Subject update is now available but read this;
Editor's Review - Windows XP Service Pack 3 Preview
3
out of 5
Good
Windows XP Service Pack 3 Preview actually contains security updates and hotfixes issued by Microsoft Corp. up to April 2nd, 2006; 248 files in total Each hotfix needs to be installed manually. when downloading, you may also get additional applications bundled with the software's installer file. These third party application may represent a hazard for your computer, so you will need to carefully read the installation notes. Attention: Internet Explorer 7 is not included in the package.
Pluses: The hotfixes and security updates a Microsoft genuine.
Drawbacks / flaws: Third party software bundled in the download may represent serious threats to your computer.
In conclusion: If your copy of Windows is legit and genuine, I see absolutely no reason for downloading this package.
Quote from: sobranie on Nov 22, 2007, 19:35:03
Drawbacks / flaws: Third party software bundled in the download may represent serious threats to your computer.
what third party software?
What kind of threat/flaw to your computer?
Everybody knows what a pile of junk Vista is like - roll on an XP update.
Is the third party software to spy on you?
Maybe it's directx10... we should be so lucky :(
Picked up this info here;
http://www.soft32.com/download_123572.html
Thst was last updated on 9 May 2005.
I was getting excited there for a minute, one day I'll have to give in to Vista, to get Directx10.
Still Crysis looks good without it.
I've got Vista on my laptop (as it is quite new) and xp on my desktop. I have to say that on the whole, i prefer vista and find it more stable than xp.
I have been tempted recently, do you know if problems with nvidia drivers, nero and other programs is now sorted? Thanks
The reviews for Vista SP1 are that it does not increase speed much, and xp sp 3 will add a few vista features but mainly it will be bugfixes and the final service pack for XP of course. Heres a link to Vista SP1 article http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9047902
Microsoft aim to have a new OS out in 2009 so I may skip Vista altogether and see what's next, who knows I need more coffee to work it out ;)
Quote from: gallo on Nov 23, 2007, 05:17:31
I have been tempted recently, do you know if problems with nvidia drivers, nero and other programs is now sorted? Thanks
Have a look at the Nvidia forums for vista related issues gallo http://forums.nvidia.com/ have a look at the Forceware section for driver stuff
Quote from: Andy70 on Nov 22, 2007, 21:19:47
Everybody knows what a pile of junk Vista is like - roll on an XP update.
I don't know !
My daughters new laptop came with Vista and it works fine, what particular aspects of it are a 'pile of junk' ?
My Vista laptop works fine too. I seem to recall a few people making the same sort of comments about XP when it first came out, until they got used to it. :)
Quote from: john on Nov 23, 2007, 12:37:15
I don't know !
My daughters new laptop came with Vista and it works fine, what particular aspects of it are a 'pile of junk' ?
I don't think its a pile of junk John, its far more secure to be honest but the UAC gets on peoples nerves and turning it off defeats the point of it being there, also software/driver compatibility issues still remain, security companies are still having issues with proper access to the API, some people are finding it is not good for game play due to Vista's overheads. A Vista PC running to its full capability really needs 2gig of ram, more to be honest as some companies are now saying, and a high end graphics card and a decent CPU to get the most out of it, these seem to be the general complaints as its pushed the price of a PC up, which a lot of people cannot afford due to its hardware needs. I think a lot of issues also come down to people getting a bad experience with Vista due to PC's with lower specs struggling to cope with the OS and running other memory intensive tasks. That's why I think that in 2009 Microsoft will look at these issues with the new OS, otherwise they will shoot themselves in the foot long term, yes new software will always require more ram etc as they advance but getting the OS not to be so memory intensive to start would help, Imagine if Vista had come out when it was planned, how many machines would have been able to run it with the technology available then.
Quote from: gallo on Nov 22, 2007, 21:34:11
Thst was last updated on 9 May 2005.
I was getting excited there for a minute, one day I'll have to give in to Vista, to get Directx10.
Still Crysis looks good without it.
Sorry folks. I was directed to this item via a torrents site. Everybody and his dog are d/l the 'NEW' SP3 as I write. I failed to notice the antiquity of the review site however so I'm off now to commit honourable hari kari!! :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Quote from: Killhippie on Nov 23, 2007, 14:21:33
yes new software will always require more ram etc
Yet it needn't, Gary, is software was written more efficiently.
Quote from: sobranie on Nov 23, 2007, 14:22:31
Sorry folks. I was directed to this item via a torrents site. Everybody and his dog are d/l the 'NEW' SP3 as I write. I failed to notice the antiquity of the review site however so I'm off now to commit honourable hari kari!! :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
You're forgiven - I seldom notice anything. ;)
I dual-boot XP Home SP2 and Vista on my modest desktop PC. XP2600+mhz - Radeon X800 PRO/GTO 256MB.
I use Vista from preference and agree with the previous complimentary remarks.
Problems with drivers for both hardware and software, have been solely due to shortcomings on the part of developers. I find their NEW devices always support Vista, trying to make you buy new.
I would recommend you try it - the UAC (User account control) asking permission, and popping up, will get on your pip at first, but it is there for a good reason, and can be turned off!
Be a devil!! >:D
Oh! Dear! There have been 4 posts while I have been looking for the right keys to press. Ah! Well!! ::)
One of the worst cases, when it came to hardware, was early Dymo Labelwriters, which simply would not work with Vista at all. They (Dymo) have always insisted the printer be plugged into the PC and not a hub, so I suspect they played fast and loose with the USB standard. :(
Quote from: Rik on Nov 23, 2007, 14:23:27
Yet it needn't, Gary, is software was written more efficiently.
That's true Rik but bloatware does seem to be the order of the day, I get fed up of a dvd burning program also trying to be my music downloading source and jukebox, alas some developers need to look at what they create with a little more thought. And with a certain well know webcam manufacturer getting their drivers to actually play nice with any soundcard onboard of otherwise would be nice ::)
I agree, Gary. Software should stop trying to be everything, and focus on its primary role. I can just imagine one day that Nero will come with an office suite. I do not need or want software to take over functions of other applications, keep it simple - keep it small. Even then, more efficient programming languages could further reduce bloat. In fact, I'd quite like to see apps being written in assembler again. Not only would it make them smaller and faster, but it would actively discourage adding functions that no-one except the marketing department actually want!
Quote from: Rik........ In fact, I'd quite like to see apps being written in assembler again. Not only would it make them smaller and faster, but it would actively discourage adding functions that no-one except the marketing department actually want!
I agree, it's like a breath of fresh air to use the occasional program you come across. ::)
:)
Bring back VisiCalc, eh Mo? ;)
Quote from: Rik on Nov 23, 2007, 14:49:10
I agree, Gary. Software should stop trying to be everything, and focus on its primary role. I can just imagine one day that Nero will come with an office suite. I do not need or want software to take over functions of other applications, keep it simple - keep it small. Even then, more efficient programming languages could further reduce bloat. In fact, I'd quite like to see apps being written in assembler again. Not only would it make them smaller and faster, but it would actively discourage adding functions that no-one except the marketing department actually want!
I could not agree more Rik, I have avoided upgrading my old Logitech webcam drivers for this reason, the old version works fine and the new one, 10.5.something is 85mb ??? My old one is 32mb and from what I have seen the new ones are hell and offer not a lot unless you run Vista even then a BSOD seems par for the course. Its getting to the point where I don't upgrade just patch for security, unless the whole program has to be replaced for that. I like my pc running how it does without the added risk of having four programs all wanting to run my music and connect to the CDDB or causing my soundcard to play like its through a tin can with a collection of crickets providing backround sound effects ::)
I know just what you mean, Gary. If it ain't broke...
Quote from: gallo on Nov 23, 2007, 05:17:31
I have been tempted recently, do you know if problems with nvidia drivers, nero and other programs is now sorted? Thanks
I use Nero 7 quite happilly, and Nero 8 was released not long ago. Can't recall having any problems with other programs either.
Quote from: Lance on Nov 23, 2007, 17:11:36
I use Nero 7 quite happilly, and Nero 8 was released not long ago. Can't recall having any problems with other programs either.
I'm still happily using Nero 6 and I don't let it do everything it seems to think it should be doing. I also generally agree with most of the previous comments particularly if it's not broke then don't fix it.
(Hurrah, I've made a 1000 posts :D, gosh how did that happen :o)
At the moment I need nothing that XP dosn't give me, the only thing that interests me on Vista is DirectX10, when the times comes for games to need it, I will move.
Like you say - if it ain't broke, don't fit it.
I had Nero 6 on my XP desktop until I got version 7 as I didn't want to v6 on my Vista laptop!
Congratulations on the 1000 posts John! Have a celebratory karma!
Thanks for the Karma Lance.
(although my wife thinks it's sad :()
lol you'll have to take a karma away from her!
Quote from: john on Nov 24, 2007, 00:49:20
(although my wife thinks it's sad :()
All our karmas are very happy, they have an excellent standard of living, and we tuck them in at night, read them a story and fetch glasses of water on request. :angel:
Here are my seven little ones
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Quote from: Rik on Nov 24, 2007, 09:45:24
All our karmas are very happy, they have an excellent standard of living, and we tuck them in at night, read them a story and fetch glasses of water on request. :angel:
Nurse!!! He's forgotten his pills again!! :crazy:
I didn't forget them, I just didn't take them. >:D
A report suggests XP SP3 makes XP 10% faster. "According to the Office performance benchmarks, Windows XP SP3 is also considerably faster than Vista SP1. "None of this bodes well for Vista, which is now more than two times slower than the most current builds of its older sibling," said Barth" Full article here http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,139911/article.htm