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Title: Wiring routes
Post by: tehidyman on Jan 22, 2013, 11:45:36
I have a Cat5e extension wired into the back of a filtered faceplate and ending in a filtered extension.  Will the BT engineer be able to use this cable wired into the back of the new fibre face plate to run to my Modem and Router where I have the power outlets.  I would like to do it this way to keep the cable run concealed and avoid drilling a hole through the wall.  BT chat could not help and searching only seems to cover straight forward set ups.
Title: Re: Wiring routes
Post by: jm_paulin on Mar 07, 2013, 07:42:00
Just curious...  My guess would be no,  as they will not take responsibility for it.  So what did they do? 
Title: Re: Wiring routes
Post by: tehidyman on Mar 07, 2013, 08:01:48
Order not placed yet.  Still pondering. :-\
Title: Re: Wiring routes
Post by: Polchraine on Mar 07, 2013, 09:25:32
Quote from: tehidyman on Jan 22, 2013, 11:45:36
I have a Cat5e extension wired into the back of a filtered faceplate and ending in a filtered extension.  Will the BT engineer be able to use this cable wired into the back of the new fibre face plate to run to my Modem and Router where I have the power outlets.  I would like to do it this way to keep the cable run concealed and avoid drilling a hole through the wall.  BT chat could not help and searching only seems to cover straight forward set ups.

It will really depend on WHO you get.

You should get a new faceplate at the master.    That will have both filtered and unfiltered terminals on it.   Have the modem installed and tested at that point.

Then,   terminate the Cat5e on the faceplate - use one pair on the A&B unfiltered terminals and another pair on the voice 2&5 with a single wire on 3 (ring - if required).      At the extension,  get rid of the ADSL faceplate and fit a modular faceplate with a BT socket and an RJ11 socket.

That way there will be no arguments about who owns/did what and who is responsible.


Title: Re: Wiring routes
Post by: tehidyman on Mar 07, 2013, 12:24:56
Quote from: Polchraine on Mar 07, 2013, 09:25:32
It will really depend on WHO you get.

You should get a new faceplate at the master.    That will have both filtered and unfiltered terminals on it.   Have the modem installed and tested at that point.

Then,   terminate the Cat5e on the faceplate - use one pair on the A&B unfiltered terminals and another pair on the voice 2&5 with a single wire on 3 (ring - if required).      At the extension,  get rid of the ADSL faceplate and fit a modular faceplate with a BT socket and an RJ11 socket.

That way there will be no arguments about who owns/did what and who is responsible.



Thanks for the advice.  Will file for when I make up my mind.
Title: Re: Wiring routes
Post by: tehidyman on May 12, 2013, 11:47:17
I am expecting the engineer to come next week and intend to follow your advice .  I am having a bit of a challenge to get a modular faceplate with the BT module and the RJ11 module from the same source. As a short term measure, if I only need broadband from the extension will the extension RJ11 socket be OK. As far as I can tell the RJ11 modules are described as ADSL and vDSL. I would then only wire from the A & B terminals on the faceplate in the first instance.
Title: Re: Wiring routes
Post by: Polchraine on May 12, 2013, 21:18:14
Quote from: tehidyman on May 12, 2013, 11:47:17
I am expecting the engineer to come next week and intend to follow your advice .  I am having a bit of a challenge to get a modular faceplate with the BT module and the RJ11 module from the same source. As a short term measure, if I only need broadband from the extension will the extension RJ11 socket be OK. As far as I can tell the RJ11 modules are described as ADSL and vDSL. I would then only wire from the A & B terminals on the faceplate in the first instance.


That should be fine ...     Run the A&B using a pair in Cat5e to the centre pins (3&4) of the RJ11 although depending on modem you may need to choose 2&5,  then connect another pair to 2 & 5 of the filtered faceplate along with a single to 3 ready for  telephony.  - As for the modules, they are a standard size so you could use them from different sources although they may look a little different in colour.
Title: Re: Wiring routes
Post by: Tacitus on May 13, 2013, 11:14:55
Quote from: tehidyman on May 12, 2013, 11:47:17
I am having a bit of a challenge to get a modular faceplate with the BT module and the RJ11 module from the same source.

Not sure which supplier you are using but Clarity usually have both in stock.   http://www.clarity.it/xcart/home.php?cat=259 (http://www.clarity.it/xcart/home.php?cat=259)
Title: Re: Wiring routes
Post by: tehidyman on May 13, 2013, 13:15:06
Quote from: Tacitus on May 13, 2013, 11:14:55
Not sure which supplier you are using but Clarity usually have both in stock.   http://www.clarity.it/xcart/home.php?cat=259 (http://www.clarity.it/xcart/home.php?cat=259)
Thanks, just what I was looking for.
Title: Re: Wiring routes
Post by: tehidyman on May 20, 2013, 09:16:39
Quote from: jm_paulin on Mar 07, 2013, 07:42:00
Just curious...  My guess would be no,  as they will not take responsibility for it.  So what did they do? 
The engineer has just left having completed the job here in about 15min.  The Clarity filtered faceplate on my BT master meant that he did not need to fit an interstitial plate and he left my faceplate untouched, including my Cat5e cable connection running to the extension. My existing filtered extension he used, plugging the modem in using my existing cable. A few quick checks and a speedtest 37.62Mb/s down and 8.99Mb/s up.  Then a friendly chat over tea and he was off to his next call. Thanks however to all replies to my queries.
Title: Re: Wiring routes
Post by: colirv on Jun 18, 2013, 12:05:21
Is that a 40/10 service? I didn't think IDNet offered that.
Title: Re: Wiring routes
Post by: tehidyman on Jun 18, 2013, 12:23:07
Quote from: colirv on Jun 18, 2013, 12:05:21
Is that a 40/10 service? I didn't think IDNet offered that.
It is a 40/10 service but I moved ISP to get it. Now with BT
Title: Re: Wiring routes
Post by: brian_idnet on Jun 18, 2013, 13:07:03
Hi Colin,

FTTC services are availble where the exchange/cab has been updated by BT. details of our packages are here:

http://idnet.net/data_products/fttc.php

The Lite package is up to 38Mbps/2Mbps, the other packages are up to 76Mbps/19Mbps

Regards,

Brian
IDNet
Title: Re: Wiring routes
Post by: colirv on Jun 18, 2013, 14:03:26
Thanks, Brian. I'm actually on the FTTC Lite package at the moment, but the 25GB limit is nowhere near enough so, like tehidyman, I'll probably change ISP when my year runs out in December.