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Title: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: zappaDPJ on Dec 24, 2013, 16:43:34
QuoteA virulent form of ransomware has now infected about quarter of a million Windows computers, according to a report by security researchers.

Cryptolocker scrambles users' data and then demands a fee to unencrypt it alongside a countdown clock.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25506020

I don't think it's being too alarmist to state that this is probably the worst threat to your computer data that there's ever been. My local PC repair shop has started to see a few PCs/laptops infected with this and once you've got it your data is gone. The full article contains some good advice and external links which might help protect your data including...

Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: colirv on Dec 24, 2013, 17:30:01
I've installed CryptoPrevent (http://www.foolishit.com/vb6-projects/cryptoprevent/).
Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: Simon on Dec 24, 2013, 19:53:32
I thought Windows 7 and later already blocked executables.  Isn't that what UAC is all about?
Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: pctech on Dec 24, 2013, 19:59:35
It supposedly challenges anything that would require admin level access but I don't think encrypting files comes under admin level access anymore.
Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: Clive on Dec 24, 2013, 20:44:34
Thanks Colirv, I've successfully installed it on my netbook and will now install it on both laptops.   :thumb:
Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: zappaDPJ on Dec 24, 2013, 20:57:54
Quote from: Simon on Dec 24, 2013, 19:53:32
I thought Windows 7 and later already blocked executables.  Isn't that what UAC is all about?

That would depend on your settings, whether or not you run as an administrator and of course whether you choose to take notice of any warnings that occur. The general answer to your question however is that UAC did not stop it for the quarter of a million users already infected and the majority of those were likely to be running it.

This is probably the best resource on the web if you want to learn more: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/cryptolocker-ransomware-information
Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: Simon on Dec 24, 2013, 21:20:29
I have F-Secure and MalwareBytes Pro, so hopefully, with a little common sense and safe surfing practices, I should be OK.   :fingers:
Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: Steve on Dec 24, 2013, 21:52:48
Quote from: Simon on Dec 24, 2013, 21:20:29
I have F-Secure and MalwareBytes Pro, so hopefully, with a little common sense and safe surfing practices, I should be OK.   :fingers:

Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: Simon on Dec 24, 2013, 21:54:30
:pmsl:
Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: zappaDPJ on Dec 24, 2013, 22:53:10
 :lol:
Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: Baz on Dec 25, 2013, 07:48:20
Quote from: zappaDPJ on Dec 24, 2013, 16:43:34


  • Install software that blocks executable fields and compressed archives before they reach email inboxes


What software is recommended to do this. Is the one linked by Colirv any good
Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: Gary on Dec 25, 2013, 08:34:16
Quote from: Simon on Dec 24, 2013, 21:20:29
I have F-Secure and MalwareBytes Pro, so hopefully, with a little common sense and safe surfing practices, I should be OK.   :fingers:
I dont think there is such a thing as safe surfing anymore, one dns redirect and you have been got, not a lot you can do when that happens...
Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: zappaDPJ on Dec 25, 2013, 12:53:16
Quote from: Baz on Dec 25, 2013, 07:48:20

What software is recommended to do this. Is the one linked by Colirv any good

It's something to look for in your email client Baz.Outlook for example does it by default.
Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: JD_LincsUK on Dec 25, 2013, 20:23:22
I was just reading this at the Beeb a few minutes ago.

I find it beggars belief that people are still clicking links in e-mails (especially unexpected ones), which, according to the story, is how this malware is triggered.

It's very hard to be sympathetic in that kind of scenario.
Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: Gary on Dec 29, 2013, 10:20:30
Quote from: JD_LincsUK on Dec 25, 2013, 20:23:22

It's very hard to be sympathetic in that kind of scenario.
There are people out there with very little computer knowledge who don't realise the net is a scam ridden malware laced hell hole if you are not careful. My mother is one that may click a link, she is older and cannot always tell the difference between spam emails and real ones, I have met younger people too, they are not stupid, they just don't realise the threats or don't scour tec sites reading up on all this. They just want to go online and enjoy the web. As many people have said maybe there should be a basic computer literacy and security leaflet given with every new pc/tablet to help people understand the threats.
Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: Technical Ben on Dec 29, 2013, 11:33:29
Sadly though, those same people often fall for some knocking at the door.
It's those who check ID at the door, check written mail/phone calls who don't fall for the email/net scams (but often don't click anything, but it's a better stance non the less).
Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: zappaDPJ on Dec 29, 2013, 14:29:37
It really depends how much effort you want to put into it. Does everyone for example check on the previous price of that never to be repeated half price offer that was at one time being sold cheaper than the offer price? Are you aware that many customer service help line calls are charged at a premium rate? The problem is there's always a new scam and while common sense will protect you the majority of the time it's not always foolproof e.g. I never use our land line but I recently had to spend hours on the phone to Sky. I even put the phone down before the hour was up not realising that call was costing me dear from the second I got through ::)
Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: pctech on Dec 29, 2013, 16:08:44
Yep, not clicking on links in e-mails is a far better idea.

Having an ex directory number also reduces the likelihood of calls from 'the bank' and even when I do get calls I will tell them I will call them back on a number that I know is legitimate to discuss any matters (its usually marketing anyway)

Alas it doesn't seem to stop the PPI claim companies but you can't win 'em all I guess.

Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: Glenn on Dec 29, 2013, 16:22:21
Tell your council to keep your voting details off the register helps too.
Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: pctech on Dec 29, 2013, 16:25:36
Yep we do that too.

Also had an entry phone installed so we don't actually have to open the front door which thwarts any attempts to barge in.

Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: Technical Ben on Dec 31, 2013, 10:46:21
Quote from: zappaDPJ on Dec 29, 2013, 14:29:37
It really depends how much effort you want to put into it. Does everyone for example check on the previous price of that never to be repeated half price offer that was at one time being sold cheaper than the offer price? Are you aware that many customer service help line calls are charged at a premium rate? The problem is there's always a new scam and while common sense will protect you the majority of the time it's not always foolproof e.g. I never use our land line but I recently had to spend hours on the phone to Sky. I even put the phone down before the hour was up not realising that call was costing me dear from the second I got through ::)
Yes (I do).
Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: JD_LincsUK on Dec 31, 2013, 11:30:23
Quote from: Gary on Dec 29, 2013, 10:20:30
There are people out there with very little computer knowledge who don't realise the net is a scam ridden malware laced hell hole if you are not careful. My mother is one that may click a link, she is older and cannot always tell the difference between spam emails and real ones, I have met younger people too, they are not stupid, they just don't realise the threats or don't scour tec sites reading up on all this. They just want to go online and enjoy the web. As many people have said maybe there should be a basic computer literacy and security leaflet given with every new pc/tablet to help people understand the threats.

Gary, the not clicking on attachment advice has been repeated ad infinitum on every TV and Radio station news and similar progs over the last 10 years - usually when something like this story crops up (yet again).

But then, just like some do things they know they shouldn't and complain of the consequences, others will argue, regardless.  :swoon:
Title: Re: Cryptolocker ransomware has 'infected about 250,000 PCs'
Post by: Technical Ben on Dec 31, 2013, 15:53:13
I find it's opinion that is hardest to overcome. Such as those who insist they know a software is "speeding up the computer because the add said it would" or the smiley software "is safe because they want smileys". Any evidence to the contrary is met with "but the add said" or "but I want it". Well, how to you counter that?