IDNetters Forums

Technical News & Discussion => Windows News & Discussion => Topic started by: Cookiemonster on Apr 20, 2008, 01:22:38

Title: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Cookiemonster on Apr 20, 2008, 01:22:38
You have to marvel at today's technology! I mean fitting 8GB into something as small as this....

(http://stevenraffan.www.idnet.com/pictures/disk.jpg)

Quite extraordinary.
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Lance on Apr 20, 2008, 09:56:19
it wouldn't suprise me if in a years time they have 128gb in the same space!
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Rik on Apr 20, 2008, 10:41:39
Most of that, of course, is the 'package'. Things could be much smaller if it were practical for us to use them at the reduced size.
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Sebby on Apr 20, 2008, 13:04:08
Very interesting point, Rik, I've never really thought of that. :)

I remember being impressed by 1.44MB floppy disks, so I'm sure that one day there'll be something even more amazing that this, which at this time is difficult to believe.
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Lance on Apr 20, 2008, 16:57:50
Something which writes/reads quicker would be nice!
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Rik on Apr 20, 2008, 17:06:38
It's happening all the time, Lance. The latest generation of cards are way faster (and cheaper) than the first. With IBM working on their new storage technology, expect the terrabyte SD card in the next couple of years...
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Lance on Apr 20, 2008, 17:09:34
Once they are a bit faster, solid state hard drives will be much more practical!
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Cookiemonster on Apr 20, 2008, 17:10:46
Expensive things aren't they!
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Rik on Apr 20, 2008, 17:14:18
For now. My first CD player a 1x affair, complete with SCSI interface, cost over £200. My first 10MB HD cost £300. My first packet of floppies (5.25", 160K) cost £36, 32K of RAM cost about £60...
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Lance on Apr 20, 2008, 17:16:41
In 10 years time, when we are all using multiple terabyte disks, we'll laugh at the prices of today's 500gig ones!
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Rik on Apr 20, 2008, 17:17:46
Not to mention the 16-core, 22GHz processors...
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Noreen on Apr 20, 2008, 17:18:37
http://technology.newscientist.com/channel/tech/dn13426-quantum-dot-memory-may-be-holy-grail-of-computing.html
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Rik on Apr 20, 2008, 17:21:11
With the commercial interest, you can pretty much guarantee the technology making it out of the labs, Noreen. In one respect, I'd like to live another 100 years, just to see how things develop.
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Lance on Apr 20, 2008, 18:32:11
And then another 100 years after that, and again, and again, and again!
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Rik on Apr 20, 2008, 18:34:08
I know. We'll never see it all, but it would be nice to be able to do so.
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Lance on Apr 20, 2008, 18:39:05
Indeed. It would be good to see a national fibre network within my time!
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Rik on Apr 20, 2008, 18:42:26
You stand a chance - I don't think I do. :)
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Lance on Apr 20, 2008, 18:53:23
I don't know. I think that once they have started it will all be done quite quickly. It's just the getting started that is the problem!
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Rik on Apr 20, 2008, 18:55:28
Well, if Ofcom were to be abolished, it would be a start - in more ways than one. :)
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Cookiemonster on Apr 20, 2008, 18:57:00
 :iagree:
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Lance on Apr 20, 2008, 18:58:13
Getting rid of the uso would be another good thing. All the money saved from no longer having to operate loss making phone-boxes could be ploughed into fibre.
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Rik on Apr 20, 2008, 18:59:48
The only risk there is that some people would no longer be able to get a phone line installed. Certainly, phone boxes could go though.
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Lance on Apr 20, 2008, 19:02:53
Maybe a new, much more relaxed uso then? Get rid of the phone boxes, but keep the inportant things. BT would agree because its better than they currently have.
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Rik on Apr 20, 2008, 19:06:31
I think so. Include broadband in the USO, with certain exceptions, eg physical distance to the exchange. Abandon phone boxes except where a local authority wants one and will fully subsidise it. Scrap the Openreach 'separation' and reduce costs. Forget the limitation on BT's charging scheme, which only benefits the few.
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Lance on Apr 20, 2008, 19:11:52
This is the sort of things ofcom executives get paid thousands of pounds to think of!
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Rik on Apr 20, 2008, 19:12:44
Yeah, and most of their ideas work against the consumer.  >:(
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Niall on Apr 21, 2008, 20:42:14
Quote from: Rik on Apr 20, 2008, 17:14:18
For now. My first CD player a 1x affair, complete with SCSI interface, cost over £200. My first 10MB HD cost £300. My first packet of floppies (5.25", 160K) cost £36, 32K of RAM cost about £60...

I remember when x16 Plextor CD writers came out. I paid over £200 for mine and that was nearly £100 cheaper. Computer fairs used to be brilliant :)
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: bob_s on Apr 21, 2008, 21:42:35
I can see in a few short years, PCs being made without a single moving part as standard.  With the flash memory getting better, and the growing move to lower power usage and climate change.
A well designed PC, good heat sinks as part of the chassis, no fans, no hard drive.  Perfectly quiet, cheap to run and more than the average office or home user needs.  I know these exist now, but they are still not mainstream.
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Rik on Apr 22, 2008, 09:22:43
I agree with you, Bob. The move to reduce moving parts is inevitable and highly desirable. In part, I suspect it will be driven by the desire to make the PC the entertainment centre.
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: pup on Apr 22, 2008, 09:24:45
Quote from: Lance on Apr 20, 2008, 17:09:34
Once they are a bit faster, solid state hard drives will be much more practical!

:grn:
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Sebby on Apr 22, 2008, 13:17:32
Quote from: Rik on Apr 22, 2008, 09:22:43
In part, I suspect it will be driven by the desire to make the PC the entertainment centre.

I look forward to the day when this is the norm. I know it's possible at the moment, but I can't help but feel it's too much of a hassle.
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Rik on Apr 22, 2008, 14:06:29
It is right now, Sebby, but I'm certain the solid-state HD is not far away.
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: kinmel on Apr 22, 2008, 16:23:12
My media pc is very similar to this this setup (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Complete-Epia-mini-itx-1GHz-media-server-system-LINUX_W0QQitemZ270229288448QQihZ017QQcategoryZ179QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) , the OS is on the flashdrive and instead of a hard drive it pulls data off the network from another pc.  No fans at all and no moving parts, so it is completely silent.

Using an adaptor plate it is bolted to the VESA fixings on the back of the lounge LCD TV
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: Rik on Apr 22, 2008, 16:30:22
Eventually, we'll all be handling our entertainment this way, with a media server to handle supply to the whole house. If we could get fibre to the home, other forms of TV distribution could be abolished.
Title: Re: Technology is wonderful.
Post by: john on Apr 23, 2008, 00:54:47
The trouble with fibre like the copper wiring before it is that it has to be run to every location that people want to use it. A wireless solution would be better but I don't think existing systems are up to high bandwidth mass communication of data for a while yet.

At the moment I'd just like everything to work as it should and I think solid state devices will mean more reliability.