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Title: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Simon on Sep 12, 2012, 19:45:12
Apple reveals the iPhone 5, revamping a line-up that accounted for more than half of its sales.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19572820

Can't honestly say I'm all that excited about it. :-\
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: psp83 on Sep 12, 2012, 19:51:14
iDevices are not that exciting anymore, the iPhone5 doesn't bring that many changes from iPhone4/s

I've been thinking about changing to a Samsung phone or a Windows phone recently.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Simon on Sep 12, 2012, 19:55:00
I've certainly looked at the Samsung S3, I just don't like Android.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Gary on Sep 12, 2012, 20:43:16
What can phones do that they don't now? Its getting harder to innovate, but the iPhone construction is very good, I'll be pre ordering (if I can ) a 64GB one Friday, Already have a buyer for my 4S so cost is negligible. Having seen Justina's Sensation fall apart and experienced the plastic build quality of the S3 I just think I'll keep current, I like the iPhone for my needs, i don't need to be excited, just pleased and happy with reliability and performance, and IOS still does that for me, some like Android and thats fine but still its just another phone, its all down to personal choice, I don't buy computers to be excited, I have sex for that ;) 
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: zappaDPJ on Sep 12, 2012, 20:44:37
I'll probably be buying one at some point for the 16:9 screen ratio but I'm in no rush.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Gary on Sep 12, 2012, 20:47:23
Quote from: zappaDPJ on Sep 12, 2012, 20:44:37
I'll probably be buying one at some point for the 16:9 screen ratio but I'm in no rush.
I am as my buyer wants mine quite quickly, means the 5 Costs £150 for a 64Gb model as my 4S was 64Gb and had applecare for another year too. They do hold value well.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: zappaDPJ on Sep 12, 2012, 20:48:53
They do, that's a good point. I might look at selling mine for a quicker upgrade :)
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: pctech on Sep 12, 2012, 22:18:52
The new one does look very nice but the £500 price tag prevents me from buying one seeing as I spent 630 for a complete PC (ex VAT)

Sorry but its a joke
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Niall on Sep 12, 2012, 22:21:28
Quote from: Simon on Sep 12, 2012, 19:45:12
Apple reveals the iPhone 5, revamping a line-up that accounted for more than half of its sales.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19572820

Can't honestly say I'm all that excited about it. :-\

My cousin was at the event, and he said the same thing. I've also read that pretty much everyone is saying the same thing.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Simon on Sep 12, 2012, 22:34:29
I'm not sure I like the idea of it being 'taller' but no wider than the 4S.  I have enough trouble keeping hold of mine while typing, as it seems to slip out of the fingers quite easily, and I think a taller one might be top heavy, even though they are saying it's lighter.  I also don't like the idea of having to buy adapters for all of my docks and accessories - what advantage does the new connector have over the old one?
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Lance on Sep 12, 2012, 22:37:29
Other than being smaller and it not making a difference which way you put the cable in? I gather from some chatter that it might open up the possibility to having cables terminating in something other than a USB port. Thus means the potential perhaps for a hdmi connection without the adapter.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Steve on Sep 12, 2012, 22:42:59
Sadly I only use the connector for charging, every thing else is via 'airplay'. I think I'll be sticking to my 4S , it's nearly brand new and cost a lot of money , that is unless my wife forces me at gunpoint to give her the 4S  :eek4:
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Simon on Sep 12, 2012, 22:48:47
... or threatens to withdraw privileges.  :evil:
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Niall on Sep 12, 2012, 23:07:46
http://www.firstpost.com/tech/iphone-5-in-trouble-samsung-to-sue-htc-wants-it-banned-450923.html

So it begins ;D
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Simon on Sep 12, 2012, 23:53:00
:laugh:
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Steve on Sep 13, 2012, 08:17:51
I'm assuming the £529 will be for the 16Gb version, which is more than I paid for the 4s 32Gb @£499. Interested to see what the equivalent 5 will cost, I fear no change out of £600.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: pctech on Sep 13, 2012, 16:16:26
This video made me chuckle about the 'precision manufacturing' http://www.apple.com/iphone/#video


No mention of poor Chinese workers.

Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Steve on Sep 13, 2012, 16:51:35
Interesting article on 4G here http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/5441-apple-iphone-5-will-only-operate-on-one-4g-band-in-the-uk.html

I can't believe Apple researched this badly and I find the last paragraph very revealing.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: pctech on Sep 13, 2012, 17:01:21
They will have made sure it would work in the US certainly, anywhere else including a small island thousands of miles from the US would be considered a lower priority.

Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Rik on Sep 13, 2012, 17:04:28
Let the dust settle time, methinks.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Steve on Sep 13, 2012, 17:12:09
Especially since we've no 4G network in the UK to speak of and the network we plan to use for 4G is unsold. If and when we have a network I think that there will be an iPhone that supports.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Glenn on Sep 13, 2012, 17:19:24
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/13/lte-iphone-5-uk-ee-and-three-in-uk-but-not-o2-and-vodafone-4g/
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Steve on Sep 13, 2012, 17:34:03
But when are the likes of me going to see 4G coverage, whether it be with EE or Three? If this is going to happen in the next year then people will have to seriously think which provider to use. If it's a couple of years time then it's probably not an issue. I can't see O2 and Vodafone being desperately happy at purchasing the 2.6GHz spectrum when one of their big money earners won't work on it.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: pctech on Sep 13, 2012, 17:48:46
From what I've read some of the newer Node B kit maybe LTE ready and just need a software upgrade but the older kit will need replacing.

Before Huawei took over O2's network management they appointed Ericsson to upgrade the south of the UK and Nokia Siemens Networks got the north, how long this project is along or whether the stuff got delivered or installed at all only O2 know.

Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Steve on Sep 13, 2012, 17:55:03
Not that I should worry, it's a novelty for me to get 3G signal , unless I went to Orange and then the phone wouldn't 'work' at work at all. - can't win.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Glenn on Sep 13, 2012, 17:57:50
Huawei replace Ericsson as Three's network provider in December, so I maybe looking for a job soon.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Rik on Sep 13, 2012, 18:08:31
I hope not.  :fingers:
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Steve on Sep 13, 2012, 18:09:38
Indeed.  :fingers:
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Simon on Sep 13, 2012, 18:25:10
Good luck, Glenn.   :fingers:
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Technical Ben on Sep 13, 2012, 21:45:39
Quote from: psp83 on Sep 12, 2012, 19:51:14
iDevices are not that exciting anymore, the iPhone5 doesn't bring that many changes from iPhone4/s

I've been thinking about changing to a Samsung phone or a Windows phone recently.

Seems it's the "tick" where most are waiting for the "tock". :P
Has it got a higher res screen? I'm one of "if it ain't broken [don't buy a new one]". So the only draw for a purchase or change is if the new model actually has something better and more useful. 4G is just "faster internet", which is not much use IMO over "fast internet" that HSPA/3G offers.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Technical Ben on Sep 13, 2012, 21:47:57
Quote from: pctech on Sep 12, 2012, 22:18:52
The new one does look very nice but the £500 price tag prevents me from buying one seeing as I spent 630 for a complete PC (ex VAT)

Sorry but its a joke

PS, it's the form factor though. Smaller computers always cost a lot more! But I agree it might not be a necessity for such a small computer, so I'll also keep to my PC for now. Although a mate just said I can pick up a good one on a £18 contract!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: pctech on Sep 13, 2012, 22:27:27
Quote from: Glenn on Sep 13, 2012, 17:57:50
Huawei replace Ericsson as Three's network provider in December, so I maybe looking for a job soon.

Hope not mate, things definitely ain't improving out there, irrespective of what the ConDems say.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Gary on Sep 14, 2012, 08:31:10
One iPhone 5 64Gb pre ordered  ;D Just have to get hold of a nano sim now...
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Gary on Sep 14, 2012, 08:32:46
Quote from: pctech on Sep 12, 2012, 22:18:52
The new one does look very nice but the £500 price tag prevents me from buying one seeing as I spent 630 for a complete PC (ex VAT)

Sorry but its a joke
You do realise you HTC phones were probably close to £400 sim free, Mitch. The New Samsung Galaxy S3 was £500 at release.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: lozcart on Sep 14, 2012, 08:34:46
Quote from: Gary on Sep 14, 2012, 08:31:10
One iPhone 5 64Gb pre ordered  ;D Just have to get hold of a nano sim now...


16gb ordered, just need O2 to sort out a SIM.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Steve on Sep 14, 2012, 08:38:59
I'm keeping the 4S , the wife's happy ;D My original iPad needs an upgrade and that's cheaper than the equivalent phone.  Looking at HTC we are now on our 4th in two years there is no comparison in build quality imo.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Gary on Sep 14, 2012, 08:57:06
Quote from: Steve on Sep 14, 2012, 08:38:59
I'm keeping the 4S , the wife's happy ;D My original iPad needs an upgrade and that's cheaper than the equivalent phone.  Looking at HTC we are now on our 4th in two years there is no comparison in build quality imo.
Justina's HTC just broke this week, stopped working its been sent in for repair, motherboard it appears, thats one thing I like about Apple, a new phone to your house next day by courier with apple care.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Gary on Sep 14, 2012, 08:58:02
Quote from: lozcart on Sep 14, 2012, 08:34:46
16gb ordered, just need O2 to sort out a SIM.
Take your printed pre order in and show them, they should hopefully give you a nano sim.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Steve on Sep 14, 2012, 09:06:45
Probably time via the post I think the providers have been stocking up over the last few months.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Steve on Sep 14, 2012, 09:10:21
Quote from: Gary on Sep 14, 2012, 08:57:06
Justina's HTC just broke this week, stopped working its been sent in for repair, motherboard it appears, thats one thing I like about Apple, a new phone to your house next day by courier with apple care.

Orange care supply a handset within 24 hours, very glad we took it out.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Gary on Sep 14, 2012, 09:32:21
Quote from: Steve on Sep 14, 2012, 09:06:45
Probably time via the post I think the providers have been stocking up over the last few months.
Orange it seems will charge unless you buy the phone off them, O2 it seems have no clue apart from going into store on day of release, which is not easy for some, or convenient. <sigh>
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Steve on Sep 14, 2012, 09:42:13
I see the deliver time has now moved to 2 weeks (from the 21st)
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Gary on Sep 14, 2012, 09:52:06
Quote from: Steve on Sep 14, 2012, 09:42:13
I see the deliver time has now moved to 2 weeks (from the 21st)
I guess they only have a certain amount of handsets that will get delivered on the 21st, at least the servers did not crash today
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Simon on Sep 14, 2012, 10:58:32
So, is this nano SIM different again to the one in the 4S?
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Steve on Sep 14, 2012, 11:01:13
4S is mini SIM - so yes it's different.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Simon on Sep 14, 2012, 11:05:01
:ffs:
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Steve on Sep 14, 2012, 11:18:22
Eventually it will be so small it won't exist.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Simon on Sep 14, 2012, 11:21:04
You'll need tweezers and a microscope to fit it now!
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: lozcart on Sep 14, 2012, 11:32:24
I've heard a rumour (so probably incorrect) that you get a Nano Sim supplied with the phone. This would seem logical, send a generic Sim and then activate it with your carrier on their website.

We shall see.......
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Steve on Sep 14, 2012, 11:37:57
May not be the case? http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/380505/20120904/tmobile-nano-sim-delivery-iphone-5-launch.htm
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: talos on Sep 14, 2012, 15:56:24
Cant get a decent 3G round here, 4G no chance, dont think I'll bother :no:
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: pctech on Sep 14, 2012, 18:52:35
At home I have a choice of O2 or a service provider hosted on O2, have tried SIMs from all the other networks and they just don't work.

Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: lozcart on Sep 18, 2012, 21:08:12
Picked up a Nano Sim from my local O2 shop today, it comes with a adaptor to convert it back to micro Sim size. I have therefore activated it and are currently using it in my iPhone 4 so it is ready to move to my new iPhone 5 on Friday.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: pctech on Sep 19, 2012, 14:10:20
Quote from: Gary on Sep 14, 2012, 08:32:46
You do realise you HTC phones were probably close to £400 sim free, Mitch. The New Samsung Galaxy S3 was £500 at release.

I did pay £300 and odd for my Desire S, I'll never do that again.

Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Glenn on Sep 21, 2012, 18:29:39
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/story/2012/09/14/apple-pushes-back-shipping-date-for-iphone-5/57781120/1
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: pctech on Sep 21, 2012, 19:26:58
First batch sold out?

Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: lozcart on Sep 21, 2012, 20:06:18
Received my iPhone 5 this morning, no scuffs to report on the black bezel, impressed with the speed of it and how light it feels  ;D
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Gary on Sep 22, 2012, 08:25:36
Quote from: lozcart on Sep 21, 2012, 20:06:18
Received my iPhone 5 this morning, no scuffs to report on the black bezel, impressed with the speed of it and how light it feels  ;D
Same here, I was busy playing with it yesterday.  No scuffs although I will get a case, very fast, great screen too, colours are much richer. What struck me was how light it is, its great for watching movies and Its good to have it running over the 5Ghz spectrum on my router.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: Technical Ben on Sep 22, 2012, 11:19:50
Sometime the perceived speed boost or lightness is psychological. ;) http://youtu.be/rdIWKytq_q4

If the other features are helpful though, then it will be worth it. Seems more of a tock than a tick to me though.
Title: Re: Apple unveils 4G-enabled iPhone 5
Post by: pctech on Sep 22, 2012, 11:58:42
I like tocks but then I like ticks as well but which is better? there's only one way to find out..............FIGHT!