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Title: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Sebby on Mar 22, 2008, 00:47:48
Over the last week, my 2700 has been acting a bit strange, and I can't help but think it might be on its way out.

Every so often, websites appear to stop responding. If I try to access the router, it tries to load but never succeeds.

I've actually been forced to reboot a couple times, which seems to sort it, but the problem re-surfaces. I thought heat might be a problem, but it's very well ventilated (on its side) and is by a window that isn't exactly draft-free!

If it dies, it will only be £9 spent, plus I have another on that DD sent (although I seem to remember it sync'd very slowly when I tried it, but I can always explore this issue at a later date). If both are no good, it will be an excuse to get a shiny new one. ;D
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Simon on Mar 22, 2008, 01:41:57
I thought mine was on it's way as well last night, as I lost wireless connectivity again, but when I switched off the ethernet connected PC, it came back.  I'm sure I've had the two working together before.   :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Rik on Mar 22, 2008, 08:56:32
Try changing the wireless channel to 1, Simon - that worked for me.
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 22, 2008, 10:54:54
I set mine flat on the lil rubber feet it has , I take it this wont do it any harm ? If it does, where can you get the dedicated stand for it to sit vertically ?

James
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Rik on Mar 22, 2008, 10:57:11
I got the stand with mine, James. It runs cooler on it's side, but if you don't have a stand, pick up some feet from Maplins or B&Q and try to raise it by 1cm or so.
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Sebby on Mar 22, 2008, 10:57:29
I was never able to find a seller of the official stand, James, so I just have it sitting on its side. Rubber feet are fine (in fact, a good thing to allow better air flow). :)
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Simon on Mar 22, 2008, 14:42:38
Quote from: Rik on Mar 22, 2008, 08:56:32
Try changing the wireless channel to 1, Simon - that worked for me.

If it happens again, I will, Rik.  :)
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Sebby on Mar 24, 2008, 16:19:19
I just tried the replacement 2700 that I got from DigiDave some months back. When I originally tried this replacement router, I found that it sync'd significantly lower than the first, so I just stuck it in a cupboard and used the first 2700 I was sent (I just ignored the LED!).

As I think the 2700 I'm using may be dying, I thought I'd give the other one a try. It didn't sync low this time, but it sync'd, then lost sync and re-sync'd, so I'm sure there's something not quite right with it. It's going in the bin (unless someone wants it to have a play with for the price of postage).

So, I'll see how I get on over the next week, and if it's still playing up, I'll get myself a nice BT Business Hub. 8)
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Sebby on Mar 24, 2008, 16:23:23
Incidentally, the 2Wire continues to amaze me. It's just sync'd at 5,152k putting me in the 4,500k profile band. Usually it sync's at about 4.6Mb, and my previous SpeedTouch 585v6 - which is a very decent router - struggled to even get that!
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Rik on Mar 24, 2008, 16:24:50
Quote from: Sebby on Mar 24, 2008, 16:19:19
So, I'll see how I get on over the next week, and if it's still playing up, I'll get myself a nice BT Business Hub. 8)

You mean a £90 one from BT, Sebby?  :o
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Sebby on Mar 24, 2008, 16:30:09
Not from BT, from eBay. I'd never pay £90 for a router, especially not from BT. :P

There's loads on there; a lot of BT Business Broadband customers obviously don't want them, so they be had for under £20 delivered. ;)
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Rik on Mar 24, 2008, 16:32:36
You had me worried there for a moment, Sebby. :)
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Sebby on Mar 24, 2008, 16:34:35
 :hehe:

I hope my single SSID 2700 isn't dying, because I love this router. But I'd be reluctant to get another one as I think problems are common.
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Rik on Mar 24, 2008, 16:44:40
It's hard to judge the reliability of the 2700 as they are all second-hand. When they work though...  :thumb:
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Sebby on Mar 24, 2008, 17:14:50
Indeed. I suppose what I should say is I won't be buying second-hand again. :)
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Rik on Mar 24, 2008, 17:18:41
Can we guarantee any are truly new, though, given the supply chain?
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Sebby on Mar 24, 2008, 17:21:17
Not the single SSID models, I don't think, but it's possible to get brand new dual SSID ones.
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Rik on Mar 24, 2008, 17:22:16
Don't they still reach eBay via BT customers who don't want them, though?
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: kinmel on Mar 24, 2008, 17:54:12
Quote from: Sebby on Mar 24, 2008, 17:21:17
Not the single SSID models, I don't think, but it's possible to get brand new dual SSID ones.

I have had 4 off Ebay that were still completely unopened, many small offices already have their networks up and running when they change over to BT and so never even open the box the free router came in.

I find that the "Buy it Now" sellers are usually selling used, or at least tested routers.

It now appears that when a Dual SSID router has been re-booted more than 10 times and is using a non BT username , it changes it's provisioning info to a default setting.

The router thereafter fails to connect to the BT provisioning servers and seems happy enough to carry on abandoned.

Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Rik on Mar 24, 2008, 17:55:11
Useful to know, Alan. Thanks.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: sobranie on Mar 24, 2008, 19:10:58
Quote from: Sebby on Mar 24, 2008, 17:21:17
Not the single SSID models, I don't think, but it's possible to get brand new dual SSID ones.

Mine's a single (brand spanking new) and works a treat synching @7150
Only thing, I had to pay just under £40 for it (inc postage).

See seller here but check that it's a single 1st and is brand new of course.

http://search.stores.ebay.co.uk/Regenukltd_2700_W0QQfciZQ2d1QQfclZ3QQfsnZRegenukltdQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsaselZ92848699QQsofpZ0


Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Sebby on Mar 24, 2008, 19:47:08
Quote from: Rik on Mar 24, 2008, 17:22:16
Don't they still reach eBay via BT customers who don't want them, though?

That's true, but a lot of them are sealed so much be brand new. :)
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Rik on Mar 24, 2008, 19:49:15
Mazing what you can do with a bit of cling film. ;)
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: madasahatter on Mar 24, 2008, 19:50:55
This may be a very dumb question, but can you get wireless 2700s?

Edit Scrap that incredibly dumb question - I can see in other threads that you can  :-[
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Sebby on Mar 24, 2008, 19:53:05
Quote from: Rik on Mar 24, 2008, 19:49:15
Mazing what you can do with a bit of cling film. ;)

Sceptic. :laugh:
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Rik on Mar 24, 2008, 19:53:48
Quote from: madasahatter on Mar 24, 2008, 19:50:55
This may be a very dumb question, but can you get wireless 2700s?

They all are, Mad, though you can disable that, or the USB, interface.
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Rik on Mar 24, 2008, 19:54:11
Quote from: Sebby on Mar 24, 2008, 19:53:05
Sceptic. :laugh:

Cynic. ;)
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Sebby on Mar 24, 2008, 19:54:54
That's the word I was thinking of. :blush: ;D
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Rik on Mar 24, 2008, 19:56:01
Either would be true, though, just call me Thomas. :)
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Sebby on Mar 24, 2008, 19:56:45
:lol:
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: madasahatter on Mar 24, 2008, 19:57:21
Quote from: Rik on Mar 24, 2008, 19:53:48
They all are, Mad, though you can disable that, or the USB, interface.

Right - if I got one I would want to use that - is there any specific wireless adaptor/card that is needed?
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Rik on Mar 24, 2008, 19:57:52
No, it's a standard 11g router, Mad.
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: madasahatter on Mar 24, 2008, 19:58:28
Cheers Rik  :think:
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: g7pkf on Mar 25, 2008, 19:49:11
Quote from: Sebby on Mar 24, 2008, 16:19:19
I just tried the replacement 2700 that I got from DigiDave some months back. When I originally tried this replacement router, I found that it sync'd significantly lower than the first, so I just stuck it in a cupboard and used the first 2700 I was sent (I just ignored the LED!).

As I think the 2700 I'm using may be dying, I thought I'd give the other one a try. It didn't sync low this time, but it sync'd, then lost sync and re-sync'd, so I'm sure there's something not quite right with it. It's going in the bin (unless someone wants it to have a play with for the price of postage).

So, I'll see how I get on over the next week, and if it's still playing up, I'll get myself a nice BT Business Hub. 8)



um ill have it for the cost of postage? want to "play" properly with one that doesnt matter if i totally naf it.

dean AKA G7PKF
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Sebby on Mar 25, 2008, 21:34:57
Quote from: g7pkf on Mar 25, 2008, 19:49:11

um ill have it for the cost of postage? want to "play" properly with one that doesnt matter if i totally naf it.

dean AKA G7PKF

I've sent you a PM. :)
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Sebby on Mar 25, 2008, 23:08:49
Just a little update; everything seems okay tonight. Last night, I thought I'd flush the DNS resolver cache, and that seems to have sorted it. I'm not entirely convinced it's permanently fixed; after all, during the periods of non-responsiveness, even the router wasn't responding via its IP address. But we shall see... :)
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Gary on Mar 26, 2008, 08:23:29
I had issues in the end with the wireless range of 2700 and on setting 1 some devices would not connect on a dual SSID version for me, the Netgear did not drop connection nearly as much, but the 2700 never had any reboot issues and never had browsing issues, trouble for me was It messed with my home network and some applications, I am not adept at port forwarding and many of my utilities use upnp (the netgear DG834G does not allow dns servers to be changed via upnp so I'm not worried about its potential downfalls, and I need that feature.

If you think about how any times you may buy a new 2700 off fleabay if the second hand ones fail a lot it, maybe worth spending £90, then you have a guarantee if issues occur and can get service repairs and replacements and new firmware updates for the unit and the firewall.
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Sebby on Apr 14, 2008, 23:56:19
As most of you probably know, I bought a new 2700HGV off of eBay (dual SSID) the other day. Typically, my current 2700 is behaving absolutely fine today. I'm now hoping that it starts to misbehave again, just so it doesn't feel like a waste that I bought a new router. >:D
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Inactive on Apr 15, 2008, 00:00:03
Sod's Law Seb ..  ;)
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Sebby on Apr 15, 2008, 00:00:46
 :bawl:
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Simon on Apr 15, 2008, 10:53:13
I've just spent nearly £500 on a PC upgrade, so you can bet my old one will be running sweet as a nut now!   :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Rik on Apr 15, 2008, 10:57:59
Now about the 24" w/s monitor, Simon...  >:D
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Simon on Apr 15, 2008, 11:03:36
Nope, keeping my old (well, only 1½ years old) Xerox 17", which is perfectly good enough for me.  :)
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Rik on Apr 15, 2008, 11:05:01
You'd love one really, Simon, you can watch two forums side by side. ;)
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Simon on Apr 15, 2008, 11:06:15
:argh:  I already go to sleep seeing them!
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Rik on Apr 15, 2008, 11:07:41
I just find myself writing replies in my sleep...

That's during the day, of course. ;D
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: g7pkf on Apr 15, 2008, 22:07:26
Quote from: Sebby on Apr 14, 2008, 23:56:19
As most of you probably know, I bought a new 2700HGV off of eBay (dual SSID) the other day. Typically, my current 2700 is behaving absolutely fine today. I'm now hoping that it starts to misbehave again, just so it doesn't feel like a waste that I bought a new router. >:D

you much did you pay (inc postage)?

i may take it off your hands........could do with a dual ssid to complete the collection
Title: Re: Think my 2700 might be dying...
Post by: Sebby on Apr 15, 2008, 22:23:57
Sorry, I'll be hanging on to the new one anyway, but my old one you can have. ;)