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Title: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: mistybear on Apr 16, 2008, 13:45:42
BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands.

LINK (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/14/bt_phorm_2007/)
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 16, 2008, 13:47:07
Yep - wonder how they are gonna twist and turn out of that one  ;)

no doubt some "favours" will be called in to get them off the hook  >:(
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Malc on Apr 16, 2008, 13:49:18
 :rofl:

Love the video with the large reel of wire
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Rik on Apr 16, 2008, 15:33:08
You know, despite all this publicity, my betting is that the vast majority of customers will tamely opt in if Phorm launches. :(
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 16, 2008, 16:14:00
All depends on how cleverly they market it Rik
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Rik on Apr 16, 2008, 16:16:35
I don't think they will need to be that clever, Mad, look at how many customers the big ISPs have. They all signed up on medium term contracts without, in the main, reading the small print. I suspect they will opt in to Phorm with the same gay abandon.
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 16, 2008, 16:57:49
Unfortunately, you're probably right  :(
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: somanyholes on Apr 18, 2008, 07:35:52
the page listed here http://vancouver.cs.washington.edu/ attempts to check to see if you are getting adverts injected into your pages, interesting read.
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Rik on Apr 18, 2008, 09:06:50
Nice find, So. :)  :thumb: :karmic:
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Tacitus on Apr 18, 2008, 09:56:11
Quote from: Rik on Apr 18, 2008, 09:06:50
Nice find, So. :)  :thumb: :karmic:

Likewise!  One of the strange things about all this is how quiet our elected representatives have been.  Apart from Don Foster the LibDem MP, everyone else seems to be keeping their heads down. 

I note that one of the posters on the topic over on TBB insists this is nothing more than Google are doing and, as Phorm have said they are not collecting any personal information it's all ok.  Given that he is, or judging from other posts appears to be, one of the more tech savvy people, what hope is there for the rest?  Lambs and slaughter come to mind...
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Rik on Apr 18, 2008, 09:59:32
Baah. ;D

I agree - people seem to be reacting to this the same way they did to the announcement of the abolition of the 10p tax band a year ago. :(
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Malc on Apr 18, 2008, 10:00:13
Heads in the sand...
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 18, 2008, 14:14:38
Well, according to this (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/17/ripa_phorm_shambles/) nobody seems to want to do anything about it.

Strange how law enforcement agencies (the peeps who are supposed to be there to protect us) can't do this, yet almost anyone else can  :mad:
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 18, 2008, 14:17:02
Quote from: somanyholes on Apr 18, 2008, 07:35:52
the page listed here http://vancouver.cs.washington.edu/ attempts to check to see if you are getting adverts injected into your pages, interesting read.

interesting site mate  :thumb:
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Rik on Apr 18, 2008, 14:30:44
Quote from: madasahatter on Apr 18, 2008, 14:14:38
Strange how law enforcement agencies (the peeps who are supposed to be there to protect us) can't do this, yet almost anyone else can  :mad:

It's curious how the Govt doesn't want to be involved, yet is asking ISPs to track down illegal file sharers. Could the two issues be related, I wonder?  :rant2:
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: mistybear on Apr 18, 2008, 16:27:41
Do I smell a conspiracy. :eyebrow:
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Rik on Apr 18, 2008, 16:35:55
Probably, MB, all is not well in the State of Denmark. :)
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: mistybear on Apr 18, 2008, 16:39:00
I heard it was one of the best countries in the world to live in, you've shattered my illusions.  :bawl:
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Rik on Apr 18, 2008, 16:40:23
The bacon is good. :)
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: mistybear on Apr 18, 2008, 16:42:26
Shame, I'm a vegetarian.
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Inactive on Apr 18, 2008, 16:46:47
 :pig:

Certainly one of the most expensive.. ;)
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Rik on Apr 18, 2008, 16:49:13
I still prefer Ayrshire myself. :)
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Malc on Apr 18, 2008, 18:57:48
Quote from: Rik on Apr 18, 2008, 16:40:23
The bacon is good. :)


Careful, you'll have 'em round, what with Danish Cartoons as well.  ;)
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Rik on Apr 18, 2008, 18:58:27
A round of bacon butties with cartoons. Bliss. :)
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Malc on Apr 18, 2008, 18:59:33
I'm too close to Pakist.., I mean Bolton to laugh.
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: somanyholes on Apr 22, 2008, 13:54:51
you have to laugh, http://www.darkreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=151497&WT.svl=news1_2

not only will be pimp your data, we will also put you at risk. but of course, it's not our fault.....
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Rik on Apr 22, 2008, 14:52:43
Pure joy, So. Thankfully, not something we should experience here.
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Inactive on Apr 22, 2008, 16:42:13
I read somewhere that a few of the Anti Virus Companies are considering treating it as a virus.. ;)
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Rik on Apr 22, 2008, 16:48:36
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7359024.stm
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 22, 2008, 17:02:13
Great news  :thumb:

After all, the anti spyware software would be doing nothing but what it says it does - detects and gets rid of spyware.  ;D
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: kinmel on Apr 22, 2008, 19:45:13
As you would expect, there is now a Firefox Add-on (http://www.dephormation.org.uk/firefox2.html) to beat Phorm.  :thumb:

Although it will not affect us with IDNet, I am sure we all know sad souls lost at BT etc who will benefit from this.
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 23, 2008, 00:47:25
Quote from: kinmel on Apr 22, 2008, 19:45:13
As you would expect, there is now a Firefox Add-on (http://www.dephormation.org.uk/firefox2.html) to beat Phorm.  :thumb:

Although it will not affect us with IDNet, I am sure we all know sad souls lost at BT etc who will benefit from this.

that's brilliant - anything against Phorm is good in my book  :thumb:
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 08:49:37
QuoteAs you would expect, there is now a Firefox Add-on to beat Phorm.  Thumbs up

Although it will not affect us with IDNet, I am sure we all know sad souls lost at BT etc who will benefit from this.


karmic for that find mate, will give that to some friends :)

Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Rik on Apr 23, 2008, 08:53:33
Great find, Alan.  :thumb:
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 23, 2008, 08:58:11
Quote from: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 08:49:37
will give that to some friends :)

Didn't realise you had any   :whistle:
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 09:04:51
the list just got shorter  :angel:

only kidding mate
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 23, 2008, 09:06:34
Quote from: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 09:04:51
the list just got shorter  :angel:

:lol:
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Malc on Apr 23, 2008, 09:08:18
It looks like Danni and Colin have competition.  :whistle:
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 23, 2008, 09:10:06
Now now Malc - you know me and Jerry were here first - Colin and Danni are mere usurpers  ;D
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Rik on Apr 23, 2008, 09:11:11
That's a new name for it... ;D :out:
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Malc on Apr 23, 2008, 09:13:18
All together...

Groove and Jerry sitting on a log....
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 23, 2008, 09:14:15
Quote from: Malc on Apr 23, 2008, 09:13:18
All together...

Groove and Jerry sitting on a log....

:rofl:

Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 09:16:54
QuoteAll together...

Groove and Jerry sitting on a log....


jerry is now hiding in the log, covering his ears with his hat  ;D
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Inactive on Apr 23, 2008, 09:21:30
Quote from: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 09:16:54

jerry is now hiding in the log, covering his ears with his hat  ;D

That would be a hat trick then..  ;)
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Rik on Apr 23, 2008, 09:27:11
:grn:
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 23, 2008, 09:27:56
Thanks Rik - saved me the bother  :)
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 23, 2008, 09:54:38
Quote from: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 09:16:54

jerry is now hiding in the log, covering his ears with his hat  ;D

Tom seals both ends of the log up so Jerry can't get out  >:D
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Malc on Apr 23, 2008, 09:56:24
Malc turns on the shredder
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 23, 2008, 10:01:04
Yayyyyyy

hoobs 1 - mouses 0

:hehe:
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 10:10:46
how you two got on childrens tv, i really don't know, then again, tom and jerry seemed to do it.
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Rik on Apr 23, 2008, 10:13:07
It's all about belonging, So. ;) :out:
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Malc on Apr 23, 2008, 10:17:10
Quote from: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 10:10:46
how you two got on childrens tv, i really don't know,


Neither do I  ;)
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 23, 2008, 10:26:09
Quote from: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 10:10:46
how you two got on childrens tv, i really don't know, then again, tom and jerry seemed to do it.

Cos we're cute and cuddly  ;D
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 10:39:07
deceptive con artists you two....
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 23, 2008, 11:06:27
Quote from: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 10:39:07
deceptive con artists you two....

Do I detect a hint of jealousy creeping in here ?  :whistle:  :out:
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Inactive on Apr 23, 2008, 12:52:50
Ignore them So, they just want to rule the world..  ;D ;D
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 12:59:59
i now have a vison of them both sitting on a log singing, if i ruled the world , arghhh.
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Malc on Apr 23, 2008, 13:05:17
Quote from: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 12:59:59
i now have a vison of them both sitting on a log singing, if i ruled the world , arghhh.


;D

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k295/jjoneswalker/UT/UT%20Orientation%20July%2010-13/079sittingonalog.jpg)
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 13:45:12
grooves in a compromising position as usual.... :)
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Malc on Apr 23, 2008, 13:46:09
Quote from: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 13:45:12
grooves in a compromising position as usual.... :)

:rofl:

Quick, push him off the log while he's not looking.  :thumb:
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 23, 2008, 13:57:26
Quote from: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 13:45:12
grooves in a compromising position as usual.... :)

:rofl:

There is no need to let everyone know what I'm like mate  ;)

They all think I'm a cute, cuddly, shy and quiet hoob, and I'd rather it stay that way  ;D
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Inactive on Apr 23, 2008, 13:58:36
Looks like they are about to make ash trays to me. ;)
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 14:00:28
QuoteLooks like they are about to make ash trays to me

wishful thinking  >:D
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Malc on Apr 23, 2008, 14:01:19
Quote from: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 14:00:28
wishful thinking  >:D

  ;D
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 23, 2008, 14:04:53
Quote from: somanyholes on Apr 23, 2008, 14:00:28
wishful thinking  >:D

Don't think mate - it's dangerous when you do  :eek4: :whistle:
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 24, 2008, 15:16:42
FIPR open letter to Home Secretary here (http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.shtml#EkpApuEkAVKDhafvjL)
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Inactive on Apr 24, 2008, 15:26:16
Nice find Mad, shame the Home Secretary will not be capable of digesting the info. ;)
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Rik on Apr 24, 2008, 15:26:57
I doubt that she will be greatly moved. :(
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 24, 2008, 19:41:21
Quote from: Rik on Apr 24, 2008, 15:26:57
I doubt that she will be greatly moved. :(

Me neither - listening to the truth and some common sense is pretty much alien to this lot  >:D
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: Rik on Apr 24, 2008, 19:46:26
Or any lot once they're in power, Mad. :(
Title: Re: BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 24, 2008, 19:52:40
Unfortunately true  :(