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Title: Problems tonight?
Post by: psp83 on Sep 04, 2007, 21:36:56
Anybody else getting slow speeds, high pings and sites loading slower than normal tonight?
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: ReDGryphoN on Sep 04, 2007, 22:14:16
Nope, all sweet and solid

ReD

MAABOF
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: drummer on Sep 05, 2007, 01:48:33
Today (Monday 4th) was a total pig for speed all day, but it's all back to normal now.  :)

I joined IDNet on Sept 1st 06 so this is (sort of) my 1st anniversary.

I'm struggling to moan about something, so I'll stick with BT shoving me onto interleaving when everything was disconnnected over the Xmas hols.

Long story short; moving to IDNet was probably the only sensible broadband decision I've ever made...
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: Lance on Sep 05, 2007, 08:06:27
Well have a anniversary karma!

I didn't notice any problems at all last night, fwiw.
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: Inactive on Sep 05, 2007, 08:09:42
Likewise, have another Karma for your anniversary, I also didn't have any speed issues. ;)
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: Rik on Sep 05, 2007, 09:03:11
I wasn't on line, so I didn't have any speed problems either. ;) Congratulations on your anniversary, Drummer. :)
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: psp83 on Sep 05, 2007, 18:49:13
Back to my normal 7megs and 16ms pings tonight :)
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: Rik on Sep 06, 2007, 00:13:23
Have you looked at your error count, Paul? I just wonder whether you had a noise problem which was causing re-transmissions.
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: psp83 on Sep 08, 2007, 14:51:09
Wheres the error count on netgears?
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: Rik on Sep 08, 2007, 14:59:31
Hi Paul

Enter this in the browser address bar:

http://192.168.0.1/setup.cgi?todo=debug

which should result in a screen which just says 'Debug enable'.
(That's assuming that you haven't changed the router's IP address from the default).

Then exit from the web interface and open a command-line window. Type:

telnet 192.168.0.1

You should get a BusyBox welcome message to confirm that your telnet connection is established.

Now type:

cat /proc/avalanche/avsar_modem_stats

You'll see the errors listed.
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: psp83 on Sep 08, 2007, 15:21:36
doesnt work :(

I get the welcome screen, but when i type in the line, says it cant find it or something
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: Rik on Sep 08, 2007, 15:22:37
If you were using Firefox, try from IE. Netgears seem to be hard-coded for IE.

Thought: If you're running Routerstats, quit that first.
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: psp83 on Sep 08, 2007, 15:28:36
ok, debug is now on.

I've telnet the router and got the BusyBox message.

When i type in cat /proc/avalanche/avsar_modem_stats i get cat: /proc/avalanche/avsar_modem_stats: No such file or directory
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: Rik on Sep 08, 2007, 15:33:52
My typo, sorry:

cat proc/avalanche/avsar_modem_stats.
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: psp83 on Sep 08, 2007, 15:38:20
still the same message :(
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: Rik on Sep 08, 2007, 15:40:05
Odd, I've just done it, hence spotting the typo. What firmware version are you running?
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: psp83 on Sep 08, 2007, 16:01:58
I've got the stats up now, I've got a DG834PN so must be different commands.

telnet 192.168.0.1
cd usr/sbin
adslctl info --stats

Will post stats in a min.
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: psp83 on Sep 08, 2007, 16:03:22
adslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime  Channel: FAST, Upstream rate = 448 Kbps, Downstream rate = 790
4 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode:                   G.DMT
Channel:                Fast
Trellis:                ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):       8.1             26.0
Attn(dB):       41.0            25.5
Pwr(dBm):       19.8            12.1
Max(Kbps):      7936            1192
Rate (Kbps):    7904            448
                        G.dmt framing
K:              248(0)          15
R:              0               0
S:              1               1
D:              1               1
                        ADSL2 framing
MSGc:           1               1
B:              248             15
M:              1               1
T:              1               1
R:              0               0
S:              1.0000          1.0000
L:              1992            128
D:              1               1
                        Counters
SF:             4061763         4061761
SFErr:          131576          0
RS:             0               0
RSCorr:         0               0
RSUnCorr:       0               0

HEC:            70895           0
OCD:            1               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    1287025403              0
Data Cells:     12722849                0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

ES:             7701            0
SES:            2422            0
UAS:            10              0
Total time = 19 hours 11 min 5 sec
SF  = 4061763
CRC = 131576
LOS = 3
LOF = 0
ES  = 7701
Latest 1 day time = 19 hours 11 min 5 sec
SF  = 4061763
CRC = 131576
LOS = 3
LOF = 0
ES  = 7701
Latest 15 minutes time = 11 min 5 sec
SF  = 39168
CRC = 7
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES  = 7
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
SF  = 52931
CRC = 5
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES  = 4
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
SF  = 0
CRC = 0
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES  = 0
15 minutes interval [-30 min to -15 min] time = 15 min 0 sec
SF  = 52930
CRC = 10
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES  = 10
15 minutes interval [-45 min to -30 min] time = 15 min 0 sec
SF  = 52930
CRC = 3
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES  = 3
15 minutes interval [-60 min to -45 min] time = 15 min 0 sec
SF  = 52990
CRC = 5
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES  = 5
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: Rik on Sep 08, 2007, 16:07:40
Useful to know the command set has changed, thanks. :)

Those errors don't look too high. I'd suggest you have a word with support on Monday, see if they can see any issues with your line.
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: psp83 on Sep 08, 2007, 16:16:51
I'll pop some new stats in an email to them tomorrow night..

Just to let you know. you can also change your SNR with telnet on DG834PN routers, i dont know if it works on older versions of DG834's
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: Rik on Sep 08, 2007, 16:20:21
Is it a Broadcom chipset? That would allow SNR tweaking. It was used in the 834GT but not the 834 and 834G.
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: psp83 on Sep 08, 2007, 16:26:22
Have no idea, All i got told is that the chipset is different to the one dg834+ modems sold by ISPs.

Theres a tutorial online for moding .PN routers. And SNR is one of them.
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: Rik on Sep 08, 2007, 16:30:35
It probably is the Broadcom, then.
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: psp83 on Sep 08, 2007, 16:30:46
Just got told that the chipset for DG834PN is called... Conexant... Don't know if this person is correct though.
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: Rik on Sep 08, 2007, 16:31:34
Could well be, they've been making inroads into the market of late.
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: psp83 on Sep 08, 2007, 16:38:47
That chipset uses MIMO technology..

All i know is that this router might be the cause of my <6 margin problems. Simon from idnet has the same router and he gets problems that a reboot fixes same as me..

Its good for wirless only with my laptop. Any usb sticks getting a wireless connection keeps dropping.

So if anyone thinking of getting this router. Dont. Get a DG834 v3 as i've worked with plenty of them and had no issues.
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: Rik on Sep 08, 2007, 16:40:20
I confess that I'm always reluctant to adopt a pre-standard model - there always seems to be a downside that they don't tell you about. :(
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: psp83 on Sep 08, 2007, 16:44:13
Well i got this one because of the 108mbps and adaptive wireless... Works around interference and stops dead spots.

Well maybe thats true, but i can't seem to keep a good stable wireless connection except with my laptop around the house and in the garden, Where i am now. Its like being wired to the router (using builtin wireless)
Title: Re: Problems tonight?
Post by: Rik on Sep 08, 2007, 19:05:09
I'm very stodgy :) I rarely use wireless, when I do it's not too far away from the router, so no problems with 11g.