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Technical News & Discussion => IDNet Help => Topic started by: LesD on Feb 17, 2008, 20:41:54

Title: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: LesD on Feb 17, 2008, 20:41:54
Hi Fellow IDnetters,

Here: http://www.idnet.net/solutions/homelite.jsp

I see this: Free access to BBC broadband content

What does it mean?

I often access for example: http://news.bbc.co.uk/ to catch up on the News and latest events and my access has always been "free" as far as I am aware!  ???
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: MoHux on Feb 17, 2008, 22:24:15
If you scroll down to the bottom of the IDNet page you linked to Les, you will see the 'Services' box.

In there, is I think, the link to the BBC Broadband Services referred to (Multicast etc.).  ;)

Mo

;D
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Lance on Feb 17, 2008, 22:25:44
Indeed Mo, IDNet are peered with the BBC in order to provide multicast content.

Find out more here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/multicast/
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Ann on Feb 17, 2008, 23:38:47
Can anyone actually use it?  I can't.  Not much of a selling point!
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Lance on Feb 17, 2008, 23:50:45
I've used it several times before, Ann. Unfortunately the IGMP stuff on my 2wire is disabled which means I can't use it with that though. Is this possibly why you can't use it?
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Ann on Feb 18, 2008, 13:55:27
Absoultely.  It's marked as disabled and I have no idea how to enable it.  Have been searching the internet for clues but it's like wading through treacle.
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Rik on Feb 18, 2008, 14:42:41
I've never found an answer either, it's probably requires some arcane code and a bunch of witches chanting at midnight. :)
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: zebrum on Feb 18, 2008, 14:54:20
iPlayer replaced it:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Rik on Feb 18, 2008, 15:01:40
That makes sense, thanks. :)
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: madasahatter on Feb 18, 2008, 15:39:39
Quote from: zebrum on Feb 18, 2008, 14:54:20
iPlayer replaced it:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/


Mystery solved  :)
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Ann on Feb 18, 2008, 16:06:20
I've always listened to the radio using their player but my understanding is that multicast is different and better quality sound. 

Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Rik on Feb 18, 2008, 16:08:55
This:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/multicast/

suggests it is still running. I know that my Netgear wasn't compatible, neither does the 2700 appear to be. I wonder what routers are - and how you get into the trial?
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: madasahatter on Feb 18, 2008, 16:18:32
It could of course just mean that the editors of the website have forgotten that page is there.......  >:D
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Rik on Feb 18, 2008, 16:23:13
Also possible. :)
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Sebby on Feb 18, 2008, 20:50:28
I was under the impression that Multicast had been replaced by iPlayer, but I could be wrong. It's certainly possible that the BBC have left the old site up by accident; these things do happen. :)
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: LesD on Feb 18, 2008, 21:17:59
Hi Folks,

I am amazed that my simple question was the catalyst for so much discussion :cheers:

I have tried the links myself this evening and the radio one works just great for me but the multicast one bring up a login name/password box like the one I use to get into my Netgear router.

I guess this means that my experience mirrors that of you guys and I cannot go there either!   :'(
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Ann on Feb 18, 2008, 21:57:30
Les, we can talk for hours about any ol' rubbish.. I'm just surprised that nobody's mentioned food yet!  :banana2:
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: MoHux on Feb 18, 2008, 22:04:09
'They' are too busy eating I expect Ann.  :food2: :choc: :hungry: :cheers:
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Lance on Feb 18, 2008, 22:28:07
It used to work on my linksys router fine. That multicast page was updated not long ago, so i assume it is still in progress. Does iplayer allow for live tv? Or is it just catch up?

i've also spent several hours searching for how to turn on igmp on the 2wire. Thinking about it, i wonder if it is done via a different setup code. I might email 2wire and ask!
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Rik on Feb 18, 2008, 23:57:01
I see you discovered the new smileys, Mo. :)
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: MoHux on Feb 19, 2008, 00:09:59
Little things ...................  :pullface:
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Rik on Feb 19, 2008, 00:14:54
You missed the yawns and bed time. :)
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: MoHux on Feb 19, 2008, 00:21:04
No I didn't!!  I was trying to ignore them, is all ...............  :sleepy:
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Rik on Feb 19, 2008, 00:37:24
They can set you going, Mo. Close your eyes when posting them. :)
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: dudwell on Feb 19, 2008, 11:06:29
I'm confused about the various TV catch-up services available on broadband. Is there a comprehensive review somewhere? What they offer, how to get the best from them minimising any negative effects, their impacts on bandwidth usage, etc. etc. I've seen terms like kontiki, kservice.exe (should be disabled apparently, but how?), Delivery Manager.... In short I'd like an impartial guide for the technologically challenged. It must exist somewhere?
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Rik on Feb 19, 2008, 11:16:20
It might be worth a browse of the AV forums:

http://www.avforums.com/forums/index.php
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Inactive on Feb 19, 2008, 11:33:44
....or/and

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/

;)
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: dudwell on Feb 19, 2008, 11:50:53
Thanks Rik and Inactive. I've browsed 'em before and I'll browse 'em again when my headache subsides :conf:

Meanwhile TVCatchup just died:-

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/a89637/tvcatchup-shuts-after-broadcaster-complaints.html
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Rik on Feb 19, 2008, 11:56:10
Or was executed...
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Ann on Feb 19, 2008, 13:39:10
Anything with kontiki or another k word in it are peer to peer and I don't do peer to peer which is why I uninstalled the BBC download manager.  That is the sum of my knowledge on the subject  :dunce:
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Rik on Feb 19, 2008, 14:33:54
Me too, Ann. :)
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: ducky22 on Feb 19, 2008, 14:37:16
Multicast and iPlayer are 2 completely seperate products at the moment. I believe the BBC were working on integrating live streaming using multicast via iPlayer but this hasn't materialised. Obviously too busy with lord only knows what stupid projects.
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: somanyholes on Feb 19, 2008, 14:46:00
more video linkage

http://www.freetube.us.tc/
http://streamingtvepisodes.com/
http://www.joost.com/
http://quicksilverscreen.com/
http://www.freefilmfactory.com/
http://revision3.com/
http://www.g4tv.com/videos/index.html
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: madasahatter on Feb 19, 2008, 15:11:57
To add to that list there's:

http://www.tvokay.com/

These are all free steaming sites, so no P2P worries.

Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Inactive on Feb 19, 2008, 15:38:25
 "Firefox can make streaming less choppy and download A-LOT faster. Also blocks pop-ups! Some video reqiures firefox to stream. "..

Obviously they don't bother with a spell checker..  ;D
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Rik on Feb 19, 2008, 15:39:21
They were probably using IE. ;)
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Ann on Feb 20, 2008, 21:25:31
Quote from: Lance on Feb 18, 2008, 22:28:07
i've also spent several hours searching for how to turn on igmp on the 2wire. Thinking about it, i wonder if it is done via a different setup code. I might email 2wire and ask!

Lance, if you go to http://home/xslt?PAGE=J30 on the router, there's an option that can be checked for IGMP Querier.  What does that do?  I haven't tried it.. too scared.. but should I?
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Lance on Feb 20, 2008, 22:22:05
I can't remember what it does, but i'm pretty sure i've tried it and it didn't work.

From memory, the only way to get it enabled would be for the isp (ie bt) to remotely manage the router and for them to turn it on.
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Ann on Feb 21, 2008, 10:30:44
That makes sense.  So that's one downside of the router.  Shame.  :(
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Mytheroo on Feb 22, 2008, 06:36:48
was in Brighton last month and even the seaguls are doing pier to pier networking now.

And the sparrows sat on the telegraph wires bring a new meaning to a BT swarm   :blush: sorry
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Lance on Feb 22, 2008, 08:14:51
:lol:
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Rik on Feb 22, 2008, 09:56:25
Quote from: Mytheroo on Feb 22, 2008, 06:36:48
was in Brighton last month and even the seaguls are doing pier to pier networking now.

:grn:

I see you've picked up the humour of this place. :)
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Simon on Feb 22, 2008, 11:00:54
Quote from: Rik on Feb 22, 2008, 09:56:25
I see you've picked up the humour of this place. :)

Put it down, quick!  It's infectious!  ;D
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Rik on Feb 22, 2008, 11:20:47
Too late, once touched... :)
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Mytheroo on Feb 22, 2008, 15:22:18
i had marigolds and a hockey mask on, am i safe?
Title: Re: Free access to BBC broadband content?
Post by: Rik on Feb 22, 2008, 15:28:11
Where did you find marigolds in flower at this time of year?  ;D