good], Samsung and LG) but I wouldn't touch a Sony with a 10' sterilized one.
Cheers,
Paul.
p.s. Yes, you machine is well up there with the P4s. I have a 3.06GHz in the office downstairs. I think that or maybe 3.2 was as fast as they went so your machine was pretty much the dog's dooberries at the time.
edit: installing should be easy. Just make sure you are gentle an dpull the cables straight out so you don't damage them and that you use the appropriate screws (not too long) when you screw the new drive in. You may need to slide the drive back and forwards a bit before tightening the screws to get it to line up with the case-front :)
Hi Paul just checked and its sata 40 3-1/2 pin..... If this makes any sense thanks for the advice....I will still nuase it up ;)
Quote from: Simon on Jun 15, 2008, 10:02:52
Assuming you've got it up and running, David, on the left hand side, you should see a column of main options, a bit like a folder tree. If it's not already opened, click the + box next to Hardware, and then you should see Memory about fifth in the list. Click that, and the info will be displayed in the main window, and yes, Ray did post a screenshot.
No rude answers...why cant I get a screenshot like this...I can get one of speedtests ect but this one will not work...could it be because I have the stand alone versionof SIW perhaps ?
I've got the stand alone version too, David. You can take a screenshot of anything by keying Alt+PrintScr, which will copy the active window to your clipboard. You then need to open an image editor, such as Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro, or the built in Paint facility in Start > All Programs > Accessories. Paste the image in, save it as a jpeg, gif, or png, then when you make a post on here, use the Additional Options, browse to the saved image, and select it to attach to the post.
Yes Simon can take other sites like this but for some reason this wont work on this site,for once cant be me as I can screen shot other pages odd !
I've just downloaded the current standalone version, David, and here's part of the screen capture, so it does appear to be working as expected here.
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Thanks Rik I will try on my other machine in a while :think:
Interesting manufacturing date Rik.. ;D
I think maybe they got that bit wrong. ;)
God thats amazing I always knew Rik was a forward thinking guy :-X
Would make an interesting warranty claim.. ;)
The version I had on the machine, a couple of months older, hasn't got dates, so perhaps he's still perfecting that bit?
I'm wondering if that info is unique to those memory modules in that particular PC, Rik, I've just checked mine again, no date information appears but my modules are Crucial ones, I notice that yours are Corsair. ??? ;)
Could be, Ray, I note that Everest and Belarc don't date the memory, but agree on a sensible date for the monitor.
Everest dates two of my memory modules correctly ( Hynix Branded ) but doesn't date the other 2. ( different brand ).
It would appear that there is an optional way of dating RAM then.
Just got off the phone to Crucial and thanks to the SIW I was able to give over the information re motherboards capacity and the correct part number.They were really helpful,which makes a change these days.
All I have to do now is get these sent back and the new order will be sent out when they receive these
Price difference was £7 so no shock here....time to get these to the post office,with luck I will have the correct parts by Thursday.....
One thing I have to say that Crucial are very nice and really efficient,and before anyone mentions the wrong item sent....they had 2 options and made the wrong choice but its all good fun...manufaturers apparanly do use othe parts rathe than listed ones which I guess can be confusing anyway hopefully it will be job done soon... :fingers: :fingers:
I hope that £7 was in your favour David.. ;)
Great result.. :thumb:
I think it is.....she had a very strong accent.....Scottish....but I didn't hold this against her :whistle:
Quote from: badpianoplayer on Jun 16, 2008, 10:43:13
..but I didn't hold this against her :whistle:
;D Good you can arrested for that.. ;)
Only under Scottish law In ;D
Glad you've got this sorted, David. :thumb:
Thanks Sebby,all jokes aside I cant praise them highly enough really friendly and helpful....which ia handy as I have 3 other machines to upgrade if this one works out ok..Top Marks to this company :thumb: