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Title: Weird warranty
Post by: Rik on Sep 06, 2007, 11:45:28
I'm still salivating over the Eizo monitor this morning, it really does look stunning - and having a number of modes available means that I can 'relax' it for browsing or WP, while having the full punch available for image editing.

Anyway, there was no warranty card in the box, and nowhere on the Eizo site to register, so I gave them a call. The documentation states that the monitor has a five year warranty from the date of purchase. Only it's the date that the retailer purchases it from Eizo, not the date I purchase it from the retailer. Weird!!

Even more weird, Scan have had the monitor for the best part of a year. It surprises me that they would tie up that much cash in stock...
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Inactive on Sep 06, 2007, 11:51:03
Never come across anything like that before Rik, good job they aint had it in stock for 4 years 11 months..  ;)

As you say, one huge amount of dosh tied up in one item, seems a strange way to run a business, you would think they would order as requested.
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Rik on Sep 06, 2007, 12:01:42
Indeed - and they have several, across two colour variants. I'd be interested in a peek at their inventory.
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Lance on Sep 06, 2007, 12:25:45
I would like to have their inventory!
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Rik on Sep 06, 2007, 12:35:30
You and me both, Lance. :)
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: john on Sep 06, 2007, 13:06:44
The guy sitting next to me at work recently tried to return a computer power supply to Scan (in fact he lives just round the corner from them). It stopped working the day before the warranty ran out but they were closed when he telephoned so he left a message explaining the fault. However when he telephoned them the day after, they refused to honour the warranty because they said he had failed to return it before it expired. He explained that he couldn't return it because they were closed but the guy he spoke to didn't want to know. Anyway after a quick call to trading standards, who told him what to say, and calling Scan again resulted in them agreeing to replace it.
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Rik on Sep 06, 2007, 13:09:22
That's disappointing, but I suspect it's quite a common issue these days. I did have to nudge Scan to get them to resolve the monitor problem, but it was quite a gentle nudge and they did respond promptly and in a manner designed to minimise the inconvenience to me.
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: MoHux on Sep 06, 2007, 14:23:36
They had obviously taken a second look at your account Rik.  ::)

Mo
;D
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Rik on Sep 06, 2007, 14:39:24
You may have a point there. ;)
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Inactive on Sep 06, 2007, 23:43:07
I will continue to monitor progress on this thread..  :P
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Rik on Sep 07, 2007, 01:06:01
That's almost a groan, but not quite. :)

My friendly local Trading Standards department are now studying the warranty. They are unhappy with the terms as described to me, and want to see whether it's in breach of any statute. Although the warranty is in addition to my statutory rights, it apparently has to comply with aspects of the Sale of Goods Act. More as I get it.
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Glenn on Sep 07, 2007, 07:52:00
HP's business warranty is 3 years + month from the date of manufacture, but with the number of units that fly out of the warehouses, it is not a problem.
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Ray on Sep 07, 2007, 08:46:19
Quote from: Rik on Sep 07, 2007, 01:06:01


My friendly local Trading Standards department are now studying the warranty. They are unhappy with the terms as described to me, and want to see whether it's in breach of any statute.

As I would be Rik, I've always understood that a Warranty runs from the date of purchase!

(http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/c010.gif)
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Rik on Sep 07, 2007, 09:26:50
That's the odd thing, Ray. The warranty states that it runs from the date of purchase. It also states that it's only available to the original purchaser. Now, if Eizo say it runs from when Scan purchased it, they are also saying, logically, that Scan are the original purchaser and, therefore, that I have no warranty. Hopefully, my friend at Trading Standards will knock some sense into them. Equally hopefully, I'll never need the warranty anyway. If it comes to it, given the price, it's a small claims case against Scan...
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: john on Sep 07, 2007, 16:16:21
If you're not the original purchaser then are the goods not deeed to be secondhand and therefore not liable for VAT ?
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Rik on Sep 07, 2007, 16:18:04
I suspect only Eizo, if anyone, thinks that I'm not the original purchaser, John.
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Lance on Sep 07, 2007, 16:47:00
Indeed Scan will want to charge VAT so they can recover the VAT they paid on it in the first instance!
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: john on Sep 07, 2007, 16:51:45
I was just saying that you could use the VAT argument as proof it was not really secondhand and therefore Rik was indeed the original purchaser and the warranty should start from when he purchased it  ::)
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Rik on Sep 07, 2007, 16:56:12
Wouldn't a VAT registered trader have to charge tax even on second-hand goods, though, John?
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: john on Sep 07, 2007, 17:38:53
Don't ruin a good argument with facts Rik  ;D

Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Rik on Sep 07, 2007, 17:45:27
 ;D

Sorry...  :'(
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Inactive on Sep 08, 2007, 10:28:03
This sounds like a case of buying a pre - reg car, the Dealers buy and register a load of cars within certain months to attract volume discounts, but...a big but, they sell them as such, the warranty is reduced accordingly dependant on the date of sale to the 2nd owner, albeit the car is effectively brand new.

The pre-reg cars are obviously much cheaper than brand new ones, perhaps a case of seeking a discount if the same applies. ;)
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Rik on Sep 08, 2007, 10:33:12
Could be, though with a car, you would know the date of registration before purchase (or should do). It's not a question I've ever thought to ask in normal retail commerce, can you imagine going into Currys and asking when they were invoiced for something by the manufacturer??  ::)
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Inactive on Sep 08, 2007, 10:44:03
Agreed Rik, something I have never come across before.

I suppose it would be legally classed as " Used " or " Second Hand ", even if it isn't.
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Rik on Sep 08, 2007, 10:48:28
Quote from: Inactive on Sep 08, 2007, 10:44:03
I suppose it would be legally classed as " Used " or " Second Hand ", even if it isn't.

That's the interesting bit. If it is classed as second-hand, it should have been declared as such. I don't blame Scan in this situation, but the Eizo attitude is weird.
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: MoHux on Sep 11, 2007, 00:29:26
Quote from: Rik on Sep 08, 2007, 10:48:28
That's the interesting bit. If it is classed as second-hand, it should have been declared as such. I don't blame Scan in this situation, but the Eizo attitude is weird.

Blimmin furriners!!  ::)
Title: Re: Weird warranty
Post by: Rik on Sep 11, 2007, 08:56:14
It must have puzzled Trading Standards too, Mo, I've heard nothing since...  :'(