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Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: Lance on Jul 23, 2007, 12:55:32
Here's a challenge for you all - find me a laptop for £800 or less (or might be persuaded to stretch a little further). It will mainly be used for office work, although it will also be used for DVD's and the occasional game.

I'm going to ask for a Core 2 Duo processor and 2gb Ram. Hard disk size isn't too important, but 100GB+ would be nice. As for screen size, 14.1" I would say is minimum and widescreen would be nice. Weight isn't too much of an issue as it won't be carried far.

To start you off, I've costed up a laptop on HP's website. I admit though, I have cheated as I get a discount on the normal prices anyway (employer benefit :), plus I can get an additional 15% off as a special offer. What do you guys and girls think?



BASE MODEL   HP Pavilion dv9500 notebook PC with Intel mobile technology

When only the best will do, go for the HP Pavilion dv9500 Entertainment Notebook PC. Loaded with leading edge technologies such as Intel® Core™ 2 Duo processors , this 17" notebook is a dream entertainment machine.
Common features for this series:
1.   dimensions 15.6" (L) x 11.65" (W) x 1.65" (H) - sophisticated design weighing 7.7lbs (up to 8.4lbs with a dual lamp display) with integrated webcam and fingerprint reader

2.   17” WXGA+ High-Definition* BrightView (1440 x 900) display featuring HP BrightView technology for bolder, more vibrant images, with the NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400 or 8600 Graphics and dedicated Video Memory

3.   dual-core processor for multitasking

4.   from 1GB up to 2GB DDR2 SDRAM Memory

5.   from 120/160GB to 2x120/2x160GB(5400rpm)/2x200GB(4200rpm) Hard Disk Drive

6.   SuperMulti DVD±R/RW with Double Layer Support and LightScribe technology - optional HD DVDROM

7.   Wireless LAN including Bluetooth (option), 10/100 LAN Ethernet integrated and High Speed 56K modem integrated

8.   HP mobile remote control, Memory reader 5-in-1, 3 USB 2.0 ports, 1 express card/54 (supports also express card/34), 1xIEEE 1394 FireWire® Interface, RJ-45 Ethernet jack, RJ-11 modem jack, 2 Headphone jacks including one withSPDIF Digital Audio, microphone in, HDMI interface, S-Video TV-Out, External VGA monitor port

9.   90w AC power adapter

10.   one-touch access to the movies, music and photos you want—without having to boot the entire system—using HP QuickPlay with Altec Lansing speakers integrated -includes two integrated microphones for video conferencing and VoIP

And the spec I've put together:

Intel® Core™ 2 Duo processor T7300  

Genuine Windows® Vista™ Home Premium Edition  

1 year standard + 1 year warranty extension (HP Care Pack service)  

17” WXGA+ High Definition Ultra BrightView Widescreen and NVIDIA® GeForce™ Go 8600/256 MB video   

HP Imprint™ finish with webcam and 2 integrated microphones and Fingerprint scanner  

2048MB Memory DDR2 667MHz (2x1024MB)  

320GB SATA 5,400rpm Hard Disk Drive (2x160GB)

Lightscribe Super Multi DVD Writer (+/-R +/-RW) with Double Layer support  

Intel® PRO/Wireless 3945AGN integrated wireless LAN with Bluetooth® wireless networking

8-cell Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion) battery

Total cost = £819.02 including delivery and 15% discount.

Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: mrapoc on Jul 23, 2007, 12:58:17
Thats sounds a good buy! DX 10 too  :P

You wont find a setup like that cheaper tbh

Check dell - they have good deals every now and  again
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Jul 23, 2007, 13:28:50
I would buy that spec, Lance. :)
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: Inactive on Jul 23, 2007, 13:31:03
Looks good to me Lance, I very much doubt that you will find better for the money.

Not that you Essex lot are short of a few bob. ;D
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Jul 23, 2007, 13:39:54
Quote from: Inactive on Jul 23, 2007, 13:31:03
Not that you Essex lot are short of a few bob. ;D

Though, if the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6910710.stm) is to be believed, they and we are spending it on fakes... ;)
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: john on Jul 23, 2007, 13:45:36
Usually Dell take some beating but you have to watch the prices for a month or so as they fluctuate/vary the deals quite often. After noting how low/high they get then you can make a decision of when is best to buy.

I bought a Dell laptop last October and the price difference between the highest and the lowest was over £400. I've been happy with the machine though.

Of course if cost was the main consideration then you could always buy one of these : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6679431.stm  ;)

(not quite up to your spec though)  ;D
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Jul 23, 2007, 13:48:40
Though I'm sure it would be marketed at £100 not $100 here!  :(
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: john on Jul 23, 2007, 13:53:01
QuoteThough I'm sure it would be marketed at £100 not $100 here!

Sadly your probably right Rik, and here was me expecting a discount on $100  ;D
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: Lance on Jul 23, 2007, 13:57:55
Thanks for the comment's guys! I didn't think you would be able to beat it!

The only problem with Dell is I've heard they have poor support (plus I don't think they would beat my spec/price!). I've used HP support before (albeit for a printer, not PC), and while it was an Indian call centre, the person I spoke to spoke clearly and fluently, and was very knowledgeable.
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Jul 23, 2007, 13:58:35
Mmm. Let's see, the exchange rate is at 2.03 or thereabouts. Using standard computing industry formulae, I come up with a market price of £106 plus VAT.  >:D
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Jul 23, 2007, 14:00:27
Quote from: Lance on Jul 23, 2007, 13:57:55
I've used HP support before (albeit for a printer, not PC)

HP's support has been first-rate over the years I've bought from them, Lance. I'll be round to borrow the machine as soon as it arrives.  ;) (Can't tempt you to go with XP can we???)
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: Inactive on Jul 23, 2007, 14:03:30
Quote from: Rik on Jul 23, 2007, 13:58:35
Mmm. Let's see, the exchange rate is at 2.03 or thereabouts. Using standard computing industry formulae, I come up with a market price of £106 plus VAT.  >:D

Rip Off UK. ;)
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: Lance on Jul 23, 2007, 14:05:06
XP isn't a listed option! To be honest, I'm not sure if I would take it, even if it was. I think I'm ready to make the jump (and probably drown!) to Vista, after using a couple of machines with it on.

I also think you got your formulae wrong Rik, I come out at £112 plus VAT!
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: Inactive on Jul 23, 2007, 14:07:34
Quote from: Rik on Jul 23, 2007, 13:39:54
Though, if the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6910710.stm) is to be believed, they and we are spending it on fakes... ;)

Now if the " Designer " brands. :puke: :puke: stopped ripping gullible people off, the fakes industry would cease over night.
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Jul 23, 2007, 14:10:38
Quote from: Lance on Jul 23, 2007, 14:05:06
I also think you got your formulae wrong Rik, I come out at £112 plus VAT!

I was using the Adobe version of the formula. :)

You realise you are volunteering for all the Vista support questions...  >:D
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: RobMc on Jul 23, 2007, 14:40:47
Quote from: Rik on Jul 23, 2007, 14:10:38
I was using the Adobe version of the formula. :)

You realise you are volunteering for all the Vista support questions...  >:D

I've tried to help people with vista issues and queries but whenever anybody mentions Vista here in these forums, we get so many people bashing it without any consideration of the issue, that it quickly became a thankless task.

Rob.
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: MoHux on Jul 23, 2007, 17:16:12
Quote from: Rik on Jul 23, 2007, 13:39:54
Though, if the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6910710.stm) is to be believed, they and we are spending it on fakes... ;)

"However, some trade bodies working to counter intellectual property crime have told the BBC ...................... "

Intellectual b*****ks!! :yeahright:  The classless society right?  ::)

If the idiots who buy the genuine rubbish want to sell their souls to the fat-cats just to be one-up on the next guy, let 'em!  The rest of us work too hard for our money!!  >:(

If what they say is true, then I for one am glad.  Perhaps the great British public has at last worked out who the real rip-off merchants are!

;)
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: Inactive on Jul 23, 2007, 17:22:54
Hear Hear to that Mo, I couldn't have put it better. ;)

The two words that get under my skin are " designer " and " celebrity "..  :puke:
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Jul 23, 2007, 17:26:43
Talking of celebrity, and way OT, I noticed that Digital Spy was referring to someone as having starred in a reality TV show.  >:( I just wonder what 'rank' will now have to be afforded to people like Streisand if appearing in a reality show makes you a star...
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: mrapoc on Jul 23, 2007, 17:40:08
TBH vista isnt that bad - I've moved over to it and had no hiccups (all my hardware and software is fairly new though so yeh)

It looks nice and so far runs a lot better than xp (in terms of error free not performance)

My laptop can cope well too with a bit of tweaking (1.6ghz turion dual core, 2gb ram)
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: MoHux on Jul 23, 2007, 18:30:35
Quote from: mrapoc on Jul 23, 2007, 17:40:08
TBH vista isnt that bad - I've moved over to it and had no hiccups (all my hardware and software is fairly new though so yeh)

It looks nice and so far runs a lot better than xp (in terms of error free not performance)

My laptop can cope well too with a bit of tweaking (1.6ghz turion dual core, 2gb ram)

No problems running it on my bog-standard Athlon 2600+, 2gb ram either Sam.  ;D 
The thing to remember, is to make sure when buying hardware, that it's Vista compatable.

;)
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: Lance on Jul 23, 2007, 21:43:34
Well, the laptop has been ordered! Due to arrive in 11/12 working days. 'll give a report when it comes!
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Jul 24, 2007, 09:37:58
It's Christmas come early.  ;D
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: Lance on Jul 24, 2007, 09:49:54
It certainly is Rik!
Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: Glenn on Jul 24, 2007, 09:53:28
Quote from: Lance on Jul 23, 2007, 13:57:55
Thanks for the comment's guys! I didn't think you would be able to beat it!

The only problem with Dell is I've heard they have poor support (plus I don't think they would beat my spec/price!). I've used HP support before (albeit for a printer, not PC), and while it was an Indian call centre, the person I spoke to spoke clearly and fluently, and was very knowledgeable.

Far from the truth, I call Dell Support once or twice a week in the course of my job, and they have been first class. They always call back when they say they will, if a field engineer is required, they call to let you know when the engineer is coming, and the engineer him/herself calls to confirm when they will be onsite. The first time fix rate is high.

This is from an HP site engineer.

Title: New Laptop required!
Post by: Lance on Jul 24, 2007, 10:21:01
Thanks for the info Glenn.

Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Lance on Aug 15, 2007, 12:44:47
Grrrr  >:( >:( :'(

Just been chasing HP and they have said because of component shortages my laptop won't be delivered until next Tuesday. So annoying!

What annoys me is the way the order status doesn't update to say it's been delayed, and the way the delay isn't communicated to customers  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Aug 15, 2007, 12:53:30
Customer service at its best, Lance. :( Still, it gives you longer to look forward to it.
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Lance on Aug 15, 2007, 12:54:55
It certainly does Rik!
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Inactive on Aug 15, 2007, 13:02:40
Sorry to hear that Lance, how frustrating, it makes you wonder if all computer makers share the same incompetent management team. ::)

Thanks for the update. ;)
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Aug 15, 2007, 13:24:55
Austin of HP? Surely not...  ;D
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Lance on Aug 17, 2007, 10:05:03
Had an email this morning saying my laptop has shipped (yesterday). Coming over from China, I can expect it Monday I would assume! Can't wait!
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Aug 17, 2007, 10:08:10
It depends on the speed of the boat, Lance. :)

Toes crossed for you, I hate waiting.
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Inactive on Aug 17, 2007, 10:44:35
Great news Lance, as long as it doesn't end up with Parcelfarce when it gets to the UK, it will take them longer than Air China. ;D
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Lance on Aug 20, 2007, 13:18:48
It's been delivered!!!!! Delivered 10 mins ago by TNT! I'll let you lot know what it's like when  I get my hands on it tonight!
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Aug 20, 2007, 13:22:30
I sense you have a headache starting, Lance, that might require you to knock off early???  ;D
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Lance on Aug 20, 2007, 13:26:51
Feels more like a migrane!

Unfortunately, I'm up to and over my eye's in it at work so don't think I can leave before 4 :( And even then, I need to go to the gym so won't actually get in til 6 :( :(
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Aug 20, 2007, 13:28:00
That's just so unfair. Tell you what, give me the address and I'll pop round to play...  >:D
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Lance on Aug 20, 2007, 13:51:40
Ok then, but don't forget to bring your main desktop machine!
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Aug 20, 2007, 13:52:54
I'll pack everything. :)
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Inactive on Aug 20, 2007, 14:04:10
Great news Lance, all comes to those that wait.

Keep us updated. ;)
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Lance on Aug 21, 2007, 08:44:31
It's great!!!

It looks stunningly beautiful, it is fast and so far it seems to be working really really well. I'm in love!

The only fault I can find so far is with HP not keeping their images up to date, leaving me with 32 updates to download and install!
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Aug 21, 2007, 08:59:31
Now that's a feeling I know. :( Manufacturers really should have a duty to supply the machine full patched. I'm glad you're in love.  ;)
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Inactive on Aug 21, 2007, 10:06:17
Indeed, pity the poor souls on Dial Up, having to download that lot.

Glad you are in " love " Lance, it's sounding good.

;)
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: J!ll on Aug 21, 2007, 12:57:43
He likes new laptops:

(http://www.pyzam.com//img/funnypics/animals/an12.jpg)
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Aug 21, 2007, 12:59:31
Wicked, Jill. I can feel Lance wincing from here.  ;)
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Lance on Aug 21, 2007, 13:09:20
Fortunately I don't have a dog!
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: J!ll on Aug 21, 2007, 13:44:34
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/11/17554898_dff2ef8074.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Aug 21, 2007, 13:51:48
C-ute. :)
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: MoHux on Aug 21, 2007, 13:52:39
Quote from: J!ll on Aug 21, 2007, 13:44:34
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/11/17554898_dff2ef8074.jpg?v=0)

It's gotta be female -- just look at them CLAWS!!  :out: :hide:
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Aug 21, 2007, 13:54:13
I'm glad you said that, Mo. I'm in enough trouble with Jill already...  ;D
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: MoHux on Aug 21, 2007, 13:58:13
 :hide: :banana2: :hide:
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: J!ll on Aug 21, 2007, 14:00:04
(http://www.pyzam.com//img/funnypics/animals/an1.jpg)
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Lance on Aug 21, 2007, 14:07:38
If the cat gets onto my laptop like that, then it's staying out throughout the whole of the coming winter!
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: J!ll on Aug 21, 2007, 14:09:09
Bring the laptop here, I will look after it, you keep the cat  ;D
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Lance on Aug 21, 2007, 14:11:58
I don't like the sound of that! How about the other way round!!!
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: J!ll on Aug 21, 2007, 14:22:18
Nope, I don't like cats, new laptop?  yes  ;D
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Inactive on Aug 21, 2007, 14:24:03
Quote from: J!ll on Aug 21, 2007, 14:22:18
Nope, I don't like cats, new laptop?  yes  ;D

You would only break it, I will have the cat. ;)
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: J!ll on Aug 21, 2007, 14:25:47
I would not! I like new toys  :D
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Inactive on Aug 21, 2007, 14:27:40
Quote from: J!ll on Aug 21, 2007, 14:25:47
I would not! I like new toys  :D

Erm...errr... New P.C.  ???   cough..  :hide:
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: J!ll on Aug 21, 2007, 14:30:28
Mine is not new anymore, not that impressed, thought I could try yours?  :D
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Aug 21, 2007, 14:34:06
Pop round and try mine, Jill - I'm within easy reach. :)
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: J!ll on Aug 21, 2007, 14:37:36
Yes you are! Inactive should learn to share  ;)
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Aug 21, 2007, 14:39:33
He may well do, Jill, but we might never know??  8)
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Inactive on Aug 21, 2007, 14:40:03
You can have the Laptop J!ll if I can have the pussy. ;D
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Rik on Aug 21, 2007, 14:41:28
(http://bestsmileys.com/lol/1.gif)

I'm glad you said that...  ;D
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: J!ll on Aug 21, 2007, 14:52:12
Quote from: Inactive on Aug 21, 2007, 14:40:03
You can have the Laptop J!ll if I can have the pussy. ;D

:jawdrop:   :whip:   ;D
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Lance on Aug 21, 2007, 15:13:00
How about I stick with both!
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: Inactive on Aug 21, 2007, 15:21:44
Quote from: Lance on Aug 21, 2007, 15:13:00
How about I stick with both!

You're just plain greedy..  ;)
Title: Re: New Laptop required!
Post by: J!ll on Aug 21, 2007, 16:05:34
 :iagree:   :popcorn: