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Technical News & Discussion => Broadband, Internet & General Computer News & Discussion => Topic started by: Technical Ben on Aug 11, 2013, 20:08:23

Title: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: Technical Ben on Aug 11, 2013, 20:08:23
Well, we knew they would probably mess something up with the DNS blocking scheme, but never thought it could be used to attack others!
http://torrentfreak.com/skys-court-ordered-piracy-filter-blocks-torrentfreak-130809/

I guess they will now introduce a "whitelist" which does not get automatically blocked. Oh, but no, only they can decide who goes on the good list. While I trust them not to put places like IDNetters on the bad list, what's the chances they mess up? (I'll not attribute malice to what idiocy can cover ;) )
Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: pctech on Aug 11, 2013, 20:18:10
The blocking appears to be IP based so I suspect a lot of sites could get wound up in it if their hosting company or connectivity provider is also hosting or connecting those hosting what they want to block.

Like DRM this will backfire on them.

Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: Simon on Aug 11, 2013, 20:36:48
The whole thing is a disaster waiting to happen.  ::)
Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: Simon on Aug 11, 2013, 20:40:25
I wonder how long it will be before one of the big ISPs challenge the court order, and win, on the grounds of unreasonable restriction of customer usage, or something to that effect?
Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: Gary on Aug 12, 2013, 08:51:37
Whats IDNets stance on this?
Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: Simon on Aug 12, 2013, 09:05:36
We've not heard anything. 
Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: Gary on Aug 12, 2013, 10:41:32
Quote from IDNet on facebook 'We do not favour censorship of a kind but obviously we will comply with the law if we are forced to'

AAISP's statement "The government wants us to offer filtering as an option, so we offer an active choice when you sign up, you choose one of two options:-

    'Unfiltered Internet access - no filtering of any content within the A&A network - you are responsible for any filtering in your own network, or
    Censored Internet access - restricted access to unpublished government mandated filter list (plus Daily Mail web site) - but still cannot guarantee kids don't access porn.

If you choose censored you are advised: Sorry, for a censored internet you will have to pick a different ISP or move to North Korea. Our services are all unfiltered"

Is that a good enough active choice for you Mr Cameron'
Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: mervl on Aug 12, 2013, 14:56:12
In fairness to the Government  :laugh: I think they made a working assumption that the idiots who need nannying join the big ISPs, those with the smaller ISPs know what they're doing and can look after themselves. Fair enough.
Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: Simon on Aug 12, 2013, 15:18:05
That's what I was hoping for.  But I guess, if its overall legislation, then all ISPs will have to comply.
Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: Technical Ben on Aug 12, 2013, 18:06:06
Quote from: Simon on Aug 12, 2013, 15:18:05
That's what I was hoping for.  But I guess, if its overall legislation, then all ISPs will have to comply.

Very very simple option. Change the name from an "ISP" and become a "Data Access Fiber Transport Server" or an "Automated Relay of Signals Enterprise". ;)
Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: Simon on Aug 12, 2013, 19:40:29
Yes, I'm sure some will find a way around it.  ;D
Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: mervl on Aug 12, 2013, 21:30:04
Quote from: Simon on Aug 12, 2013, 15:18:05
But I guess, if its overall legislation, then all ISPs will have to comply.

I suspect it's "persuasion" from Dave "The Persuader". The Government gets itself in all sorts of tangles when it tries to legislate to make men good (trying, I suppose to improve on God and women) -  :red: oops I've just breached all the forum rules about discrimination and blasphemy haven't I? - one of the beneficial effects of the Human Rights Act stuff.
Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: Simon on Aug 12, 2013, 22:33:05
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: pctech on Aug 14, 2013, 19:47:26
All this will do is cost ISPs in terms of hardware and labour, it will achieve nothing else.



Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: cavillas on Aug 15, 2013, 10:09:24
Camaron is a moron concerning the Internet and all modern electronic communication stuff, he lives in the past of Government controlling how people have to act, think and behave.  Time all politicians embraced and entered the modern world.
Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: Technical Ben on Aug 15, 2013, 18:13:26
Ah... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/15/site_blocking_after_court_orders_against_sites_illegally_serving_copyrighted_material/

Well, there goes the neighborhood...  :laugh:

Even DuckDuckGo was hit.
Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: pctech on Aug 16, 2013, 20:00:04
Yep it was DuckDuckStopped

;D
Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: Technical Ben on Aug 17, 2013, 17:15:56
Do we have a :moan: smiley?  ;)
Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: pctech on Aug 17, 2013, 17:33:11
I was at work and had to amuse myself some way.

Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: Simon on Aug 17, 2013, 18:05:05
How about doing some work?  ;D
Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: pctech on Aug 18, 2013, 19:27:10
We've got a quiet period at the mo.

Title: Re: Oh, no one saw this comming...
Post by: Technical Ben on Aug 18, 2013, 19:32:05
That's ok, a colleague was multiboxing on Friday...  :laugh: