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Technical News & Discussion => Networking & Routers => 2-Wire 2700 => Topic started by: merlin on Feb 04, 2008, 21:20:58

Title: logging resyncs etc
Post by: merlin on Feb 04, 2008, 21:20:58
i have noticed that some of you have a running log, it usually seems to be in the form of a graph,
then you can go through it and say i have'nt resynced for X days now.

what program do you use ,or how do you do this

i have a BT2700 on XP
Title: Re: logging resyncs etc
Post by: Lance on Feb 04, 2008, 22:15:21
Hi merlin,

On this page (http://home/xslt?PAGE=B04&THISPAGE=B01&NEXTPAGE=B04), you should be able to see a 'collected for x days' in the left hand corner. If the 'DSL link retains' time since last event shows as 0, the collected for period is how long you have held sync. If it gives a number of hours, that is how long you have held sync for.

You can get more detailed information on any disconnects here (http://home/xslt?PAGE=J42&THISPAGE=J01&NEXTPAGE=J42).
Title: Re: logging resyncs etc
Post by: kinmel on Feb 04, 2008, 22:19:38
You can find your training history ...  http://192.168.1.254/xslt?PAGE=J42&THISPAGE=A02_POST&NEXTPAGE=J42 (http://192.168.1.254/xslt?PAGE=J42&THISPAGE=A02_POST&NEXTPAGE=J42)

Find lost connections and just about everything else .... http://192.168.1.254/xslt?PAGE=J34&THISPAGE=J42&NEXTPAGE=J34 (http://192.168.1.254/xslt?PAGE=J34&THISPAGE=J42&NEXTPAGE=J34)


or use Routerstats Lite (http://www.vwlowen.co.uk/internet/files.htm) to track sync and SNR
Title: Re: logging resyncs etc
Post by: merlin on Feb 05, 2008, 08:29:19
thx LANCE and KINMEL, yes this looks like the sort of thing i,m after, now i,ve just got to figure it all out,
certainly keeps the brain active !!!
Title: Re: logging resyncs etc
Post by: Rik on Feb 05, 2008, 09:39:24
I wonder if you were thinking of Routerstats, Merlin. That produces a text log and/or a graph.

http://www.vwlowen.co.uk/internet/files.htm
Title: Re: logging resyncs etc
Post by: merlin on Feb 05, 2008, 13:47:15
RIK yes i think thats the graph i was looking for, i've set it up according to the help file,
now what i'm getting is two very straight lines
speed is at 8128 kbs
noise margin is at 9dB

i would have expected these to go up and down , but no they are constant ,no matter what i do !!

what have i done wrong (or do i have the perfect system oopps) :conf:
Title: Re: logging resyncs etc
Post by: Rik on Feb 05, 2008, 14:11:08
Hi Merlin

Speed won't change unless the router re-syncs (and maybe not then). IMO, it's pointless graphing it. Noise, otoh, does vary but, unlike my Netgear, the 2700 keeps it dead flat all day, then drops by 1db when the street light come one. Around midnight till 2am, there's a lot of noise bursts, causing maybe 3-4db drops.
Title: Re: logging resyncs etc
Post by: merlin on Feb 05, 2008, 15:34:45
so that makes sense then , the answer is to wait and see , thx RIK
Title: Re: logging resyncs etc
Post by: jupiter on Feb 05, 2008, 20:39:13
Quote from: Rik on Feb 05, 2008, 14:11:08
Noise, otoh, does vary but, unlike my Netgear, the 2700 keeps it dead flat all day ...

After the fluctuations recorded by my previous router, this flat line has worried me, suspecting that the thing was not recording correctly.

I am reassured by your experience - but what is happening - are the fluctuations which surely must occur, especially on long lines, being ignored?
Title: Re: logging resyncs etc
Post by: kinmel on Feb 05, 2008, 21:10:46
Quote from: jupiter on Feb 05, 2008, 20:39:13
I am reassured by your experience - but what is happening - are the fluctuations which surely must occur, especially on long lines, being ignored?

They are being ignored in the nicest possible way.

My 2700 sync'd at 4672 at first boot on 8th January and hasn't moved once, the SNR drops to as low as 2 during the night. My old router would re-sync most nights, but for some reason the 2700 just keeps rolling along.

The problem with the 2700 is that it is quite boring after you have set it up, you can just ignore it now.
Title: Re: logging resyncs etc
Post by: Lance on Feb 05, 2008, 22:54:32
I can only speculate, but it seems as if the 2wire is better at finding frequencies at which, when used, keep a more stable connection. My SNR does drop at night as well, as expected, but the 2wire doesn't go as low as my linksys did, dispite syncing much higher!
Title: Re: logging resyncs etc
Post by: Rik on Feb 05, 2008, 23:50:11
I agree with Lance, the 2700 seems more refined in its negotiations, picking out the frequencies which are less prone to noise. If you look at the graph showing the distribution of the signal, you will get an idea of how it works.