What does everyone use? I have been using AVG free on both of my computers and today it detected a trojan or two (got rid of sopcast, because thats where they were lurking).
I would prefer a licence for two computers so am looking at Kaspersky, any thoughts but please don't sugest Norton :puke:
I use Bit Defender Internet Security, but as I have a Kaspersky 3 machine licence, I'm considering giving it another go. I believe there were some problems with one version of it, which is why I haven't used it up to now. Gary and I think Sebby both use it. :)
NOD32 V2.7 here. Works perfectly. Did try V3 .... too pretty & no real advance over V2 so reverted with a sys restore.
Avast!, used it for years, it just works :thumb:
NOD32 v3 with no problems.
nod32 v3 here too! Fantastic program.
I used AVG for years and recently switched to Kaspersky, and it's superb.
NOD32 v2.
Bit Defender Internet Security 2008 is my favourite at the moment.
Installed an alarm in a computer shop a couple of weeks ago and on the wal was a poster for Nod32.
Asked the owner about it, he said we sell it but I would not use myself. :eyebrow:
I ran Kapersky on line check yesterday and it tells me that AVG has missed some virus' , but they would. ::)
Quote from: Den on Mar 10, 2008, 07:40:58
Asked the owner about it, he said we sell it but I would not use myself. :eyebrow:
Did he say why, Den?
He just said that he did not rate it compared with others and I was to busy to ask anymore ;D Whish I had now as lots on here seem to be using it. Does it come with licences for more than one computer and how do prices compare?
The dreaded PC World (on line) are advertising the 3 licence version of Kaspersky for less than the single licence version, I think it was about £20/year.
TBH, I can't remember what I paid, Den, but I'm on a 3-year, 3-licence deal, the current price for which is £125, or £13.88 per machine, per annum.
Kaspersky internet security version 7.0.1.325, works great here :thumb:
Keep an eye on this site http://www.av-comparatives.org/ It's generally accepted as the best for exhaustive and independent tests of antivirus programs. It's latest report is due out TODAY, note you really need to read the Report rather than just the Online Results to get the full picture.
Quote from: Noreen on Mar 10, 2008, 10:32:26
Keep an eye on this site http://www.av-comparatives.org/ It's generally accepted as the best for exhaustive and independent tests of antivirus programs. It's latest report is due out TODAY, note you really need to read the Report rather than just the Online Results to get the full picture.
I agree with you Noreen, also there is a move to standardise how AV's are tested now as there are so many ways to test and some, are a little biased to say the least, this site seems to be the best and most impartial, its like the VB100 there is confusion over what "in the wild" actually means. A consistent test method across the board will stops sites plugging certain AV products by using a non standard test method biased to that particular AV.
Nod32 v3
p00nage
The idnet of the av world :laugh:
NOD32 v3 here, no probs
had bother when first using V3 but it was 'cos I installed over the top of V2.7, as was told it would work. went back to V2.7 then found out a clean install is needed and its worked great since.
I think you can buy for more than one machine and for more years as Rik said, I am also on my 4th year with it now and you get a price reduction each renewal :)
I installed it over the top of 2.7 without any problems, Baz.
BTW that latest av-comparatives Report isn't supposed to be out until 2pm Pacific Time today which I believe is 10pm here.
That's correct, Noreen. IIRC, Eastern time is -5, Central is -6, Mountain is -7, Pacific -8 and Hawaii -9. Parts of Arizona don't use daylight saving time, just to add a complication. :)
Quote from: Noreen on Mar 10, 2008, 12:22:31
I installed it over the top of 2.7 without any problems, Baz.
yeah thats what surprised me Noreen as I'd done similar with older versions. May have been my system or the fact that I waited a while to try again instead of straight away from the initial release of V3, might have been a bug...I dont know
Usually I download the upgrade and install later from the download but this time I installed straight from the upgrade site and I wonder if that makes a difference, Baz. I've heard of people having no problems with upgrading over the top like me and others like you who have had problems. Anyway I'm glad that my upgrade worked as I was able to retain my previous settings.
It's strange that it was recommended to uninstall and then install the new version as when I upgraded over the top there was an option to retain the previous settings which in a way makes it an "official" method.
Avast for me. Also use Adaware - never have a problem with viruses.
Yes I have adaware too but it stopped updating. I think they stopped improving it so I went to SUPERantispyware.
sure theres a thread about this already here somewhere
Nod 32 v2 here, great prog, not a system hog.
I also use SUPERAntiSpyware and SpywareBlaster.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Clam. A free open source AV. I've used it for years and find it OK
http://www.clamwin.com/
Never heard of it, tbh, Mark. Thanks for the link. :)
This is where all the open source goodies live. There is a project for just about every purpose here plus several clones of proprietary software.
Trouble is you will need to take a week off to trawl through all of this.
http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=18
I see what you mean. Back next Monday... :out:
Tried Kap whatsit, not impressed. I have had NOD32 for some time, been 100% for me, get frequent updates, sometimes several in one day. The only, to me very small, disadvantage is that it hogs my machine for a few seconds when I power up while it does whatever it does. :whistle:
It is usually checking for an update when you power up, BB, but I've never noticed it impact on boot.
It usually scans on boot so nothing bad is gonna start up and quite literally take control :eek4:
Clever bit of software :angel:
Your going to love this ;D Went on to PC world web site, in Key words typed in anti virus and it brought about four pages (if you just click on icon it brings up two pages).
Kaspersky anti virus single license £29.99
Kaspersky anti virus three licences £19.99
Kaspersky Internet security single £49.99
Kaspersky Internet security three £59.99
So I reserved anti virus three licenses @ £19.99
Whent in to collect, handed over piece of paper and £20 note (queried if this was correct) walked out with 1p and
Kespersky Internet Security Three License all for £19.99 :yes: :thup: Dont you love PC World
Sounds like a bit of finger trouble, doesn't it, Den. :)
Not my finger though Rik 8)
No, very much a PCW finger. :)
I think it was just lazy on their part, the box had the price on it (£59.99) :angel:
Quote from: Rik on Mar 10, 2008, 17:33:15
No, very much a PCW finger. :)
I did not realise that PCW used fingers, I always thought it was their elbows!
I always thought, when talking, it was their... :zip: No, let's not go there. ;)
You almost needed a moderator there Rik!
Self-restraint is a course that all staff have to go on. ;)
Rik in hand cuffs? Hey up ladies!
:lol:
That was only during the course, BB. ;D
there was no need to be coarse Rik, there may be children reading!
after tea I am going to have a fiddle ::) I will let you know later what I think about it. :eyebrow:
Try MacPherson's Rant, Den, it's a cracking tune. ;D
The AV program comparison Report is now available. Make sure that you read the Report pdf, you can save it.
Kaspersky up and running on my desktop, at first shocked how long it took to check everything.
Started to have problems almost straight away, Outlook 2007 running very slow and crashing. I was at the point of uninstalling it then I thought, wait it might not be the anti virus, it might be the spam checker. Turned that off and went back to letting Outlook look after itself and all seems to be well. The antivirus runs in the back ground and updates it self at least every couple of hours. So at the moment the jury is out, will report back. ;D
Does that make you the foreman, then, Den? ;)
no I'm the Fiveman Rik ;D
Dave Clark? Can I have your autograph please?? ;D
Wrong one, I'm one of the famous five. :eyebrow:
I think you'll find you can set Kaspersky to only check new and changed files in future scans, Den, so the next one should be quicker. :)
Quote from: Den on Mar 19, 2008, 19:29:50
Kaspersky up and running on my desktop, at first shocked how long it took to check everything.
Started to have problems almost straight away, Outlook 2007 running very slow and crashing. I was at the point of uninstalling it then I thought, wait it might not be the anti virus, it might be the spam checker. Turned that off and went back to letting Outlook look after itself and all seems to be well. The antivirus runs in the back ground and updates it self at least every couple of hours. So at the moment the jury is out, will report back. ;D
First scan takes longer, it takes less time with each further scan, and you can set it to update every 30 mins, to make sure you are always completely up to date
Found this which makes Kaspersky even better value. This is the Internet security package. Anti virus,Firewall ect.
http://www.kaspersky.com/kaspersky_internet_security
Compare this to ESET
https://secure.eset.co.uk/order/category.asp?intCategoryId=7
Have just brought this.
http://www.kaspersky.com/kaspersky_internet_security
Was going to go for Nod 32 but the deal on this was just to great and it seems to have good write ups.
If you are looking at buying Kaspersky it half price till the end of March and if you enter WHSMITH in the coupon box it comes down even further. Just paid £16.00 for the Internet security pack and a 2 year licence.
PREVX 2 on my main machine. Circa 14 quid a year - does what is says on the can. :thumb:
What I like about it is that you wouldn't know it was there unlike the one mentioned in disgust at the top of this thread!
I quote ":puke:"
PREVX 2 Research on the second machine. Free for me for the time being. Despite being a platform for trialling Beta versions I have never had any serious issues with it. :)
Quote from: old Bill on Mar 21, 2008, 18:33:40
Found this which makes Kaspersky even better value. This is the Internet security package. Anti virus,Firewall ect.
Just be carefull with the spam checker, the antivirus seems to be OK but I disabled the spam checker as it was clashing with Outlook 2007 and causing it to crash. No problems since :fingers:
just been reading this review. Not sure I agree with the winer.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2231575,00.asp
For all we know, Norton 2008 could be significantly better than previous versions; after all, it has apparently been re-written and now uses 83% less resources. But, I still can't help but think it's probably not all that great, and the author of that article doesn't know an awful lot about this topic. ::)
You're right, Sebby, but who do we get to test Norton so we can find out - it's certainly not going near one of my machines. :)
Or mine. :P
Hi,
Symantec is an obvious no-no. One of my customers just offed it for being useless after the 3rd virus outbreak in a month, the last of which was detected when someone took a USB flash drive from one of the work machines and put it in their own laptop with AVG (which went off like a fire alarm.) One of my other customers still uses it but we affectionately call it DCS (Doesn't Catch S***)
I've used McAfee corporate but don't like it as it has a habit of calling home very regularly to get it's updates which costs a bomb if you're on 3G roaming or on satellite. AVG seems pretty good, particularly for a freebie but the free version is not licensed for commercial use if you work from home.
To kill 99% of all known germs (spware and adware) on my customers' machines I use a three-pronged approach for most scanning. I use Spybot Search & Destroy, Adaware 2007 and (as much as I hate to recommend a MS product as their approach to security is what led to this mess in the first place) Windows Defender (which is surprisingly good.) None of these products is perfect but they tend to miss different things so scanning with all 3 usually finds and kills whatever is there.
If you're happy delving into the internals of Windows I recommend visiting http://www.sysinternals.com and downloading Autoruns, Process Explorer and Rootkit Revealer. Autoruns is an absolute gem it shows every program that starts by any of the Windows autostart mechanisms (the one thing common to all malware is that it WILL try to autostart.) Set Autoruns to hide MS entries and then have a good look at what's left. I've found anything that tries to start in more than one place in the registry is almost invariably bad. Process Explorer is similar to the process manager but nothing can hide from it, it shows the program hierarchy, what started what and what instances of things like svchost are actually running. It also lets you suspend malware tasks rather than ending them which generally helps if you get a 2 part piece of scumware where each part respawns the other if it gets killed and lets you kill a whole process tree if needed. Rootkit Revealer searches for hidden files and registry keys common in more sophisticated malware.
If I have a file I absolutely cannot delete because it is kept open, even in safe mode. I boot using an Ubuntu or Knoppix Linux CD then I can kill such files because they aren't open as Windows isn't running.
I chose a different approach to keeping my business free of malware and my customers' data safe. I have installed Linux on all my machines now. I keep windows on them too and can switch when I boot in case I need to run a customer app where there is no Linux equivalent and the Windows version won't run under the Windows compatibility layer in Linux. There are literally thousands of Linux applications now, most of which can be downloaded for free and only cost money if you want commercial support for them. I'm very happy with my choice and haven't had a malware outbreak in 5 years. Linux is nowhere near as difficult as it used to be. I'd recommend anyone that wants to give it a go try Ubuntu as a starting point. If I didn't want to run Linux I would have changed to Mac.
Good luck,
Paul.
edit: fixed typo, improved description of Process Explorer and added Mac as a choice.
Bookmarked that link for later - thanks Paul :)
Good post, Paul. :thumb:
Now changed to Avast Home from free AVG,although never knowingly had a virus problem with AVG.Anybody aware whether this product is inferior to the Avast professional product. My understanding is that they are similar with the free Home version being restricted to non commercial use.Obviously I don't like paying for software if there is no need.Thanks :)
No experience of it, Steve, sorry. :(
Me neither.
Help. As you will have seen from my other post Kaspersky is having some very strange affects on my browser and my computer is taking a while longer to load. I uninstalled it and loaded a trial version of Zone Alarm and all was well. Can any one give me any tips for the basic set up (a idiots guide :blush:) as the performance is set to low and it does not change whatever I do.
I am running Vista Ultimate.
I have no experience of the current version of Zone Alarm either, sorry Bill.
Did you have a word on the Kaspersky forums about the problems? They are usually very helpful.
http://forum.kaspersky.com/
Quote from: old Bill on Mar 26, 2008, 22:34:38
Help. As you will have seen from my other post Kaspersky is having some very strange affects on my browser and my computer is taking a while longer to load. I uninstalled it and loaded a trial version of Zone Alarm and all was well. Can any one give me any tips for the basic set up (a idiots guide :blush:) as the performance is set to low and it does not change whatever I do.
I am running Vista Ultimate.
Which version of Kaspersky is this, Bill? Hover over the icon in the taskbar if you're not sure.
Quote from: Sebby on Mar 26, 2008, 22:46:04
Which version of Kaspersky is this, Bill? Hover over the icon in the taskbar if you're not sure.
I am using Internet security 7 version 7.0.1.325. Just not sure how to set it up properly.
Quote from: old Bill on Mar 27, 2008, 09:20:51
I am using Internet security 7 version 7.0.1.325. Just not sure how to set it up properly.
The reason I asked is because there were problems on earlier version of 7, but they were sorted in this version. Your best bet might be the Kaspersky forums. I've never posted there myself, but I've had a look and they seem to be a very helpful bunch. :)
Thanks for all the advice. As it turned out I still had part of a old security program installed which seemed to be causing some problems. I uninstalled it and ran a Reg cleaner and it seems fine now. The only other problem was some of the things I was looking for do not work on Vista :eek4:. Still as far as I can tell it all seems to be ok now so will just have to watch it for the next few days to make sure there are no more problems.
Good to hear, Bill. :thumb:
Just to be on the safe side can anyone recomend a decent anti spyware/key loggers software ?
Ad-Aware is pretty good
also superantispyware and spyware blaster
Sorry to be joining this discussion so late. I've been using the free AVAST home edition for about a year and half and really like it - it updates virus definitions usually every day (sometimes trwice a day), and it's got a special plug-in for Outlook (which AVG doesn't have). I've also downloaded Windows Defender after reading a good review in Which Computing about it and have Ad Aware too, though I don't run it as often as I should. Which had recommended using two anti-spyware programmes rather than just one, so I also downloaded Spybot (I think that's the one) as well as Defender, but Spybot caused my machine to seize up a bit, so I uninstalled it.
It's strange Krysia, but no-one seems to be able to come up with a spyware program that catches everything. If our AV was that poor, we'd be muttering loudly.
I use AVG Free and it scans stuff on Outlook Express. ;)
Something I have installed is McAfee SiteAdvisor, most of you will probably know it. The logo sits top left of the screen and gives you a warning if you visit a site which might be a bit dodgy regarding spyware etc. http://www.siteadvisor.com/
I tried the free AVG first but it scans only Outlook Express, not Outlook (I use OE for home e-mail, and Outlook for work e-mail), so then went over to AVAST, which does both.
Do people think using both Ad-Aware and Windows Defender provides as good protection as possible, or should I think about adding a third anti-spyware programme?
Two should be enough, Krysia.
Call me paranoid, but I use Spybot S&D, Windows Defender, SpywareBlaster, Comodo Firewall, SUPERAntiSpyware and AVG AntiSpyware.
They are all free, and work fine.
Hi Paranoid! ;D
I have just had an issue with a Kaspersky Internet security update and Firefox i.e unable to display web pages. The solution was found here :)
http://support.kaspersky.com/kis7/firewall?qid=208279638 (http://support.kaspersky.com/kis7/firewall?qid=208279638)
Always useful to know, thanks. :)
I have just uninstalled Kaspersky Security and gone back to AVG free for now, got so fed up of my computer running slow programs crashing or refusing to open. So far so good it's good to be back with AVG, why did I change? :o
Because you wouldn't know otherwise, Den? Lots of people swear by Kaspersky.
I swear at Kaspersky, Rik. :mad:
I have the same feelings for Norton and McAfee. :)
I almost made the same change Den, then I thought, why??...AVG Free has worked fine for me, so why change. ;)
I find Kaspersky much faster than AVG. I can't think what the problem is, Den. :(
Since I installed AVG this afternoon Quickbooks has behaved itself and Outlook 2007 will open attachments in Word 2007 without any fuss (so far). XP now seems to be running at normal speed and I ran the speed test on Namesco which came back with 6.1mB as opposed to 10mB (even 12mB on one test) which is not bad for a 8mB service. ;D
I can only think you were using the version that had these problems, though I seem to remember you confirming you were running 7.0.1.325, so I'm baffled. :(
I do think that some suites just don't perform well on some machines. I installed F-Secure 2006 on my desktop, and it wouldn't shut down, then the 2007 version wouldn't complete a full scan. The 2008 version is better, but the right click scan doesn't work. All issues that seem to be isolated to my machine, which is why I'm now on Bit Defender.
Just received my morning emails, all opened at once, attachments transfered to Word straight away and opened at about 40secs faster than it has done for the last couple of weeks. Not a single crash since I installed AVG, the last problem I had was when I uninstalled Kaspersky, it said do I want to restart the computer, I said yes so it hung up and I had to reboot. ;D
If you do ever consider going back to Kaspersky, I'd head over to their forums to try and get to the bottom of the problem; it's certainly not normal practice. They're a very knowledgeable and helpful bunch. :)
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but I wonder if there could have been a conflict between Kaspersky and some other software on your machine, Den? Did you have any other security software installed at the time of the problems? Or maybe even something that hadn't been removed properly?
I think the only things that it clashed with was Office 2007 Pro, Quickbooks 2006 and Windows XP. Otherwise it was perfect. ::) I removed AVG and tried turning off things within Kaspersky all to no avail. Windows and the internet are running at normal speed now and have not had a single crash today. ;D
I use Office 2007 Ultimate and XP. Do you have any other security applications installed?
Spybot and Windows defender :D
Hmm, well I'm not running either, though when I had Vista previously I was running Windows Defender, Kaspersky, and Office 2007 together.
I suppose if you do try Kaspersky again, you could disable those and see if it makes a difference. It's worth a try. :)
I don't think I will be trying it, I will most likely update to AVG Pro. :-\
Fair enough. :)