IDNetters Forums

Technical News & Discussion => Networking & Routers => 2-Wire 2700 => Topic started by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 19, 2008, 11:21:04

Title: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 19, 2008, 11:21:04
its up and running , I speedtested it on BTSpeedtester and got this

Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test:  -provides background information.
    IP profile for your line is - 7150 kbps
    DSL connection rate: 448 kbps(UP-STREAM)  8128 kbps(DOWN-STREAM)
    Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 6413 kbps


not bad at all, when I look at the IDNET site it says that Routed VC-MUX is the setting they say to use, if I change the Bridge LLC setting to Routed VC-MUX I get a reading of PPP incorrect password  ???

and what about connection type, I have it set to PPP0A yet I notice there is a Direct IP (Static) option in there too , which is the one I should be using ?

ta for any help

btw Rik, that post of yours about router conking out again after 300 hrs, was that with a 2700HGV ? mine is the dual SSID type and my brother`s ,which is the same, has been up and running for about 6 months with no reconnects.

James

James

Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Rik on Mar 19, 2008, 11:29:40
The 300 hour re-boot seems only to affect the SBC firmware versions, James.

You should be set to Routed VC-MUX, PPPoA. Have you started with a factory reset, and then let it detect the connection?
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 19, 2008, 11:36:17
yeah, the only snag is when I select the vc-mux and hit save at bottom, it comes up incorrect PPP password  ???

james
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Rik on Mar 19, 2008, 11:42:12
Take  a read of this thread:

http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=5295.msg92205#msg92205
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: kinmel on Mar 19, 2008, 11:43:38
Quote from: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 19, 2008, 11:36:17
yeah, the only snag is when I select the vc-mux and hit save at bottom, it comes up incorrect PPP password  ???

james

Don't worry about that message, the settings you are trying to change will be altered.

just make sure that you used 528Y - 27G4 - A222 - 22BJ - B22V in the setup wizard.

I assume you have set a router password and turned on wireless security ?


If you have followed  this guide (http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=5295.msg102417#msg102417) the router will work flawlessly.

You will probably see a software update within the next 24 hours
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 19, 2008, 11:48:15
no, im running it in ethernet wired mode , would this have a bearing ?

James
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: kinmel on Mar 19, 2008, 11:55:40
The router arrived with wireless enabled and open to public use, you need to set wireless security as described in the guide.
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 19, 2008, 12:12:35
ive followed the guide as described apart from the dns poisoning. as im running the router in ethernet mode , ive disabled the wireless and ive entered the wpa2-psk authentication, the system keeps on giving me Bridge LLC.

James
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Rik on Mar 19, 2008, 12:14:13
Is it working OK, James. If so, don't worry too much - I ran in bridged mode for a while with no discernible differences.
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 19, 2008, 12:14:44
btw, I havent entered dns servers from idnet, its select to factory default.
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 19, 2008, 12:15:52
wonder why it wont let me select VC-MUX, there is food for thought  ???

James
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Rik on Mar 19, 2008, 12:16:53
I didn't enter them either, it just picks up the iDNet ones automatically.

As to VC-Mux, don't know, I need a webcam looking at your monitor. :)
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 19, 2008, 12:19:00
yup--fekkity -- dee , just did this from TB

Date 19/03/08 12:17:00
Speed Down 6666.78 Kbps ( 6.5 Mbps )
Speed Up 377.95 Kbps ( 0.4 Mbps )
Port 8095
Server speedtest1.adslguide.org.uk


I can live with that dude !!

James 8)
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: kinmel on Mar 19, 2008, 12:19:10
Quote from: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 19, 2008, 12:12:35
the system keeps on giving me Bridge LLC.

Don't worry about it,the thing seems to decide for itself.

you can now simply ignore the router; it will work ok
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 19, 2008, 12:24:47
Alan if it gives me that kind of speed all day long, well thats as good as whole night with michelle marsh and her two big chums !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I phoned support about the ATM issue and they said, whatever the router selects stick with it , thats ok by me.

James
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Rik on Mar 19, 2008, 12:36:12
Sometimes its best to let routers have their head and ignore what it says. If it works, it's fine. ;)
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Sebby on Mar 19, 2008, 16:13:33
The 2Wire is a strange beast in this respect. It seems to work with the wrong settings. ??? ;D
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Rik on Mar 19, 2008, 16:17:40
I suspect, Sebby, that sometimes the settings are right, but what it tells us the settings are is another matter altogether.  :-\
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Sebby on Mar 19, 2008, 16:19:17
That could be the case, Rik. I don't mind if it gives some incorrect information, because the positives outweight the negatives. ;)
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 19, 2008, 18:53:01
Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test:  -provides background information.
    IP profile for your line is - 7150 kbps
    DSL connection rate: 448 kbps(UP-STREAM)  8128 kbps(DOWN-STREAM)
    Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 1396 kbps

Hrumph  >:(....................6.50pm, not so good.

James
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 19, 2008, 19:08:19
Transmit and Receive Data
IP Bytes  Packets  Errors
Transmit: 13950497  112057  0
Receive: 266473760  208556  0
 
Data Errors
Statistics
Collected for 9:12:04
Since Reset Current 24-Hour Interval Current 15-Minute Interval Time Since Last Event
ATM Cell Header Errors: 26 26 1 0:05:57

ATM Loss of Cell Delineation: 1 1 0 9:01:57

DSL Link Retrains: 0 0 0 0:00:00

DSL Training Errors: 1 1 0 9:11:39

DSL Training Timeouts: 0 0 0 0:00:00

DSL Loss of Framing Failures: 0 0 0 0:00:00

DSL Loss of Signal Failures: 0 0 0 0:00:00

DSL Loss of Power Failures: 0 0 0 0:00:00

DSL Loss of Margin Failures: 0 0 0 0:00:00

DSL Cumulative Errored Seconds: 36 36 1 0:05:57

DSL Severely Errored Seconds: 0 0 0 0:00:00

DSL Corrected Blocks: 0 0 0 0:00:00

DSL Uncorrected Blocks: 41 41 1 0:05:57

ISP Connection Establishment: 1 1 1 0:48:58



Details
DSL Connection Details
DSL Line (Wire Pair): Line 1 (inner pair)
Protocol: G.DMT Annex A
Downstream Rate: 8128 kbps 
Upstream Rate: 448 kbps 
Channel: Fast
Current Noise Margin: 10.0 dB (Downstream) 24.0 dB (Upstream)
Current Attenuation: 18.2 dB (Downstream) 10.5 dB (Upstream)
Current Output Power: 19.8 dBm (Downstream) 12.2 dBm (Upstream)
DSLAM Vendor Information: Country: {0xB5} Vendor: {TSTC} Specific: {0x04}
PVC Info: 0/38

Internet Connection Details
Connection Type: PPPoA
Username: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Internet Address: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subnet Mask: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Default Gateway: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Primary Domain Name Server: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Secondary Domain Name Server: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Domain: 
Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU): 1500
Gateway Ping: Successful
DNS Communication: Successful
Configuration Server Post: Waiting for DNS information



How do these stats measure up for 9 1/4 hrs connection ? I cant believe how fast it was this afternoon compared to teatime.


James


Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Rik on Mar 19, 2008, 19:12:04
No errors worth speaking of, full sync, some headroom in the noise margin. The stats are fine.
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 19, 2008, 19:13:34
rik

6.5MB in afternoon with slump to a low of 1.4 MB :eek4: this teatime, exchange congestion ?

James
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Rik on Mar 19, 2008, 19:14:22
In all probability, yes. I've just run a speed test and my line is going flat out as normal.
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 19, 2008, 19:31:50
rik and then this

6379 Kbps
which is around 797.39 KB/s
including overheads

at 7.30pm , like a trampoline...up...down...up....down

James
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Rik on Mar 19, 2008, 19:35:31
I can't give you any more than the opinion I already have, James, I think it's an exchange/BT congestion issue. I've seen nothing to indicate to me that IDNet have an issue, and I can log in to both my usual dsl4 and the gw5 realm, so I've tested across both.
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Sebby on Mar 19, 2008, 23:19:44
I have to agree with you, Rik. I might not have the same profile (mine is a mere 4000k) but if it were IDNet I'd expect sub-2Mb speeds also, which I never get. My speeds are consistently maximum, so it has to be BT.
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 20, 2008, 00:47:24
sigh................24/7 of this

6972 Kbps
which is around 871.49 KB/s
including overheads

t`would be very nice indeed guys

James :angel:


Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Sebby on Mar 20, 2008, 14:57:53
I can appreciate the frustration, James. I just don't think there's anything you can do other than move to LLU. :(
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 20, 2008, 16:16:49
IDNet is a palace in an ISP world of council estates with skips full of old mattresses, no intention of leaving a good ISP sebby  :thumb:

James
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 20, 2008, 19:28:15
6791 Kbps
which is around 848.81 KB/s
including overheads.....................19.25pm


theres a huge turnaround from this time last night fellas, im keeping my  :fingers: crossed that BT upgrading being completed has had this effect.

James
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Rik on Mar 20, 2008, 19:28:40
So are we. ;)
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 20, 2008, 19:30:23
have an aspirin and glass of fresh water on me rik  :rofl:

James
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Rik on Mar 20, 2008, 19:31:52
Oh, I don't need aspirin, I'm just frustrated for you. I'm as certain as I can be that this is a BT issue you've been experiencing, but they won't accept responsibility for most things, just pointing to the FTR. :(
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Dont mention Talk Talk !! on Mar 20, 2008, 19:38:27
Has it been confirmed rik that ther upgrade work is actually completed ?

James
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Rik on Mar 20, 2008, 19:39:14
Well, in as much as BT haven't said it's over-running, yes...
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Sebby on Mar 21, 2008, 00:11:45
My fingers are crossed for you, James! ;)
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Colin Burns on Mar 21, 2008, 02:58:17
Quote from: Sebby on Mar 20, 2008, 14:57:53
I can appreciate the frustration, James. I just don't think there's anything you can do other than move to LLU. :(

IDNet to go LLU then the kingdom will be a palace
Title: Re: ATM settings for my new 2700HGV Router ?
Post by: Sebby on Mar 21, 2008, 10:25:34
It's an interesting point, Colin. Unfortunately, IDNet just don't have the right business model in place (which is a good thing). LLU can only be afforded by the big boys. Still, I think IDNet do a pretty good job on IPStream. ;)