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Title: Paranoid
Post by: sobranie on Oct 16, 2015, 15:06:00
I'm becoming completely paranoid about Win updates attempting to 'downgrade' my Win7 to Win 10 on 3 separate machines. So paranoid in fact that I've turned off Win updates (I hope).
I'm not completely happy with this approach but so far I've found 4 updates (blocked) that appear to be the M$ culprits, namely KB3035583, 3083710, 2952664 and 2999226.
I would appreciate any further 'nasties' info too.

Am also considering Linux on one of my 'puters but am completely flummoxed as to which version I should use. Becoming quite a minefield out there. All in all I'm getting a little fed up at the mo. Any help greatly appreciated.

Title: Re: Paranoid
Post by: Den on Oct 16, 2015, 19:49:47
So what you are saying is that you thinking of installing Linux even though you can't work out which one, rather than try Windows 10 on one machine.  :swoon:
Title: Re: Paranoid
Post by: Technical Ben on Oct 16, 2015, 20:33:06
When a ship is sinking, we'd welcome any alternative.

Mint gets a log of good recommendations. I liked it when I used it.
Title: Re: Paranoid
Post by: sobranie on Oct 16, 2015, 23:17:21
Quote from: Den on Oct 16, 2015, 19:49:47
So what you are saying is that you thinking of installing Linux even though you can't work out which one, rather than try Windows 10 on one machine.  :swoon:

I did put Win10 on one laptop as a trial and NO I did not get on with it.  Managed to revert back to Win7 after a few weeks which entailed a complete reformat + Win7 disc.  (NB: The so called automatic reversion from 10 to 7 completely knackered the laptop with numerous BSOD events.
I would like to try Linux hence my request as to which version I should use.
Title: Re: Paranoid
Post by: peterbeaumont on Oct 17, 2015, 08:41:11
You could do a lot worse than trying Linux Lite... https://www.linuxliteos.com/ (https://www.linuxliteos.com/)

I've installed it for a few friends and it adequately suits their needs - the support Forum is extremely helpful too.
Title: Re: Paranoid
Post by: sobranie on Oct 17, 2015, 13:00:46
Thanks. Will try the lite version.
Title: Re: Paranoid
Post by: colirv on Oct 18, 2015, 14:43:44
I'm really puzzled by the different experiences of Windows 10. I upgraded three PCs/laptops (two from W7, one from W8.1). All went without a hitch, and Windows 10 is definitely faster, more stable and (IMHO) easier to use than any of its predecessors.
Title: Re: Paranoid
Post by: Glenn on Oct 18, 2015, 15:11:21
 :iagree:
Title: Re: Paranoid
Post by: ST Driver on Oct 18, 2015, 15:14:00
Window10  just works for me. No problems with update from 8.1 and so much better even with touch screen.

Steve
Title: Re: Paranoid
Post by: Keithj on Oct 18, 2015, 15:48:05
My laptop spent a couple of hours working on the Win 10 "upgrade", then rolled back to Win 7 with a message that it was missing a driver for the webcam.   Fortunately, it ended up exactly where it started, with no damage done.

The desktop gave up asking me to upgrade.   It works, I'm happy.
Title: Re: Paranoid
Post by: zappaDPJ on Oct 18, 2015, 17:37:04
Quote from: colirv on Oct 18, 2015, 14:43:44
I'm really puzzled by the different experiences of Windows 10. I upgraded three PCs/laptops (two from W7, one from W8.1). All went without a hitch, and Windows 10 is definitely faster, more stable and (IMHO) easier to use than any of its predecessors.

It puzzles me as well. The PC I upgraded that won't boot had an up-to-date version of Windows 7, the latest AMD Video drivers, MSE, Firefox, a very lightweight custom installation of Office 2010 and nothing else. The hardware is around 3-4 years old.

The 2 year old HP Pavilion laptop I upgraded takes around 30 minutes to boot, fails to load the start menu and reverts to the user login screen with no visible cursor.

My main PC does boot but arrives at the desktop in 800x600. Virtually everything I run will crash at some point if they run at all. e.g. JRiver Media Centre won't run because its detected that the operating system has change which of course it has.

The iMac I've just bought works flawlessly though as do the 3 iPads we are now using :eyebrow:

I rather liked Windows 7, despised 8/8.1 with a passion and was hoping for great things from 10. To say I've been disappointed is an understatement. At the moment the only thing stopping me from ditching the PC platform is it'll cost me somewhere in the region of £4,000 to replace all the software I use with iOS versions
Title: Re: Paranoid
Post by: Ray on Oct 18, 2015, 17:38:40
Quote from: colirv on Oct 18, 2015, 14:43:44
I'm really puzzled by the different experiences of Windows 10. I upgraded three PCs/laptops (two from W7, one from W8.1). All went without a hitch, and Windows 10 is definitely faster, more stable and (IMHO) easier to use than any of its predecessors.

No problems here either on 3 Desktops and one Laptop.
Title: Re: Paranoid
Post by: Technical Ben on Oct 18, 2015, 18:45:54
Quote from: colirv on Oct 18, 2015, 14:43:44
I'm really puzzled by the different experiences of Windows 10. I upgraded three PCs/laptops (two from W7, one from W8.1). All went without a hitch, and Windows 10 is definitely faster, more stable and (IMHO) easier to use than any of its predecessors.

Same could be said of those cars that exploded etc. It's not a level playing field.

Some of us are dyslexic. Some of us have specific work requirements. Some of our family/friends only know the Windows 7/8 buttons, and at 65+ (that is also without an experience of PCs changing) it may take them weeks to learn the new layouts (or may have lost entire features such as DVD/photo creation).

Others like me, just see where it crashes on other peoples systems and decides it's not worth the hassle for zero improvement (the "it's faster" crowd probably don't know how to trim Win 7 etc to be as quick, as both boot in 1 second on new hardware, so how 10 is faster, I don't care, and I care less when my system takes 60 seconds and I turn it on once a day :P ).

It's like all my friends telling me "Oh, I have no trouble drinking milk.../using right handed appliances" well yes, because your you, I'm me. World of difference! :D