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Title: Is this a good deal?
Post by: Simon on Nov 05, 2007, 22:35:40
A friend wants to go wireless, and this seems like a good deal to me.  Thoughts, anyone?

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/119374
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: Rik on Nov 06, 2007, 00:15:38
If you don't need the dongle, Simon, DSL Source are a bit cheaper:

http://www.dslsource.co.uk/details.aspx?idProduct=737

Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: Simon on Nov 06, 2007, 08:13:40
He needs the dongle, or would have to buy a wireless network card.  This is a home built machine, and it wasn't required at the time.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: Rik on Nov 06, 2007, 10:39:29
Personally, I'd go for the network card, but dongles do have some advantages if they come with a lead and can be moved about.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: Simon on Nov 06, 2007, 12:55:50
Hold on, I've just had a horrible thought.  The machine currently has no network card.  Does it need one?  If not, how does one initially set up the router?
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: Rik on Nov 06, 2007, 13:11:10
On your machine?
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: Simon on Nov 06, 2007, 13:23:50
No, on the machine that the above package is intended for.  There is currently no network card, so if we need to buy one, we might as well buy a wireless one and not have the dongle.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: Rik on Nov 06, 2007, 13:33:56
I was just thing that, if you wanted to save going down that road, Simon, you could set the router up on your machine, then do the rest with wireless.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: Simon on Nov 06, 2007, 13:39:28
Oh, would that work then?  So after the initial set up, no network card is required?
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: Adam on Nov 06, 2007, 14:20:14
Quote from: Si6776 on Nov 06, 2007, 13:39:28
Oh, would that work then?  So after the initial set up, no network card is required?

After initial setup of the DG834G it is possible to access the admin interface using a wireless connection. It may even be possible to do this before initial setup if the router ships with no security enabled by default, I can't remember if the DG834G does or not.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: Rik on Nov 06, 2007, 14:42:18
TBH, neither can I, Adam, but I think that the wireless connection is off by default, and then has no security when turned on. It's a while since I set one up, though, and that was from a cabled machine.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: Simon on Nov 06, 2007, 16:26:32
Hmmm... I can't access the DG834G from my laptop, which is wireless, but I can from my desktop, which is Ethernet wired.

I think I might look for a cheap network card on eBay, just to be on the safe side.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: Rik on Nov 06, 2007, 16:35:02
It would be the easiest solution, Simon.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: ducky22 on Nov 11, 2007, 23:13:40
You can definitely configure the DG834G via wireless right out of the box. The factory defaults have no security and an SSID of 'NETGEAR'.

Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: Simon on Nov 12, 2007, 00:03:56
Thanks Ducky  ;D  Is that just via a USB dongle though, or through a wireless network card?  I still can't get my head round whether a network card is still required, if there is not one already installed, or whether the USB dongle does everything in it's place.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: ducky22 on Nov 12, 2007, 01:13:10
Not sure if I follow... (sorry its late and I've been working for too long without a break :-P).

A wireless dongle and a wireless network card are both going to do the same job. One is internal, one is external - that's the only difference. You can use either to connect to the router wirelessly for the initial setup. You only need one or the other.

Hope I followed correctly.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: Simon on Nov 12, 2007, 17:05:02
Yes, you did follow correctly, and have explained in an exemplary fashion, something which I couldn't get my head round until now.  Thanks - worth a karma!
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: Rik on Nov 12, 2007, 17:11:55
Sorry, Simon, I thought you were talking about a wired network card.  :-[
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: Simon on Nov 12, 2007, 17:22:18
I probably didn't explain it very well, Rik, but it's not a problem as I can return the network card unopened, if it won't be needed.  :)
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: ducky22 on Nov 12, 2007, 20:47:37
Quote from: Si6776 on Nov 12, 2007, 17:22:18
I probably didn't explain it very well, Rik, but it's not a problem as I can return the network card unopened, if it won't be needed.  :)

No, it definitely won't be required.

One thing to help tho....... When you go to setup the wireless, make sure you change the SSID, select WPA and then enter a Network Key before clicking 'apply'. As long as you do all 3 things at the same time, you won't be stuck with the hassle of editing wireless profiles (Windows XP is a pain for that!).


hehe - thanks for the karma!
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: Simon on Nov 12, 2007, 20:49:36
Done!  (http://pc-pals.com/pics/smileys/thumb.gif)  Didn't need to use Windows Networking, as the USB Dongle software sorted it.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: ducky22 on Nov 12, 2007, 21:00:23
Quote from: Si6776 on Nov 12, 2007, 20:49:36
Done!  (http://pc-pals.com/pics/smileys/thumb.gif)  Didn't need to use Windows Networking, as the USB Dongle software sorted it.


hehe brilliant! i personally never liked the netgear software. I prefer to stick to the windows built in wireless config.

Glad you got everything working! :).
Title: Re: Is this a good deal?
Post by: Simon on Nov 12, 2007, 21:33:48
Have to admit, the Netgear software wasn't as user friendly as Windows, but it worked.  :)