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Title: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Gary on Mar 10, 2014, 17:22:12
 iOS 7.1 is now on the download stream for OTA updates. Downloading as we speak.
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Gary on Mar 10, 2014, 17:44:38
Animation and menu much faster now, Siri can have a female or male voice, the male voice now sounds a tad camp to me  :)x Well iPhone and iPad are now done.
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Simon on Mar 10, 2014, 18:05:46
Siri has got to be the most temperamental, unreliable, and infuriating application I've ever used on a phone.  It will only work on Wi-Fi, or under the strongest 3G signal on Earth, so is absolutely useless for what it could be most useful for, and that is hands free operation when driving.
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Gary on Mar 10, 2014, 18:08:47
Quote from: Simon on Mar 10, 2014, 18:05:46
Siri has got to be the most temperamental, unreliable, and infuriating application I've ever used on a phone.  It will only work on Wi-Fi, or under the strongest 3G signal on Earth, so is absolutely useless for what it could be most useful for, and that is hands free operation when driving.
I find siri useful, works well under 4G. Siri can now launch apps and the dictation is much better. Signal seems stronger on the phone too. You may need to free some space up, Simon, Its a 268MB update
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Simon on Mar 10, 2014, 18:19:24
Have you got 4G where you are then, Gary?  I thought you were struggling to get 3G not so long ago. 
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Simon on Mar 10, 2014, 18:20:12
Oh, and I'll just de-sync some music, before the upgrade, then put it back on again.  :)
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Gary on Mar 10, 2014, 18:29:47
Quote from: Simon on Mar 10, 2014, 18:19:24
Have you got 4G where you are then, Gary?  I thought you were struggling to get 3G not so long ago. 
4G is as far as Arundel and Barnham now so I used it yesterday, when we went to Brighton. I was surprised it was so close. Worked very well. Seems they are working along the south coast so hopefully it wont be long now till its around here.
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Gary on Mar 10, 2014, 18:30:59
Quote from: Simon on Mar 10, 2014, 18:20:12
Oh, and I'll just de-sync some music, before the upgrade, then put it back on again.  :)
The whole thing is much faster, which is good as the iPad 4 was sluggish compared with how it is now. Only took Apple 6 Months  ::)
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Den on Mar 10, 2014, 18:33:00
If it was Microsoft we would slate them  ;) ;D
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: zappaDPJ on Mar 10, 2014, 18:37:09
Quote from: Gary on Mar 10, 2014, 18:30:59
The whole thing is much faster, which is good as the iPad 4 was sluggish compared with how it is now. Only took Apple 6 Months  ::)

It'll be interesting to see what it does to my iPhone 4 because it's getting very slow to react these days. As usual I'll have wait until tomorrow because my phone is up-to-date apparently!
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Simon on Mar 10, 2014, 18:39:11
I never understand why it says that the upgrade is 186Mb, but it requires 1.9Gb of space to do it!
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Steve on Mar 10, 2014, 18:50:56
Quote from: Simon on Mar 10, 2014, 18:39:11
I never understand why it says that the upgrade is 186Mb, but it requires 1.9Gb of space to do it!

Because I think it builds a complete OS i.e. 7.1 on your phone and then replaces the previous version rather than add/replace individual files.
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Gary on Mar 10, 2014, 18:56:50
Noticed some lag in the settings menu on the ipad 4 but no issues on the 5s.
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Simon on Mar 10, 2014, 19:54:23
Not sure I like the lower menu bar background.  Would rather have a transparency option there. 
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Simon on Mar 10, 2014, 20:09:19
Just found the transparency option.  ;D

Not sure I like the bolder keyboard either!  :laugh:

One thing I have noticed is that switching from portrait to landscape view on websites is certainly not as smooth now.  It's almost jittery on my 4S. 
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Simon on Mar 10, 2014, 21:19:00
Not a happy bunny.  :mad:  I had 240Mb of space left before the upgrade, and now, putting back on exactly what I took off to make room, iTunes is saying I'm 328Mb over capacity.  WTF!  Is there any way to reduce 'Other', as that is running at 1.82Gb?
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: zappaDPJ on Mar 10, 2014, 22:19:13
I've just got mine done using a direct download. So far I'm happy. It's definitely reduced the lag on my iPhone 4 by quite some margin. I also like the UI tweaks.
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Steve on Mar 10, 2014, 22:19:58
I think the options with 'other ' are to restore from backup or failing that set up as new phone!


https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3418045?start=0&tstart=0
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Simon on Mar 10, 2014, 22:29:47
Blimey, some of theirs are worse then mine!  I don't think I really want to restore as new.  I've managed to create some space by using something I found called PhoneClean (http://www.imobie.com/phoneclean/), but still had to remove some more music.  I know I shouldn't expect anything less of Apple, but you'd think that the operating system might be stored on a separate partition, so that the whole of the allocated storage is usable.  I've lost nearly 2Gb, which isn't insignificant on a 16Gb device.
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Gary on Mar 10, 2014, 23:47:10
I think its purely metadata and corrupt files, also 1.5GB is about normal. 16GB phones taking into account the OS are really to small with the size of apps and music files.
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Simon on Mar 10, 2014, 23:54:30
I think the OS has grown though, since iOS7.x, which of course wasn't around when the 4S came out.  TBH, I think they should start at 32Gb with the next model (for the price of a current 16Gb), and go up to 128Gb.  Given that the iPod Classic was 160Gb, I see no reason not to.
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: zappaDPJ on Mar 10, 2014, 23:56:23
Quote from: Simon on Mar 10, 2014, 22:29:47
Blimey, some of theirs are worse then mine!  I don't think I really want to restore as new.  I've managed to create some space by using something I found called PhoneClean (http://www.imobie.com/phoneclean/), but still had to remove some more music.  I know I shouldn't expect anything less of Apple, but you'd think that the operating system might be stored on a separate partition, so that the whole of the allocated storage is usable.  I've lost nearly 2Gb, which isn't insignificant on a 16Gb device.

I did manually clean up my phone a little before applying the update but I seem to have gained a gigabyte. If you've lost two gigs I'm starting to wonder what I've done ???
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: zappaDPJ on Mar 11, 2014, 00:05:45
How big is your 'other' file Simon? Mine is 1.09GB.
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Simon on Mar 11, 2014, 07:18:44
Mine is 1.90Gb.
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Gary on Mar 11, 2014, 07:54:14
Things like siri's voice are downloaded in the background which takes up more room, normally after an iOS update my 'other' goes down a bit but I'm up to 1.25GB, map data also seems to get stored I think.
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Steve on Mar 11, 2014, 09:15:48
Must be stupid I can't find other on my iPad.
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Gary on Mar 11, 2014, 09:20:38
Quote from: Steve on Mar 11, 2014, 09:15:48
Must be stupid I can't find other on my iPad.
Only shows up in iTunes, Steve.
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Gary on Mar 11, 2014, 09:21:34
On a side note just had my first black screen of death on the 5s  :rant2: at some point I may restore the whole phone, or wait for 7.1.1  ;) up to 1.49GB now of 'other'
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Simon on Mar 11, 2014, 11:42:51
I thought the crashes were one of the main things 7.1 was supposed to fix!  That app I mentioned above did clear a lot of crud from the phone, such as app caches and such like.  Also, sometimes when you disconnect and reconnect to iTunes, the capacities change a bit.  I didn't do that last night, but theoretically, quite a bit should have been cleared from Other. 

Would downloading and installing updates via iTunes, rather then OTA make any difference, or would the installation files still be stored on the device?
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: zappaDPJ on Mar 11, 2014, 13:10:35
Quote from: Simon on Mar 11, 2014, 11:42:51
Would downloading and installing updates via iTunes, rather then OTA make any difference, or would the installation files still be stored on the device?

I really don't know, I'm still trying to work out how I managed to gain enough space to store two more CD's worth of music on my phone. Perhaps a previous upgrade left some spurious data lying around :dunno: The home button certainly reacts faster now, I was starting to think mine was on its way out but it was clearly down to lag.
Title: Re: iOS 7.1 released
Post by: Steve on Mar 11, 2014, 13:11:37
Thanks Gary! That's why I can't find it, my iPad keeps away from iTunes although I'm going to have to pay a visit to restore WiFi sync.