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Technical News & Discussion => IDNet Help => Topic started by: Tacitus on Jul 04, 2015, 17:09:32

Title: Ping
Post by: Tacitus on Jul 04, 2015, 17:09:32
In the days when I had ADSL I consistently got a Ping of around 27ms - not good but not as bad as it could be. 

I'm now on FTTC and for curiosity tried a Ping to idnet.net and found I'm still getting around 30ms.  I'm not a gamer so perhaps it doesn't matter, but I've always had the impression that it should be significantly better when using a fibre connection.

Am I right or is this about par for the course?

Ping has started ...
PING idnet.net (212.69.36.176): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 212.69.36.176: icmp_seq=0 ttl=62 time=30.264 ms
64 bytes from 212.69.36.176: icmp_seq=1 ttl=62 time=30.194 ms
64 bytes from 212.69.36.176: icmp_seq=2 ttl=62 time=30.869 ms
64 bytes from 212.69.36.176: icmp_seq=3 ttl=62 time=31.131 ms
64 bytes from 212.69.36.176: icmp_seq=4 ttl=62 time=30.401 ms
64 bytes from 212.69.36.176: icmp_seq=5 ttl=62 time=30.496 ms
64 bytes from 212.69.36.176: icmp_seq=6 ttl=62 time=29.870 ms
64 bytes from 212.69.36.176: icmp_seq=7 ttl=62 time=30.161 ms
64 bytes from 212.69.36.176: icmp_seq=8 ttl=62 time=30.154 ms
64 bytes from 212.69.36.176: icmp_seq=9 ttl=62 time=30.025 ms

--- idnet.net ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 29.870/30.357/31.131/0.367 ms

Ping has stopped
Title: Re: Ping
Post by: zappaDPJ on Jul 05, 2015, 02:35:37
My experience has been that you would expect to see a drop under those circumstances.
Title: Re: Ping
Post by: Gary on Jul 05, 2015, 11:36:34
A lot can depend on what router/modem combo and cab you are on, there has been issues with G.inp on Huawei cab using ECI modems and its now being re-rolled out with G.inp on downstream only. If you get an all in VDSL2 router and modem make sure it can do G.inp and G.fast as well as that is on its way too supposedly next year.  ::).
Title: Re: Ping
Post by: pctech on Jul 05, 2015, 14:45:40
Could also be interleaving or is that no longer used under G.INP?

Title: Re: Ping
Post by: Tacitus on Jul 07, 2015, 10:14:56
I'm currently using a Draytek 2760 all-in-one on a Huawei cabinet which does have G.INP switched on.  The current Draytek firmware doesn't use G.INP or vectoring but there are some beta versions available which do.  The Zyxel I tried did have G.INP switched on and TBH it didn't appear to make much difference to speeds but I didn't check the ping times whilst using it. 

I've been a bit wary of the Draytek Beta stuff although I must admit I didn't think using it might affect the ping times.  Might be worth a shot.
Title: Re: Ping
Post by: MisterW on Jul 07, 2015, 17:19:33
QuoteThe Zyxel I tried did have G.INP switched on and TBH it didn't appear to make much difference to speeds but I didn't check the ping times whilst using it.
It'll take the DSLAM a while (~24h I think!) to recognise that there's something at the other end that is G.INP capable. It will then switch to a G.INP profile rather than the fallback situation for a non-G.INP capable device.

Edit: @Tacitus, If you're interested ( or need some light bedtime reading :) ) then there's a lengthy thread on the PN forums here http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,136287.0.html discussing G.INP and the consequences with various modem/routers, not sure if there's a Draytek mention though...