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Title: An alternative to the 2700?
Post by: Inactive on Feb 10, 2008, 12:14:47
Read this over on DSL Zone, where there is a topic about it, this is taken from a review;

The Billion BiPAC 7300G generally proved more than adequate in use. It's unexceptional (although very much on a par with its rivals), although it did fare better in one particular area – connect speed. For some years now we've relied on a Netgear router here. And despite having an 'up to 8Mbps' connection and being about a mile from our exchange, the router has never managed to connect at more than 5 or 6Mbps.

The Billion BiPAC 7300G had no problem connecting at a respectable 7.6Mbps, which gave us an immediate bandwidth boost of about 25 percent - not bad eh?


Interesting, but unproven.
Title: Re: An alternative to the 2700?
Post by: Rik on Feb 10, 2008, 12:15:55
I've seen good and bad reports of Billion, In, we could certainly use more data on it.
Title: Re: An alternative to the 2700?
Post by: MoHux on Feb 10, 2008, 21:31:22
Quote from: Rik on Feb 10, 2008, 12:15:55
I've seen good and bad reports of Billion, In, we could certainly use more data on it.

SUE!!
Title: Re: An alternative to the 2700?
Post by: Sebby on Feb 10, 2008, 21:53:33
As you say, In, it's interesting but unproven. I know many here are happy with Netgear, but I've never found them to be good, so I'd imagine that moving to a router with a different chipset like the Billion may, but default, be better for a lot of users. That doesn't mean it's as good as the 2Wire or SpeedTouch 585v6 in terms of connection rate, though.

You could always give it a try and send it back under the Distance Selling Regulations if you weren't happy. :)
Title: Re: An alternative to the 2700?
Post by: Rik on Feb 10, 2008, 23:53:18
What we need is to do a Which? report for them... :)
Title: Re: An alternative to the 2700?
Post by: Inactive on Feb 11, 2008, 01:35:18
My theory is, there is no perfect router for every line situation, some appear to suit some lines better than others, but what do I know.. ;D
Title: Re: An alternative to the 2700?
Post by: merlin on Feb 11, 2008, 08:13:41
i think you've got it there inactive, as there are so many other variables, its as much to do with "the router suiting the line etc" as anything else.
although its true some are better at "matching the line" than others, for unknown reasons ,the 2700 being an example
Title: Re: An alternative to the 2700?
Post by: Rik on Feb 11, 2008, 11:08:07
You're dead right, Merlin. The Draytek range were considered the Rolls Royce of routers prior to Max, but when I moved to Max, mine just didn't work well with my line. The humble Netgear, otoh, did a pretty good job.

It makes recommending a router a lottery, unfortunately.
Title: Re: An alternative to the 2700?
Post by: Gary on Feb 12, 2008, 17:36:25
Must admit the new V4 netgear DG834G is much more stable with the new chipset than the old ones I have had, so far I'm very happy with it, the stats are more detailed as well giving you noise margins more accurately, I'm at 6304kbs at the moment with snr of 4.7, the v3 could not hold this speed at this time of night, will report back after a week on how it is going  :)
Title: Re: An alternative to the 2700?
Post by: Sebby on Feb 12, 2008, 18:53:12
It certainly sounds like there's some truth in this whole AR7 chipset issue.
Title: Re: An alternative to the 2700?
Post by: sobranie on Mar 13, 2008, 16:00:20
Quote from: Killhippie on Feb 12, 2008, 17:36:25
Must admit the new V4 netgear DG834G is much more stable with the new chipset than the old ones I have had, so far I'm very happy with it, the stats are more detailed as well giving you noise margins more accurately, I'm at 6304kbs at the moment with snr of 4.7, the v3 could not hold this speed at this time of night, will report back after a week on how it is going  :)
Also considering the v4 after soldiering on with the v2 for around 4years.  prob I have now is the damn thing is dropping synch on a regular basis and has to be switched off for around 30 minutes to re-synch.
I put this down to overheating! When I say 'overheating I mean hot to the touch!! I did suspect that BT were 'playing' at the exchange but after a few visits to the exchange (100 mtrs away) there was no one there.
I presume the v4 is up to the forthcoming BT upgrades??  Anybody else using one ?  I would welcome your comments.
Have also considered the 2700 of course but after reading all the set-up comments I think I would prefer something that actually works out of the box.
Title: Re: An alternative to the 2700?
Post by: Rik on Mar 13, 2008, 16:07:26
To be fair, I found that the 2700 did work out of the box, but I do have the SBC firmware. It might be worth trying an air blaster of your 834, see if you can get any dust out. Also try it in the vertical position.
Title: Re: An alternative to the 2700?
Post by: sobranie on Mar 13, 2008, 20:28:21
Sod it.  Am going for this, can anyone confirm it's the correct one please;

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BT-Business-Wireless-Router-2700-HGV-Gateway-NEW_W0QQitemZ370028835208QQihZ024QQcategoryZ44997QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting



Title: Re: An alternative to the 2700?
Post by: Simon on Mar 13, 2008, 21:52:39
That looks like one one.  It doesn't actually specify that it's the twin SSID version, but being *new*, it should be.  :)
Title: Re: An alternative to the 2700?
Post by: Sebby on Mar 14, 2008, 09:08:22
The 2Wire is a great router, and I would think it will improve things for you; we've now seen several cases where we can be virtually certain that it's the AR7 chipset causing issues. :)
Title: Re: An alternative to the 2700?
Post by: sobranie on Mar 14, 2008, 11:07:16
Thankyou all.  :)