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Title: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Apr 08, 2008, 00:42:00
Name Speed Support Reliability Price

IDNet
     
going downhill fast, speed drops off dramatically in the evening and p2p being throttled now... better start looking elsewhere



Not what we usually see at all  ???

James
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Inactive on Apr 08, 2008, 00:53:45
Just read that myself coincidentally, he/she must be with a different IDNet to the one that I am with. ;)
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Lance on Apr 08, 2008, 07:37:17
My p2p certainly isn't being throttled and my speed stays constant all day long (so even BT are performing on my exchange!). LIke In' says, it must be a different IDNet!
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: kinmel on Apr 08, 2008, 07:55:12
The problem is that some people are having problems and we have seen some blame thier ISP when it is possibly caused by BTs upgrade programme or exchange contention.

BTW are not stupid when they insist that all complaints are dealt with through your ISP.
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Rik on Apr 08, 2008, 08:38:01
BT were very clever with their business model, the ISPs take all the flak (in some cased with just cause) and most people don't understand where the problems are occurring. If we are to have a decent level of service in the UK, BT are going to have to be forced to give an SLA on broadband which actually promises broadband. Given Ofcom's inability to work out whether it's day or night, I don't see that happening any time soon. :(
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Sebby on Apr 08, 2008, 09:03:35
It'll just be an irate customer who has had speed problems of late Speeds don't drop off in the evening; it can be any time of day, which seems to suggest it's not an IDNet capacity issue. P2P is certainly not being throttled, either.
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: somanyholes on Apr 08, 2008, 09:22:43
perhaps they should read this article and test

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9389/Is+My+ISP+Throttling+BitTorrent%3F+Test+Your+Connection+Online
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Rik on Apr 08, 2008, 09:24:12
Good link, So.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: somanyholes on Apr 08, 2008, 09:41:37
idnet result

Test your broadband link: ISP BitTorrent traffic manipulation
Results for your host ():
Is BitTorrent traffic on a well-known BitTorrent port (6881) throttled?

* The BitTorrent upload (seeding) worked. Our tool was successful in uploading data using the BitTorrent protocol.

* There's no indication that your ISP rate limits your BitTorrent uploads. In our tests a TCP upload achieved minimal 695 Kbps while a BitTorrent upload achieved maximal 636 Kbps. You can find details here.

* The BitTorrent download worked. Our tool was successful in downloading data using the BitTorrent protocol.

* There's no indication that your ISP rate limits your BitTorrent downloads. In our tests a TCP download achieved minimal 5412 Kbps while a BitTorrent download achieved maximal 2922 Kbps. You can find details here.


Is BitTorrent traffic on a non-standard BitTorrent port (4711) throttled?

* The BitTorrent upload (seeding) worked. Our tool was successful in uploading data using the BitTorrent protocol.

* There's no indication that your ISP rate limits your BitTorrent uploads. In our tests a TCP download achieved minimal 695 Kbps while a BitTorrent download achieved maximal 637 Kbps. You can find details here.

* The BitTorrent download worked. Our tool was successful in downloading data using the BitTorrent protocol.

* Your ISP possibly rate limits your BitTorrent downloads. In our tests a TCP download achieved minimal 5646 Kbps while a BitTorrent download achieved maximal 2821 Kbps. You can find details here.


Is TCP traffic on a well-known BitTorrent port (6881) throttled?

* There's no indication that your ISP rate limits all downloads at port 6881. In our test, a TCP download on a BitTorrent port achieved at least 5412 Kbps while a TCP download on a non-BitTorrent port achieved at least 5646 Kbps. You can find details here.

* There's no indication that your ISP rate limits all uploads at port 6881. In our test, a TCP upload on a BitTorrent port achieved at least 695 Kbps while a TCP upload on a non-BitTorrent port achieved at least 695 Kbps. You can find details here.

Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: somanyholes on Apr 08, 2008, 09:42:27
just posted my ip then eeek
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: somanyholes on Apr 08, 2008, 09:44:16
Is BitTorrent traffic on a non-standard BitTorrent port (4711) throttled?

* Completed BitTorrent and TCP transfers using the non-BitTorrent port 4711:

Transfer    Speed TCP    Speed BitTorrent    Conclusion
Download #0    5646 Kbps    2821 Kbps    Potential rate limiting
Download #1    5664 Kbps    2821 Kbps    Potential rate limiting
Upload #0    695 Kbps    637 Kbps    No rate limiting
Upload #1    696 Kbps    635 Kbps    No rate limiting


ummm... strange it's 50%
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: somanyholes on Apr 08, 2008, 09:47:34
anyone else able to upload other results ....
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 08, 2008, 09:50:17
weird that it only seems to be non standard ports affected  ???
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: somanyholes on Apr 08, 2008, 10:00:25
no problems second time,  :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Malc on Apr 08, 2008, 10:03:19
I had no probs last night  ???
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Inactive on Apr 08, 2008, 10:09:15
Quote from: Malc on Apr 08, 2008, 10:03:19
I had no probs last night  ???
:rofl:

:tmi: Malc.. We don't wish to know that. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Gary on Apr 08, 2008, 10:09:55
Quote from: Inactive on Apr 08, 2008, 10:09:15
:rofl:

:tmi: Malc.. We don't wish to know that. ;D ;D
:rofl: :karmic:
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 08, 2008, 11:41:03
Quote from: somanyholes on Apr 08, 2008, 10:00:25
no problems second time,  :eyebrow:

That damn mouse just loves causing trouble - would anyone care for a hoobyhammer?

we will be passing among you handing them out to anyone who wants one  >:D :whistle: ;D
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Malc on Apr 08, 2008, 11:46:02
Quote from: madasahatter on Apr 08, 2008, 11:41:03
That damn mouse just loves causing trouble - would anyone care for a hoobyhammer?

we will be passing among you handing them out to anyone who wants one  >:D :whistle: ;D

I'll have a purple one  ;D
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 08, 2008, 11:54:02
thought you'd already got a purple one - or are you still using your blue one?  :)
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: kinmel on Apr 08, 2008, 12:27:44
My result at 12.25 today was.................


Is BitTorrent traffic on a well-known BitTorrent port (6881) throttled?

* The BitTorrent upload (seeding) worked. Our tool was successful in uploading data using the BitTorrent protocol.

* There's no indication that your ISP rate limits your BitTorrent uploads. In our tests a TCP upload achieved minimal 366 Kbps while a BitTorrent upload achieved maximal 314 Kbps. You can find details here.

* The BitTorrent download worked. Our tool was successful in downloading data using the BitTorrent protocol.

* There's no indication that your ISP rate limits your BitTorrent downloads. In our tests a TCP download achieved minimal 3017 Kbps while a BitTorrent download achieved maximal 2628 Kbps. You can find details here.


Is BitTorrent traffic on a non-standard BitTorrent port (4711) throttled?

* The BitTorrent upload (seeding) worked. Our tool was successful in uploading data using the BitTorrent protocol.

* There's no indication that your ISP rate limits your BitTorrent uploads. In our tests a TCP download achieved minimal 366 Kbps while a BitTorrent download achieved maximal 314 Kbps. You can find details here.

* The BitTorrent download worked. Our tool was successful in downloading data using the BitTorrent protocol.

* There's no indication that your ISP rate limits your BitTorrent downloads. In our tests a TCP download achieved minimal 3068 Kbps while a BitTorrent download achieved maximal 2729 Kbps. You can find details here.


Is TCP traffic on a well-known BitTorrent port (6881) throttled?

* There's no indication that your ISP rate limits all downloads at port 6881. In our test, a TCP download on a BitTorrent port achieved at least 3017 Kbps while a TCP download on a non-BitTorrent port achieved at least 3068 Kbps. You can find details here.

* There's no indication that your ISP rate limits all uploads at port 6881. In our test, a TCP upload on a BitTorrent port achieved at least 366 Kbps while a TCP upload on a non-BitTorrent port achieved at least 366 Kbps. You can find details here.


Detailed Output (http://139.19.152.16/bb/bt.php?btport=6881&port2=4711&tcpdown=3017495;3176220&btdown=2628007;2625982&tcpup=366611;366616&btup=314581;314869&tcpdown2=3068528;3292198&btdown2=2729084;2628007&tcpup2=366592;366569&btup2=314883;314914&details=yes&)
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Malc on Apr 08, 2008, 12:38:49
Quote from: madasahatter on Apr 08, 2008, 11:54:02
thought you'd already got a purple one - or are you still using your blue one?  :)


Still got the standard issue blue one, I'll pass that onto Colin as soon as I het my purple one  ;D
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: somanyholes on Apr 08, 2008, 12:42:30
must have been a blip.....
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 08, 2008, 12:42:40
OK - on it's way malc  ;)
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 08, 2008, 12:43:23
Quote from: somanyholes on Apr 08, 2008, 12:42:30
must have been a blip.....

What's he got to do with it?  ;)
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: somanyholes on Apr 08, 2008, 12:46:57
everything, blip blip blip, here comes the submarine ...
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Rik on Apr 08, 2008, 12:49:17
He was one m short of being a colonel. :)
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: cavillas on Apr 08, 2008, 14:21:35
blip.... blip.... blip.... blip.... blip.... blip.... blip.... Nut kernal. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: cavillas on Apr 08, 2008, 14:47:12
Quote from: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Apr 08, 2008, 00:42:00
Name Speed Support Reliability Price

IDNet
     
going downhill fast, speed drops off dramatically in the evening and p2p being throttled now... better start looking elsewhere


Isn't that libellous? :no:



Edit: Quote sorted
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Rik on Apr 08, 2008, 14:59:39
No, it's given as an opinion, Alf, so the only actionable aspect, I suspect, is the assertion the P2P is being throttled.
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: madasahatter on Apr 08, 2008, 15:24:10
Quote from: somanyholes on Apr 08, 2008, 12:46:57
everything, blip blip blip, here comes the submarine ...

:rofl:

what about a whisky?  ;)
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: cavillas on Apr 08, 2008, 16:15:39
Quote from: Rik on Apr 08, 2008, 14:59:39
No, it's given as an opinion, Alf, so the only actionable aspect, I suspect, is the assertion the P2P is being throttled.

Lets sue him/her anyway, just for the fun. >:D
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Rik on Apr 08, 2008, 16:16:48
OK, will you hold him while I hit him or vice versa?  ;D
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: cavillas on Apr 08, 2008, 16:25:15
I can sit on him  ;D
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Rik on Apr 08, 2008, 16:38:37
If I sit on him it will save any need for violence.  >:D
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: cavillas on Apr 08, 2008, 16:44:52
I'm bigger than you, so I should sit on him. :solved: :food: :choc: :food2: :fridge:
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Rik on Apr 08, 2008, 16:58:22
We'll both sit on him, Alf. That will make us a press gang... :grn: :out:
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Danni on Apr 08, 2008, 17:08:37
/me giggles.

I have an old CRT monitor that doesn't work properly. Can I throw it at him?
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Rik on Apr 08, 2008, 17:10:02
Only if you promise to miss Alf and me. :)
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Danni on Apr 08, 2008, 17:10:53
Humm... maybe I should get Colin to throw it then. My sense of direction isn't great.

Unless I throw it at him and then you sit on him?
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Rik on Apr 08, 2008, 17:12:04
Sounds like a plan, Danni. :)
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: cavillas on Apr 08, 2008, 17:15:03
Quote from: Rik on Apr 08, 2008, 16:58:22
We'll both sit on him, Alf. That will make us a press gang...


Yo HO HO   Hic! :getwell: :evilb: :evilb: :tongue:

Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: David on Apr 12, 2008, 11:48:57
Still think it was a sprurious posting

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Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Simon on Apr 12, 2008, 13:41:35
I think it was more posted in ignorance than anything.  Got a problem but don't know how to fix it (can't be bothered to research), so blame the ISP.  I hope they find someone else, and are happy there!
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: David on Apr 12, 2008, 13:57:45
Could try my old provider Simon.Love to read a review from this person on the big T  :)
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Sebby on Apr 12, 2008, 13:59:27
Quote from: Simon on Apr 12, 2008, 13:41:35
I think it was more posted in ignorance than anything.  Got a problem but don't know how to fix it (can't be bothered to research), so blame the ISP.  I hope they find someone else, and are happy there!

Broadband is a difficult one, because so much of the time it's very difficult to see where the problem lies, be it with the user's equipment, BT, or the ISP.
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: cavillas on Apr 12, 2008, 14:25:19
Or the user
Title: Re: Bizarre and Uncharacteristic Idnet review at Dslzoneuk
Post by: Sebby on Apr 12, 2008, 14:37:11
This isn't isolated to a single user, Alf. It happens on the time, and understandably so.