I just thought I'd run a couple of speed tests and I'm getting some dodgy results especially from multi-threading:
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/138246430722222068905.png)
Ignore the initial peak that's pre-existing from Kaspersky AV.
No problems here. In fact I've just recorded my best ever result for this line.
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/3050146026.png) (http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3050146026)
A local issue perhaps?
Ping of 6ms! Dear me ;D
That's actually quite unusual, it's normally 7ms ;D
It's people watching the Apple event and then downloading subsequent operating system updates ;)
Trying to download ;D 200mb to go
I usually find the multi-threading test on my line gives between a quarter and a half the speed of the "normal" TBB test. No idea why. I've decided speedtests are for entertainment purposes only 8-).
Mine's been awful tonight. Packet loss since about 8pm-ish, and this page just took roughly four minutes to load! Pings and traceroutes seem fine, but my TBBQM looks like this:
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share-thumb/5631a902237a275c30ecc2626bfab70e-22-10-2013.png)
I might call Support tomorrow, since my minimum latency dropped to 20ms two days ago after I'd unplugged the router for the duration of a thunderstorm, and I've had intermittent packet loss since then. Before that, my minimum latency was about 30ms and not a single blip of packet loss for weeks. As soon as that latency drops = packet loss. I'm thinking this could be interleaving going on and off? The last time this happened (again, after unplugging during a thunderstorm) I had to endure 10 days of packet loss before everything went kaput for 5 minutes (100% loss). When it came back up, average latency was 30ms again (interleaving switched back on?)
If it is interleaving, then I'm not sure if it's possible to get that set permanently at the exchange, or not. All I know is that, when my minimum latency is 30ms, I have no packet loss issues whatsoever!
Editing to add a speed test, just carried out. My connection is supposed to be 8Mbps:
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/138248153805850523093-mini.png)
*muttergrumbles as she heads for bed*
I'm getting a similar sort of packet loss tonight (on London Stepney Green PoP), but with no other symptoms (yet).
Same packet loss here (Cornwall). My graph is almost identical to Reya's.
From what I can see everyone on an IDNet connection (ADSL and FTTC) had the same.
Have to say, I didn't notice any issues, but admittedly, wasn't doing much online last night.
I noticed the packet loss but didn't really use my connection much.
Like I notice there's packet loss again today (TBB graph in my sig)
Last night was no doubt Mavericks' fault, but no obvious reason for today's... unless everyone is streaming a christening :dunno:
LONAP traffic (http://www.lonap.net/mrtg/lonap-total.html)
Still lousy here
Sorry, can't get TBB quality graph to show up here, here's a Traceroute instead.
1. 192.168.1.254 0.0% 13 0.5 0.5 0.4 0.6 0.1
2. telehouse-gw4-lo1.idnet.net 0.0% 13 251.0 290.3 118.7 419.2 87.3
3. 212.69.63.184 0.0% 13 243.9 283.9 205.6 396.7 65.0
4. redbus-gw5-gi2-1276.idnet.net 0.0% 13 241.8 275.4 172.9 428.2 87.7
5. redbus-gw1-gi5-0-301.idnet.net 0.0% 12 252.8 266.2 84.8 415.3 108.3
6. www.idnet.net 0.0% 12 244.7 264.1 21.8 418.7 113.0
Ah so it's not just me. Was noticing awful problems with YouTube 720p streaming so did a speed test and getting between 2mb and 5mb whereas it should be blasting up over 12mb.
Just checked the ping monitor:
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share-large/e3ecd9e19f94e31470831acfdbbb1623-23-10-2013.png)
Nasty. I was lucky last night that I only started online gaming past 11pm. Hope this get's fixed soon or tonight's session will be off.
Mine is MUCH prettier.
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share-large/741c2868ef6d0f07601ae6ce28719fc4-23-10-2013.png)
I've only just got online, but even without my computer being switched on I've had packet loss all morning until now (and likely to continue *sigh*) -
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share-thumb/7b721b0cc187479ae9014987bdfdc17d-23-10-2013.png)
Adrian's graph wins the internet, though. That is, if he can get the internet to work ;D
I seem to have lost 40Mbps on my download but upload is ok :rant2: not what I needed.
Hi,
We have done some investigation across our network and cannot see anything causing the issue. We suspect this may be some busy peering links due to the latest Apple software updates so should ease over the next day or so.
Kind regards,
Brian
IDNet
It is working after a fashion, but it's probably more exciting watching the grass grow.
:laugh:
Bloody Apple.
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/138254363719058335172.png)
FTTC, Typical speeds before today are 65Mb Down, 18Mb up.
Support are blaming saturated peer's due to the Apple Maverick Update/Event Livecasting and expect the issue to be resolved by tomorrow :fingers:.
Quote from: JamesAllen on Oct 23, 2013, 15:58:22
Bloody Apple.
Indeed :shake:
Quote from: JamesAllen on Oct 23, 2013, 15:58:22
Bloody Apple.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI) :laugh:
I've been seeing packet loss since last night also - but what stuck out to me was it was between my router and the first IDnet hop, almost as if the BT backhaul is having issues. There doesn't seem to be any problems on my line itself, the router is hardwired and hasn't been touched (aside from rebooted) after 2 years of solid service.
I'm on FTTC. Reported this to IDNet last night - said they would get back to me but haven't. The patterns your graphs show are exactly the same as the patterns I'm seeing. I've never seen this happen before.
Can I ask any of you who also are experiencing this issue to download WinMTR (http://winmtr.net/download-winmtr/ (http://winmtr.net/download-winmtr/)) and run a test that lasts at least 100 packets to www.idnet.net - the problem seems really intermittent, like it fades in and out every minute or so - 100 packets will give you an idea of where the packet loss is occurring. This is my result:
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| FTTC-IDNET - 0 | 100 | 100 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 2 |
| telehouse-gw2-lo1.idnet.net - 3 | 93 | 91 | 13 | 20 | 95 | 15 |
| 212.69.63.247 - 4 | 89 | 86 | 13 | 17 | 103 | 14 |
| redbus-gw2-gi3-331.idnet.net - 2 | 97 | 96 | 13 | 14 | 16 | 14 |
| redbus-gw1-gi5-0-301.idnet.net - 5 | 85 | 81 | 13 | 14 | 16 | 16 |
| www.idnet.net - 4 | 89 | 86 | 13 | 14 | 16 | 15 |
I run a streaming service and administer many servers around the world so this is hurting a little for me.
For what it's worth I've got a second FTTC connection (to BT) served on the same incoming cable and cabinet which is absolutely fine.
Pat
I've just got on-line and I'm getting intermittent time-outs on websites and some substantial packet loss. There's clearly a throughput issue as I can't get content rich sites to complete at all.
Similar probs here (01326 in Cornwall). Speed dropped from just under 75 to 2 an hour or so back. Have reported it to Nick at IDNet and hope they're able to spot the prob. soon.
Update: at 1620 speed now jumped up to nearly 4 ...... Whooppeeee!!!!!
My friend on BT is having no issues but it depends I guess on what peering points they use. :dunno: lost so much speed it's ludicrous. Around 50Mbps down has gone walkabouts. leaving me with 11Mbps ish
My normal connection is 62 down and 17 up..
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/3052207638.png) (http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3052207638)
Rather than just blaming peering points, download WinMTR (http://winmtr.net/download-winmtr/ (http://winmtr.net/download-winmtr/)) - if on windows -and see for yourself where the problem is. I'm all for finding out it's my line which is specifically the issue, but at the moment there seems to be an issue with IDNet traffic reaching Telehouse. We can only tell if all of us run a decent test - preferably to an IDNet server like www.idnet.net so we can eliminate the wider Internet.
Just to clarify - the levels of packet loss over a couple of minutes are relatively low - 3-5% but it can affect speed tests and rendering of sites etc. I'm seeing it manifest itself in problematic streaming which is a big pain for when I'm used to having a rock solid connection.
Here you go patc57
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| home.gateway - 0 | 169 | 169 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 |
| telehouse-gw4-lo1.idnet.net - 5 | 142 | 135 | 14 | 34 | 182 | 14 |
| 212.69.63.247 - 6 | 138 | 130 | 13 | 14 | 66 | 14 |
| redbus-gw2-gi3-331.idnet.net - 5 | 146 | 139 | 13 | 14 | 17 | 14 |
| redbus-gw1-gi5-0-301.idnet.net - 6 | 138 | 130 | 14 | 14 | 18 | 14 |
| www.idnet.net - 5 | 149 | 143 | 13 | 14 | 17 | 15 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider
@psp83 - Thank you, that absolutely verifies what I'm seeing.
Quote from: Reya on Oct 23, 2013, 16:04:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI) :laugh:
Heh, quality ;)
The WinMTR test, run for a few minutes.
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 192.168.0.3 - 0 | 141 | 141 | 0 | 0 | 12 | 0 |
| telehouse-gw4-lo1.idnet.net - 4 | 125 | 121 | 33 | 41 | 121 | 35 |
| 212.69.63.247 - 5 | 117 | 112 | 0 | 42 | 84 | 33 |
| redbus-gw2-gi3-331.idnet.net - 3 | 129 | 126 | 0 | 42 | 78 | 42 |
| redbus-gw1-gi5-0-301.idnet.net - 7 | 113 | 106 | 0 | 40 | 79 | 47 |
| www.idnet.net - 5 | 121 | 116 | 0 | 41 | 80 | 33 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 192.168.1.1 - 0 | 205 | 205 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
| telehouse-gw4-lo1.idnet.net - 28 | 98 | 71 | 8 | 12 | 185 | 9 |
| 212.69.63.184 - 30 | 94 | 66 | 8 | 10 | 91 | 8 |
| redbus-gw5-gi2-1276.idnet.net - 28 | 98 | 71 | 8 | 8 | 10 | 8 |
| redbus-gw1-gi5-0-301.idnet.net - 28 | 98 | 71 | 8 | 8 | 9 | 9 |
| www.idnet.net - 33 | 90 | 61 | 8 | 8 | 10 | 8 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider
Thanks folks for running those tests. Sooooooo - IDNet? Any ideas? Seems we're all having trouble reaching YOU let alone the rest of the interwebs!
I dropped them an email as well with a redirection here.
Yah, lot of packet loss atm and speed tests results are poor. Ignore the spike at 6:30am - that's my timer power cycling my router.
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share-thumb/466d151c734be8892ee1cc03a8049662-23-10-2013.png)
Worse than last night.
Yep have the same issue. Perhaps interestingly IDNet traffic has the delay reaching Telehouse running WinMTR to IDNet, but my second (non-IDNet) connection (which also uses BT Wholesale to reach the backhaul) doesn't.
@mervl - I have the same set up (BT FTTC backup connection) and that is running smooth this whole time also. I'm glad this forum exists because I don't think the guy on the phone last night quite believed what I was trying to tell him.
Just like to add that I'm having major throughput issues today as well. 01656 area code. On 80Mb FTTC and connected as normal around 76Mb. However, throughput is struggling to hit 20Mb and is often a lot lower, and seems to be wavering a lot. Normally it's pretty much at line speed.
You tube vids seem a bit jittery today too, so traffic not too smooth I assume?
Tried rebooting my router - even tried the standard BT FTTC box as well, and a laptop to rule our anything specific to my pc - just in case. :) Still the same.
If it's any help :-
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 192.168.1.1 - 0 | 225 | 225 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 |
| telehouse-gw4-lo1.idnet.net - 1 | 218 | 216 | 12 | 13 | 28 | 14 |
| 212.69.63.247 - 2 | 210 | 206 | 11 | 13 | 132 | 12 |
| redbus-gw2-gi3-331.idnet.net - 1 | 218 | 216 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 |
| redbus-gw1-gi5-0-301.idnet.net - 3 | 202 | 196 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 |
| www.idnet.net - 5 | 196 | 188 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider
Having received a reply from support, there's little I can add to what Brian said earlier in this thread, it is due to heavy peering traffic, they are monitoring it,it should resolve towards off peak times. Looks like Apple again.
Steve - Peering at what point? Before Telehouse? Cos that's what we're all seeing.
It just weird that IDnet seems to be the only ISP having the problem.
A few friends on different ISPs in the same town are not having problems.
I am doubting its Apple, its been 8 hours like this now :mad: friends on other networks are having no issues, I think something else is wrong, none of the other ISP's I have checked are reporting any issues like this. My download speed is 19Mbps my upload is 15Mbps it was 67Mbps and 17Mbps, to be honest I'm a bit peeved to say the least.
And suddenly its back to normal for me :dunno:
Quote from: Gary on Oct 23, 2013, 19:21:15
And suddenly its back to normal for me :dunno:
Interesting, mine has returned to normal too. Maybe all my fellow Mac users have now finished downloading Mavericks.
My two downloads of Mavericks have just finished, sorry if I hogged the bandwidth :evil:
Mines dropped to 70 from 40 :rant2: :bawl:
Yah, getting worse here. TBB is badly affected, I'm barely getting over 5Mb/s. Speedtest.net is down to 20Mb/s. Both highly variable. I've noticed this on other occasions - the link to TBB often suffers more.
Other ISP users around my area seem unaffected. Is it reasonable to conclude that all would be Apple Site perusers are availing themselves of IDNets bandwidth/servers etc etc.?
FWIW my speed is now sub 4.
Would it also be reasonable at this juncture for IDNet to consider any other scenarios to explain this diabolical situation?
I'm reminded of this post
http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,31394.msg718609.html#msg718609
It does seem disappointing that the peering links are being blamed for our current poor throughput,I'll take your word that other ISPs are not suffering, certainly it's after LINX peak time and my throughput is still poor.
Yeah looks like it got better about 19:45 but then from 20:00 has been bad again. This is really annoying. Hoping I can online game later but if the packet loss continues it won't be worth it.
Considering no other ISP's are mentioning this...and the fact my mother on BT infinity is getting a happy 38Mbps down at this very moment it feels like an issue with IDNets peering points, and very ironic after that post Steve mentioned. :whistle:
Quote from: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 20:59:28I'll take your word that other ISPs are not suffering, certainly it's after LINX peak time and my throughput is still poor.
No need to take it on trust. Look here:
http://craigswebsites.co.uk/ping/
Looks to be fairly unique to IDNet although there's one Supanet monitor showing packet loss of around the same duration.
Quote from: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 20:59:28
I'm reminded of this post
http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,31394.msg718609.html#msg718609
It does seem disappointing that the peering links are being blamed for our current poor throughput,I'll take your word that other ISPs are not suffering, certainly it's after LINX peak time and my throughput is still poor.
It would appear that post was designed to be misinterpreted.
My understanding (supported by information from here (http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=12496)) is that they have a handful of uplinks (In this case the main uplinks appear to be 1xLINX Gigabit link and 2xLONAP Gigabit links [with both IPv4 and IPv6 respectively]) that give IDNet their upstream connection to the 'rest of the internet' (aka the 600 other peers that also connect to LINX/LONAP; and via LINX/LONAP to connect to Telia/Level3 etc.)
A bit like boasting that my phone can connect with over 6 billion (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19925506) different mobile phone numbers, when that applies to anyone with a mobile phone. (And incidentally, I can't as soon as my mobile phone loses coverage).
To be honest Gary I wouldn't be bothered at all, we get the odd blip and that's life,it just coincides with my desire to download what seems the entire contents of Apple's server. :evil:
@syserr0r I wonder how throughput is currently on IPv6
Quote from: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 21:40:41To be honest Gary I wouldn't be bothered at all, we get the odd blip and that's life
Yeah, I don't currently see it as a problem because I'm sure it will soon clear. My main concern last night was if it was something local to me.
Quote from: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 21:40:41
To be honest Gary I wouldn't be bothered at all, we get the odd blip and that's life,it just coincides with my desire to download what seems the entire contents of Apple's server. :evil:
@syserr0r I wonder how throughput is currently on IPv6
Be bothered with what, Steve? ??? Twelve hours of sub par speeds is not a blip...
It certainly isn't. Well packet loss is still awful so looks like online gaming is a no no tonight. Really annoying as this is one week I get off from planning my radio show. Sods law...
Quote from: Gary on Oct 23, 2013, 21:46:28
Be bothered with what, Steve? ??? Twelve hours of sub par speeds is not a blip...
I'm speaking for myself, life goes on, in the whole scheme of things it's not that important to me. If it becomes a regular event then it would impinge on me.
Quote from: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 21:40:41
@syserr0r I wonder how throughput is currently on IPv6
Likely wouldn't be any different. I would
guess that both IPv4 and IPv6 traffic is routed over the 3 main (Gigabit) peers (although they could be separate
1), so congestion would affect both.
It has really surprised me to find they rely on 3Gbit/sec (and 350Mbit/sec if you're being picky) for their uplinks.
I didn't imagine them to be a big company, but some rudimentary sums give, assuming:
Download- IDNet Avaiable bandwidth: 3,350 Mbit/sec
- Typical FTTC Bandwidth*: 40Mbit/sec
- Typical ADSL Bandwidth*: 10Mbit/sec
*Assuming 50% of Max. theoretical throughput is the averageWould allow for:
- 3,350 / 40 = 83 FTTC Users at maximum download
- 3,350 / 10 = 335 ADSL Users at maximum download
- 3,350 / 50 = 134 Equal-split of FTTC/ADSL Users at maximum download
At any given time
Upload- IDNet Avaiable bandwidth**: 3,350 Mbit/sec
- Typical FTTC Bandwidth**: 10Mbit/sec
- Typical ADSL Bandwidth**: 0.75Mbit/sec
*Assuming Full-Duplex uplinks (the almost certainly would be)
**Assuming 50% of Max. theoretical throughput is the averageWould allow for:
- 3,350 / 10 = 335 FTTC Users at maximum upload
- 3,350 / 0.75 = 4,466 ADSL Users at maximum upload
- 3,350 / 10.75 = 622 Equal-split of FTTC/ADSL Users at maximum upload
At any given time
The scary thing is it wouldn't take more than (3,350/72 [80Mbit minus 10% overhead] = ) 47 FTTC users with maximum line speed to completely saturate their uplinks.
Ah, the joys of playing the over-provisioning game!
1Double the number of users if the IPv4 and IPv6 uplinks are separate (so 94 max-speed FTTC users to saturate all their uplinks, or 47 max-speed FTTC users to saturate only ipv4 or only ipv6)
For anyone interested, take a look at TalkTalk's uplinks (http://www.peeringdb.com/private/participant_view.php?id=721)
I guess if your assumptions are correct it's quite feasible to see how congestion will occur.
Well I'm back to full speed again,hope it lasts ;)
Its getting better but speeds are still all over the place.
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/138256830733756297803.png) (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=138256830733756297803)
I seem to have an improvement now - speedtest.net just about back to normal. thinkbroadband tester giving odd results again though :-
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/138256949400546697859.png)
I'm confused about the TBB test. If IDNet don't do any form of packet shaping or traffic prioritisation, how come there's such a difference? Surely it should be the same for both, or both equally effected by network traffic....although I guess it depends on where the target servers are that the tests are using too... ???
I had an issue on my pc before where the TBB test was low but http full speed. Was fine on a laptop using same cable/router though. Ended up rebuilding my pc as it seemed to be some wierd networking issue. Anyhow, this time it's not machine specific. :dunno:
Certainly my packet loss seemed to resolve at around 11pm some 14 hours after it started.
LONAP traffic for the last 48 hours- comparing the shapes of yesterday's curve with the day before (and ignoring the Mavericks spike) it looks as though from around 10:30 to 15:00, from 16:00 to 18:00 and (maybe) 19:30 onwards a fairly hefty chunk of traffic was routed somewhere else, then it returned to normal (ie matched the previous days pattern) at around 22:00. Which (broadly) fits with my BQMs.
I'm reluctant to believe that those drops are due to straightforward lack of internet usage... whether it was routine maintenance, equipment failure or something else completely, and whether IDNet traffic was moved or stayed on the old path, I have no idea but it seems likely to me that there's a connection somewhere.
Anyone more knowledgeable think that seems reasonable?
(http://cust120-dsl53.idnet.net/~billford/images/Lonap.png)
Interesting Bill, I was in the middle of downloading when I lost throughput at 10:30am ish ::) I have called a few gaming friends and none seem to have seen the packet loss we experienced. :eyebrow:
It appears that we have a large number of Apple fans who like to update the software on their devices promptly. As none of our LLU customers experienced any problems it seems that we'll need to get some more bandwidth out of BT. Apologies for the inconvenience.
Bill, I see that Akamai (who host content for Apple and BBC etc) moved their traffic away from LONAP and over to LINX and other peering points a few times over the past few days.
I wasn't completely wide of the mark then, thanks Simon :)
From my BQMs it looks like they're doing it again, but a bit early to be sure yet.
Apple maybe should learn to release updates in a staggered manner rather than everything all at once ;D
Or users develop some patience instead of wanting it NOW :P
Quote from: Bill on Oct 24, 2013, 10:22:46
Or users develop some patience instead of wanting it NOW :P
I think Apple releasing updates on certain days once a month is probably a more realistic approach
Quote from: Bill on Oct 24, 2013, 10:22:46
Or users develop some patience instead of wanting it NOW :P
Never going to happen. ;D
Even my 64 year old Dad proudly posted a picture of his newly updated laptop on Facebook yesterday. He was even worse with iOS 7 - constantly checking the update service.. Sigh..
Yesterday evening I updated two Macs to Mavericks and then the relevant App updates, iPad iOS and Apps updated and iPhone*2 iOS and Apps updated, the total download for the day was nearly 25GB. I sometimes only use that in a month!
So yes certainly for me the last few days has seen me hammer my idnet connection.
Mine has slowed down to 40Mbps yet again :mad:
Yeah this is still occurring for me. A nice long test for you over the last 30 minutes or so showing 2-3% packet loss at the first hurdle:
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| FTTC-IDNET - 0 | 1263 | 1263 | 1 | 2 | 7 | 3 |
| telehouse-gw2-lo1.idnet.net - 2 | 1177 | 1155 | 13 | 19 | 181 | 17 |
| 212.69.63.247 - 3 | 1161 | 1135 | 13 | 14 | 62 | 14 |
| redbus-gw2-gi3-331.idnet.net - 3 | 1137 | 1105 | 13 | 14 | 17 | 15 |
| redbus-gw1-gi5-0-301.idnet.net - 3 | 1149 | 1120 | 13 | 14 | 207 | 16 |
| www.idnet.net - 3 | 1157 | 1130 | 13 | 14 | 20 | 15 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
It definitely improved overnight. Seems something's wrong with the bits we can't see, before it gets to Telehouse, as shown earlier.
Quote from: patc57 on Oct 24, 2013, 15:53:18
Yeah this is still occurring for me. A nice long test for you over the last 30 minutes or so showing 2-3% packet loss at the first hurdle:
It definitely improved overnight. Seems something's wrong with the bits we can't see, before it gets to Telehouse, as shown earlier.
Two days of this is now getting to be annoying. I know ist just the interwebs but the yoyo line is not great for gaming at all. Can it still be people downloading Apple stuff? :( After 10pm last night and this morning I was back up to 69Mbps now its bouncing around from minute to minute
As an old Mac hand I never update to the latest version of OSX straightaway, but generally wait until the second or third iteration. In the meantime the apps catch up and the worst of the bugs get shaken out. Mind you I did stream the live event via Apple TV.
Pages seems to be this years attempt at another Maps fiasco as they appear to be turning a perfectly decent word processor and layout programme into a pos.
A flavour of the comments can be seen here: http://bit.ly/1agUYo8 (http://bit.ly/1agUYo8)
Personally I use Nisus Writer Pro and Word when I'm forced to, but Pages was very good at doing layouts.
Quote from: Tacitus on Oct 24, 2013, 16:02:51
As an old Mac hand I never update to the latest version of OSX straightaway, but generally wait until the second or third iteration. In the meantime the apps catch up and the worst of the bugs get shaken out.
Pages seems to be this years attempt at another Maps fiasco as they appear to be turning a perfectly decent word processor and layout programme into a pos.
A flavour of the comments can be seen here: http://bit.ly/1agUYo8 (http://bit.ly/1agUYo8)
Personally I use Nisus Writer Pro and Word when I'm forced to, but Pages was very good at doing layouts.
Last Year ML was ok Mavericks is definitely not. tbh I don't mind who uses it and who doesn't, I just want my internet speed to remain constant. :)
So with the congestion on the way to IDNet does that infer that the issue here is IDNet customers downloading the update, rather than the rest of the country?
Quote from: JamesAllen on Oct 24, 2013, 17:20:23
So with the congestion on the way to IDNet does that infer that the issue here is IDNet customers downloading the update, rather than the rest of the country?
I would imagine isp's like AAISP have Apple users too and no mention of issues there. Apple release a OS X update once a year and last year there was no issues from what I remember. :-\
Quote from: Gary on Oct 24, 2013, 17:23:59
Apple release a OS X update once a year and last year there was no issues from what I remember. :-\
There was packet loss on the same night and following day when iOS 7 was released though.
Just checked and my throughput is back up to it's normal self on both tests off thinkbroadband. :D :thumb:
I did notice that I was disconnected from idnet at 2am this morning for a short while (broadband was up) so suspect there may have been some work or rebalancing connections about that time which probably sorted the issue out for me.
Going bad again tonight it seems. Oh well I'm mostly out anyway and little I do really needs the speed or low latency.
FTTC is having a massive effect on the volume of internet traffic, and it's going to get worse. ::) Just perhaps those of us downloading all at once because we can, need to think of others? Even my dog realises he doesn't eat the whole 12kg bad of food at once just because it's there. But we're British = idiots.
Quote from: mervl on Oct 24, 2013, 18:50:43
FTTC is having a massive effect on the volume of internet traffic, and it's going to get worse. ::) Just perhaps those of us downloading all at once because we can, need to think of others? Even my dog realises he doesn't eat the whole 12kg bad of food at once just because it's there. But we're British = idiots.
Yet other ISP's are fine...I think t more to do with bandwidth as Simon said earlier on that some notion of think before you download ;)
Looks like it recovered while I was out. Certainly back to normal now:
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/138265622108828170703.png)
I seems to have started again... it can't still be Mavericks :mad:
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share-thumb/699b87773a7ecb653725a08436f17054-28-10-2013.png) (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/699b87773a7ecb653725a08436f17054-28-10-2013.html)
Ignore the spike, that was me.
BT problems? Floods? Damage from fallen trees? :dunno:
Not enough bandwidth? (http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,31430.msg719266.html#msg719266)
It could be what you suggest, but it's following the same pattern as last week... if it happens again tomorrow, I'll stick with my idea.
Absolutely horrendous tonight. I'm getting packet loss left, right, and centre. Half the sites I try are either churning away and not loading at all, or are taking upwards of minutes to load. :(
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share-thumb/98e5293d796a55493022fb0314f5916b-29-10-2013.png)
There was an update on this today. The problems should hopefully ease from Thursday:
http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,31445.msg719675.html#msg719675
Thanks for that, Simon (she says, after waiting a minute and a half for the reply page to load). Only one more day to wait, then. Oy!
It's quite weird though, as personally, I've not had any issues. Page loaded in 0.182 seconds. :dunno:
The forum does have its funny 5 mins now and again for me as well, I reported it to Zap the other day.
It might be the bandwidth issues or something going wrong with the forum db/server... But it'll be hard to tell with the bandwidth issue at the mo.
Sometimes the forum is unbearably slow for me as well. Pages take ages to load, once again not sure if its a bandwidth issue or forum one. It does seem to be FTTC users that are effected most, I wonder why.
I'm also finding this forum quite slow to respond more often than not but it's been the same elsewhere else off and on during the last few days so it might be due to the current bandwidth issues which I have to say are becoming more than a little tedious. BBC iPlayer for example buffers continually.
Quote from: Fizzy on Oct 24, 2013, 18:05:27
Just checked and my throughput is back up to it's normal self on both tests off thinkbroadband. :D :thumb:
I did notice that I was disconnected from idnet at 2am this morning for a short while (broadband was up) so suspect there may have been some work or rebalancing connections about that time which probably sorted the issue out for me.
Dropped massively again today. :'( Down to below a tenth of normal on TBB test. On the plus side I received a couple of warnings about predicted peak time usage earlier in the month going over my limit - this will prevent me doing that today. :evil:
Seems to back to normal for me now:
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/138324094805448660802.png)
:fingers:
Although my TBBQM graph still looks naff.
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share-thumb/54b54cde9f3a3cc16ff370df7c43c93e-31-10-2013.png)