I keep reading in magazines and on web-sites that MS is now adding the Windows 10 upgrade to the optional updates.
So far neither of our 8.1 desktops has listed this option - am I alone in being ignored by Microsoft ?
PS - I have no wish to upgrade at present, I will wait (as always) until I/we buy new PCs.
I'm with you all the way Dave, I never upgrade to a new OS. Windows 10 is waiting to install on one of our Win 7 laptops so I've stopped updates. If the machine gets damaged I'm not too bothered.
I have a Canon Scanner that appears not to work under W10, so I am also sticking to W7.
I install security updates, but am very careful about what else I install. I have a list of those updates to avoid so far.
KB2952664,KB2976978,KB2977759,KB2990214,KB3021917,KB3022345,KB3035583,KB3068708,KB3074683,KB3075249,KB3080149,KB3083324 and KB3112343.
Some are know to create W10 prompts and download W10 stuff ready for installing.
I use a Canon MP610 multi-function printer which Canon say does not work with Win 10, installed the 8.1 driver and all the functions works fine.
Microsoft say that Office 2010 won't work with Win 10 but it works perfectly fine!
Conversely Microsoft says that Outlook 356 does work with Windows 10 but it doesn't unless it was installed prior to installing/upgrading Windows 10.
The fix is to run /sfc scannow which locates and fixes a corrupt Windows 10 file that you just installed a few minutes ago when you upgraded to Windows 10. In fact the same corrupted file exists on all versions of Windows 10 installation media.
I still detest Windows 10.
Office 2010 worked fine with Windows 10 but I moved up to Office 365 and that works fine as well.
My Canon Scanner 8800F works fine as does my Canon iP6700D but my Canon Sephy CP780 does not. :)
I have a Canon Scanner 8800F too - a wonderful beast! The simplest way to get rid of Win 10 prompts and icons from your computer is to download a very reliable little program http://ultimateoutsider.com/ and follow the easy instructions. I've used it on all my Win 7 machines. 8-)
That looks very useful, Clive.
Quote from: Clive on Apr 15, 2016, 22:32:57
I have a Canon Scanner 8800F too - a wonderful beast! The simplest way to get rid of Win 10 prompts and icons from your computer is to download a very reliable little program http://ultimateoutsider.com/ and follow the easy instructions. I've used it on all my Win 7 machines. 8-)
is it the first one on the download page as all I get from that link is some badly translated clip promoting the site and something about do you like make song :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Gosh, I'd better check the url Baz.
Ah, many apologies Baz, you need to add downloads to the url. http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads
What you need to download is GWX. (Get Windows 10). It's very effective at removing all traces of Microsoft nagging.
It wasn't difficult to find.
Woman gets $10,000 payout after Windows 10 upgrade. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36640464)
I would say that she is telling porkies when she says she had never heard of Windows 10, even my 88 year old mother has heard of it.
I successfully downloaded it on my netbook yesterday. Simplicity itself.
Quote from: Glenn on Jun 29, 2016, 10:35:03
I would say that she is telling porkies when she says she had never heard of Windows 10, even my 88 year old mother has heard of it.
Third world countries and all that... (joking aside, everyone is individual and not the same as us, so perhaps they were not in the tech bubble)
I decided to see what W 10 was like and what of my software would work by installing it on my semi redundant W 7 netbook. It had not been updated for about 6 months. It spent about 2 hours checking for updates and then invited me to download W 10 which I started. For about two hours it has been getting setup files (although it reports 0% progress). I am connected by ethernet cable and have fibre connection at 51Mbps. Is this normal?
Quote from: tehidyman on Jun 30, 2016, 11:36:38
I decided to see what W 10 was like and what of my software would work by installing it on my semi redundant W 7 netbook. It had not been updated for about 6 months. It spent about 2 hours checking for updates and then invited me to download W 10 which I started. For about two hours it has been getting setup files (although it reports 0% progress). I am connected by ethernet cable and have fibre connection at 51Mbps. Is this normal?
I can't say if that's normal or not but I had a similar experience updating some of my systems. I do recall leaving one laptop running over night. It got there in the end.
Quote from: Clive on Jun 29, 2016, 11:41:06
I successfully downloaded it on my netbook yesterday. Simplicity itself.
And over the past couple of days I've managed to download it onto Mrs Clive's Dell laptop. It took two long days to download - day and night. But I may have accidentally stopped it on one occasion causing it to start all over again. It seemed more of a black art than a science. ::) Only one problem which is a graphics driver it has been searching for but has failed to find. But it seems to work fine and Mrs Clive loves it. Just my Asus left now and the clock is ticking if I want it for free. :(
August the second is the date for the major update to Windows 10. Watch this space. :)
I've sorted the display driver whatever that is but I think it's Doomsville for the Asus which is refusing to do anything at all other than show a white downloading circle. ::) I read that it will be impossible to reinstall Win 7 from the partition if it doesn't have the SP2. :dunno: "What to do?" as my grandson would say. :bawl:
Thanks for the warning Den, I'll be in my bunker. :facepalm:
On the other laptop install the media creation tool, download the Windows 10 ISO file (make sure it is the same version as your Win 7 laptop) follow the creation tool instructions to make a bootable pen drive. Locate and note down the licence key. Save any data to an external device.
http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/windows-10-clean-install-using-media-creation-tool#slide-0-field_images-57241
Thanks very much Glenn.
http://www.geek.com/microsoft/final-windows-10-upgrade-nag-takes-over-your-whole-screen-1660359/
Yeah... Hmmm. I'll be doing a minor upgrade to this PC (old AMD 4 core to 6 core) at some time (actually, I could do it now... BRB :P), the thing limiting me from making a new PC, is I honestly don't want to change OS.
Linux is good and does everything I want. It does however loose some of my Windows software (Google Sketchup etc). That with drivers and different controls (no windows key or alt key use as more Mac like shortcuts :( ), mean I'm reluctant to make a permanent switch.
However, Windows 10? I have not got time for that, they can get lost.
I could get to the windows 10 upgrade on the PC I'm reconditioning/cleaning up... if only Win8 would update. It's been 6 hours, and on 15% :facepalm:
It did update! ;D
But then it gave me that new "Warning, the free Windows 10 offer soon expires, older windows are not secure and have no security updates*! Update now (or cancel)". With one little problem, as the PC was left just to update, I only had my spare keyboard plugged in. My mouse is being used on the laptop. And did MS allow keyboard shortcuts, you know, that they allow in every single app/program/OS they ever made? No. So I just gave up and went to bed.
This morning I'm going to install 8.1, and image the disk so if the Win 10 deletes the recovery partition (It's been known to :slap:) I can still restore to 8 should any drivers fail.
Less than a month to go before the big Windows 10 update and that is the future so why stay in the past. >:D
How am I staying in the past? That is one of the most... I'm not even replying. ;)
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About to convert my last remaining pre-10 box. It's a virtual machine so if it all goes horribly wrong I can always just roll it back. :fingers:
Next week is the big date for Windows 10 updates, Redstone will arrive. 8-)
Gawd. :bawl:
While Windows 10 Anniversary Update doesn't officially go live until 2 August 2016, what seems to be essentially the finished patch - build 14393.5 - is now available to "Fast Ring" members of the Windows Insider programme.
It's on Windows Update as KB3176927, for those interested.
The Windows 10 Feedback Hub says the update offers "improved reliability and performance of Microsoft Edge with AdBlock and LastPass extensions enabled".
Edge needs all the help it can get to run at anything even close to an acceptable level on a mid-tier machine, so this is potentially great news.
End users will also be pleased to hear that the extensions "should continue to work" after installing other extension updates from the Windows Store.
Meanwhile, crippling battery issues with portable Windows 10 devices are also being addressed in 14393.5, with the promise that Microsoft has "fixed an issue" in which "runaway CPU processes" were causing battery drain while devices were idle.
"We also fixed a battery life issue due to the proximity sensor always running on some devices", it states, vaguely.
Windows 10 Anniversary Update now available for Insider programme Fast Ring
Update 14393.5 is officially here, but only for the privileged
The update also fixes flaws that prevented some Store apps from launching "due to a licensing issue".
Anyway, if you use Windows Update and aren't yet upset by it, you'll be pleased to know that issues with systems utilising Connected Standby (formerly InstantGo - the smartphone-like power management setup Windows 8 brought to the table) not running Windows Update are now fixed - so way more updates for you.
Further fixes include removing broken Search boxes in Store apps, and an issue where "keyboard input on some Windows tablet devices would not rotate to landscape normally".
We're actually not entirely sure what that last one means, but there's still plenty of times our old Surface Pro boots with the screen completely upside down, so reorientation generally may still be an issue.
http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/news/2466001/windows-10-anniversary-update-now-available-for-insider-programme-fast-ring
They also forced the "allow apps to install on Microsoft command" option for apps on both Home and Pro Win 10. So now we get forced installs of Candy Crush and Cut the Rope. :/ :facepalm: :)x
After a couple of initial bugs, I'm quite happy running Win 10 Pro I have to say.
The anniversary update is causing machines to freeze for up to 2 minutes, there doesn't appear to be a fix at present http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2466959/windows-10-anniversary-update-causing-crashing-system-freezes-general-unpleasantness-say-users
Upgraded both my computers to the new Windows 10 (update) and I must admit it's superb. much faster and smoother. ;D
I upgraded 3 and all of them freeze. Rolling them back today, the only common theme in the 3 PC's is that they all boot from Samsung SSD's, apart from that they are 2 different models of laptop and a home assembled PC.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/4vufpo/windows_10_fully_freezes_after_anniversary_update/
This isn't good, given that the upgrade is automatic and you don't get any choice about having it. >:(
Not sure if it's available in the Home edition, but in Pro you can defer updates; Settings > Updates & Security > Windows Updates > Advanced Options
I'll be looking at that tonight, Glenn. I hope the option is on 'Home' edition given my new laptop has a Samsung SSD I'd rather wait and not take a risk upgrading yet.
Lance, I don't think it is linked to the Samsung SSD's, this from the link above seems to be working for some people;
Update 12: Okay guys, just woke up to check my inbox. A few potential fixes have surfaced, but still not one consistent solution. It seems this update brought many many bugs with similar outcomes. Anyway, just in case you want to try your luck:
u/Dooth said changing the location of Documents, Pictures, etc. back to C:/ solved his crashing. More users repored that changing the App install location back to system drive solved their freezing issues. These might not be possible for some SSD users with limited space on their system drive.
u/skddanny advises to disable AppXsvc in regedit in safe mode, find HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\AppXSvc, set the value for Start as 4 and restart to normal mode. More users confirmed this. For one user it didn't work. I advise you try it if you haven't rolled back yet. WARNING: One user reported a BSOD in 90s after applying the tweak. Could be unrelated, could be not.
Quote from: Glenn on Aug 04, 2016, 11:55:03
Not sure if it's available in the Home edition, but in Pro you can defer updates; Settings > Updates & Security > Windows Updates > Advanced Options
Done. It seemed to have just started downloading the updates, but it was at 0%, so hopefully I've stopped it in time.
I can't see the option on mine :(
On reading all the above, all I can say is that either I'm a lucky sod or I'm doing something different to everyone else. W10 is running so well on both machines. :)
No problems here on any PCs. I'm running version 1511 (OS Build 10586.494) on this PC and Windows 10 insists there are no updates available for me :thumb: Being last in the queue sometimes pays dividends it seems ;D
You don't have to be last in the queue. Just click on "all settings" then click on "update and security" and then on "learn more". You can then click on "update windows 10" and you have jumped the queue. :D
You must be under 'Z'. ;D
Quote from: Den on Aug 05, 2016, 18:03:47
You don't have to be last in the queue. Just click on "all settings" then click on "update and security" and then on "learn more". You can then click on "update windows 10" and you have jumped the queue. :D
Thanks but I think on this occasion I'll just sit it out ;)
Quote from: Simon on Aug 05, 2016, 18:15:33
You must be under 'Z'. ;D
That has definitely been a major factor when there's an email involved so it's possible.
At long last my three Win 10 laptops have updated themselves. Each on different days.
Mine is still struggling with one update. Keeps saying "we can't install it", but bloody "we" doesn't have the courtesy to say why. Presumably "I" don't need to know as my machine now belongs to Microsoft. >:(
It's always belonged to Microsoft Simon. >:(
Never more so than with Windows 10.
My main PC updated today. It provided a fix for an issue I had dragging windows around but no fixes for the multitude of other issues I have including Windows not recognising a number of USB devices. Unfortunately it's also introduced another problem, all my major programs suffer from lag for a few minutes after loading up. There's little or no disk churning so I've no idea what's going on.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/4vufpo/windows_10_fully_freezes_after_anniversary_update/
One chap over on Pistonheads thinks he has resolved the issue
QuoteTouch wood, i may have fixed it... i did the following, based on various theories online:
- disabled prefetch & superfetch
- disabled windows search
- disabled chromes preloading of pages
But then i also tried to find updated SATA drivers for my motherboard (ASUS PZ68-V Pro) and found they didnt have any for Win10. Prior to Win10 i had always been strict about using the install disk, but with Win10 the OS seemed to provide all the drivers from the get-go. However, forcing it to update with the Win7 drivers it now means theres an Intel controller managing the drives, and my D Drive (1TB storage drive) now shows up in task manager along with the C drive.
Was doing a bit of surfing and gaming last night since that driver update and didnt experience any 100% C-drive lock ups or stability issues
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=95&t=1614457
Thanks, that does sound like a similar issue.
From MS http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-performance/windows-10-may-freeze-after-installing-the/5a60d75d-120a-4502-873c-8bfec65c82d0?page=1&auth=1
Thanks again Glenn, hopefully there will be a proper fix soon.
Like, taking us back to Windows 7? :D
I wish!
Quote from: Simon on Aug 15, 2016, 20:41:33
Mine is still struggling with one update. Keeps saying "we can't install it", but bloody "we" doesn't have the courtesy to say why. Presumably "I" don't need to know as my machine now belongs to Microsoft. >:(
I get very fed up with "we" too!
I have now removed Norton and all outside system managers (Iola) etc' and installed Bullguard and Addguard and allowed Defender to carry out back ground checks.
Windows 10 is running so smooth it's amazing. Norton was becoming so intrusive and telling me to reboot every time they updated anything and I got fed up with the adverts on every site I visited.
I would recommend Windows 10 as the best Windows ever just as Microsoft have claimed. ;D
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/704120/Windows-10-Anniversary-Update-Crash-BSOD-Amazon-Kindle-USB/amp
:whistle:
I read that before and as I never plug my Kindle in to my computer or in fact can not see a reason to plug it in I just ignored the advice. ;D
Well I've just backed up all the content from my Kindle Paper white to my W10 Pc via USB without any problem! :o :)
Quote from: Den on Aug 28, 2016, 09:57:23
I have now removed Norton and all outside system managers (Iola) etc' and installed Bullguard and Addguard and allowed Defender to carry out back ground checks.
Windows 10 is running so smooth it's amazing. Norton was becoming so intrusive and telling me to reboot every time they updated anything and I got fed up with the adverts on every site I visited.
I would recommend Windows 10 as the best Windows ever just as Microsoft have claimed. ;D
http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-update-breaks-powershell-and-microsoft-wont-fix-it-until-next-week/
A scheduled task I had set to run automated NAS backups ran fine in W10 v1511 till Anniversary Updates v1607.
For any user scheduled task, if the condition 'Start only if the following network connection is available' is checked and set to a named network, the task fails. When the task is run manually the error 'Task Scheduler service not available' arises. If the generic network 'Any connection' option is selected instead, the task runs fine.
Thought this might be helpful to those who have not noticed backups are failing or are puzzling on the cause. My work around is to uncheck the condition 'Start only if the following network connection is available' or leave it checked and select the generic 'Any connection.'
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-performance/anniversary-update-version-1607-build14393-breaks/d034ab52-5d49-4b92-976a-a1355b5a6e6d?page=2 (http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-performance/anniversary-update-version-1607-build14393-breaks/d034ab52-5d49-4b92-976a-a1355b5a6e6d?page=2) See David_882 Aug 11 2016. Seems MS confirm.
They do manage to break the oddest things with these updates!
I am very seriously considering upgrading my Windows 10 laptop back to Windows 7. I just hate it! It is the slowest, most invasive and annoying operating system I have ever used.
I have just spent the last two hours trying to change my anti virus software, just to eliminate my usual programs as being the culprit for the computer crawling along and taking 10 minutes to boot up. I tried one but didn't like it, so decided to uninstall it. That took an hour, because, at the same time, fecking Windows decided it was going to install a massive update, and there was nothing I could do to stop it, even if it had had the good grace to inform me that the upgrade was taking place. I know you can defer the updates, but then they just build up and take even longer. I've had it with W10, as the sooner I cat get rid of it, the better.
I've already got a DVD for Windows 7, and have seen licenses online for less than a tenner. Are these too good to be true?
I reserve the three days starting the 2nd Tuesday of each month for looking for, and installing, the Windows 10 updates on our three PCs.
But should you have to do that? I have my Windows 7 machine set to inform me when updates are available, then I download and apply them at my own convenience. I'm bloody sick of Windows 10 ("We" :mad:) assuming ownership of my computer.
Last night's Win 10 update was terrifyingly big and just went on and on. I thought my machine was broken. Well it is because it's foretelling a hard drive failure but it's a ten year old Dell so I can't really complain. I just need to get Thunderbird e-mails off it and that looks easier said than done. Acronis which is installed on it doesn't seem to work too good with Win 10. ::)
I'm pretty sure they gave Windows 10 away because they would have been sued to high heaven if they had asked for money for it, as it's clearly not fit for purpose. The price for allowing your machine to be infected with it, however, is far greater than the cost of a proper operating system.
I'm not having a particularly good experience with Windows 10 to put it mildly. Although speed isn't an issue for me, just about everything else is. Unfortunately rolling back is really not an option so I'm going to have to live with it >:(
It was not Microsoft that decided to do the update at the same time as your antivirus change it was you (I did the same and it took for ever). The lesson learned was if you want to update a program check that something else is not waiting in the wings.
I hated Bullguard Security Software so I changed to Kaspersky and my computer seems to run a lot better.
I have always moved up to the next operating system and sometimes it's fine and sometimes not but I think Windows 10 is the best yet and I like the thought that instead after a couple of years they will want to move me to Windows 11 they will keep improving Windows 10.
So I say stick with it Simon why change back to a system that will become outdated very soon. >:D
I think Den is right. I'm forced to keep one of my machines on Win 7 as it won't update whatever method I try. And I've tried them all. Most of my software has been compatible apart from Acronis and Java for which I have a use. Something to do with live sheep cams I believe. ;D
Quote from: Den on Sep 22, 2016, 19:38:10
It was not Microsoft that decided to do the update at the same time as your antivirus change it was you (I did the same and it took for ever). The lesson learned was if you want to update a program check that something else is not waiting in the wings.
But why should you have to do that? I want to do stuff on MY computer at MY convenience, not when Microsoft decides to allow me to use it for a while! Windows Updates should be able to detect when the machine is in use, and back off until such time as resources are freed, and the updates won't have such an impact on what the user is doing.
As it happens, Kaspersky was the one I tried and didn't like, as it's not compatible with my browser (which isn't Microsoft!), so I'm using Bitdefender at the moment, but it's no quicker at firing up than F-Secure, so I will be going back to that in due course, especially as I get it for free.
Quote from: Simon on Sep 22, 2016, 23:36:40
I want to do stuff on MY computer at MY convenience, not when Microsoft decides to allow me to use it for a while!
So buy Windows 10 Pro, which IIRC allows you to install the updates at your convenience.
Yes it does. That's why I bought it. :angel:
I've got what Windows 8.1 upgraded to. I'm not sure if that's the Pro version or not. After three days, the Anniversary edition has finally finished downloading (2.8Gb!!), and took an hour to install. It kept most of my settings intact, but it did revert my fonts to the defaults, and Windows Defender seems to want to start a fight with my installed anti-virus, but other than that, at least the machine is operational now.
Go to Control Panel, then system and security, then system and it will show the version you have. ;)
It was definitely the Mother of all Updates! ::)
Quote from: Clive on Sep 26, 2016, 10:39:33
It was definitely the Mother of all Updates! ::)
I think I just got it. It took the best part of an hour to update and saw fit to restore a large number of default settings :eyebrow:
"We" know best, Zap. :eyebrow:
This is the big problem - it always resets to the default settings which allow Microsoft to spy on you and deluge you with adverts.
Even worse, Cortana has just risen from the dead ::)
You may find these useful:
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/ultimate-windows-tweaker-4-windows-10
http://www.privacyprotectiontool.com/
I'll take a look although these days I assume everyone knows my preferences for peanut butter and rubber.
Did we really need to know that? :whistle:
Quote from: zappaDPJ on Sep 27, 2016, 13:33:33
Even worse, Cortana has just risen from the dead ::)
Some garlic and a cross worked for me Zap. ;D
;D :thumb:
Have a read http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/stop-automatic-driver-updates-windows-10
Unfortunately that seems to have now changed in the current version. >:(
Another huge update this afternoon, which practically disabled my computer while it was downloading and installing. This really is becoming a joke. :mad:
Someone else was complaining about this one yesterday. True to form I've not had it yet.
It might not be quite so bad if there was some sort of notification to tell you that an update is happening, as then you'd at least know why your machine is suddenly incapacitated. Or, even better, an option to delay it (once it has started downloading), so you could at least finish what you were doing.
Can't you defer updates in settings?
Yes, but then they just queue and build up, so when Micro$oft do eventually force them on you (which, apparently, they do), they will take even longer! :swoon:
Good point! :laugh:
The last Windows 10 update was on the 29th September so what was going on with your computer on Tuesday Simon? :facepalm:
It was definitely an update, as it requested a reboot and notified me afterwards that the computer has been updated.
Quote from: Den on Oct 05, 2016, 21:17:34
The last Windows 10 update was on the 29th September so what was going on with your computer on Tuesday Simon? :facepalm:
That explains why my PC says it's up-to-date. What is odd is a number of people clearly updated something during the last 48 hours because a lot of people are complaining about losing access to their P.C. for quite some time while the update took place.
MS recently disabled .Net framework on some instillations/updates. Possibly that? Or MSE?
They might be doing an Apple and deleting old features/files as they are/planning to do with iOS to save space on smaller devices?
As it is Windows 10, all bets are off... it could be anything.
Mrs Clive's ailing Dell did exactly the same. But my PC Specialist machine says it's up to date.
This update was a Features update. The monthly updates on the second Tuesday are Security updates - your computer looks the same after as before. Features updates are rarer and, as the name implies, alter the way Windows functions. For example, the thin column on the left when you press the Start button should look different after the recent update.
Microsoft pauses Windows 10 update after files disappear (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-45784482)
:facepalm:
And from the Red Top: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/08/microsoft_windows_10_pulled/
This update appears to have done something very nasty to a heavily used PC belonging to a family member which goes way beyond deleting files in the 'Documents' directory. It's also uninstalled or lost contact with everything that's ever been installed on the PC i.e. all the shortcuts on the backdrop are now broken and the applications no longer exist in the Start menu. Deleted applications like Candy Crush have been reinstalled and even worse, all restore points have been lost. All that's left apart from Windows 10 are photographs stored on a different physical drive.
I've since found a few other people reporting exactly the same issue.
Ouch!
Quote from: zappaDPJ on Oct 08, 2018, 19:40:43
This update appears to have done something very nasty to a heavily used PC belonging to a family member which goes way beyond deleting files in the 'Documents' directory. It's also uninstalled or lost contact with everything that's ever been installed on the PC i.e. all the shortcuts on the backdrop are now broken and the applications no longer exist in the Start menu. Deleted applications like Candy Crush have been reinstalled and even worse, all restore points have been lost. All that's left apart from Windows 10 are photographs stored on a different physical drive.
I've since found a few other people reporting exactly the same issue.
"Installed", Yeah... did you not realise Windows is not "updated" anymore? These have been full OS reinstalls with program migration since the first "Feature" update of 10. So this problem is very very common. :(
Surely there could be a case for litigation against Microsoft, given that they force these updates on Windows 10 users without giving them much choice about it. I think I've managed to delay the updates as far as the operating system will allow, but my guess is that Microsoft could quite easily bypass that if they chose to.
Here is a guide to possibly recover lost data. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW14InNzlP8
To me it shows that Microsoft doesn't give a to$$ about our data. They are totally reckless.
Or you could also argue that the majority of people don't give a toss about their important data, only keeping one copy of it.
https://betanews.com/2018/10/08/windows-insiders-reported-the-windows-10-file-deletion-problem-to-microsoft-months-ago/
Also
Taken from another site "On a german article about this they said, customers who are suffering from lost data should contact the Microsoft Support directly.
They can provide you with some tools to maybe restore most of the data - they wrote - but unconfirmed."
https://www.techspot.com/news/77410-microsoft-resumes-rollout-windows-10-october-2018-update.html
:hide:
My Asus laptop was trashed by the October update and won't boot up now. Amusingly, I had thrown out the rescue discs just a week earlier. :facepalm:
:argh:
Quote from: Clive on Nov 13, 2018, 22:29:24
My Asus laptop was trashed by the October update and won't boot up now. Amusingly, I had thrown out the rescue discs just a week earlier. :facepalm:
If you have another Windows 10 machine you can create another rescue disc/USB drive
https://www.techradar.com/uk/how-to/software/operating-systems/how-to-create-a-windows-10-recovery-disk-1302377
Thanks Glenn. That will be very useful.