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Title: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: David on Apr 28, 2012, 17:50:33
I am in the process of wiring the home up my router is in the sitting room......I ran a cat cable around that room and drilled a hole into the front room.... ok I have two pc,s running off that router
My question is above this room I want to wire the bedroom directly above this one is there a double type socket type thing which would allow me to use the 30 meter cable I have to just run the cable along the skirting up the wall through the cieling which would mean I could plug the bedroom PC in without running a cable from the router and up stairs taking up boards on landing and bedroom

I find it hard to believe that something like that isnt availabel but dont know how to google it

I have a netgear switch which has never been used but dount this  would do it but in theory it should  :dunno:

A David classic question I know but my medication is due soon 
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Rik on Apr 28, 2012, 17:56:27
You can't double up two machines on one cable, David.
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: David on Apr 28, 2012, 18:04:19
No I want to join two cable Rik sorry I wasnt clear
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: pctech on Apr 28, 2012, 18:06:21
Here's what you are looking for David http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ehternet+cable+joiner&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb

Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Rik on Apr 28, 2012, 18:07:52
I was tossing up which you were trying to do. ;)

http://www.maplin.co.uk/inline-coupler-for-networking-44750
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Rik on Apr 28, 2012, 18:08:26
Quote from: pctech on Apr 28, 2012, 18:06:21
Here's what you are looking for David http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ehternet+cable+joiner&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb



You beat me to it. ;)
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: pctech on Apr 28, 2012, 18:10:32
If only it was that quick to research errors via Google at work.

I swear it knows when I've got someone on the phone and I'm trying to look up an obscure error as it usually shoves up all the junk.

Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Rik on Apr 28, 2012, 18:13:02
Google is perverse. ;D
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: David on Apr 28, 2012, 18:22:30
Quote from: Rik on Apr 28, 2012, 18:07:52
I was tossing up which you were trying to do. ;)

http://www.maplin.co.uk/inline-coupler-for-networking-44750

Watch the eyesight Rik  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Rik on Apr 28, 2012, 18:28:39
 :whistle: ;D
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Glenn on Apr 28, 2012, 18:29:59
Before I opened this, I thought why are you taking cats for a walk?  :whistle:
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Rik on Apr 28, 2012, 18:30:29
:rofl: :karmic:
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Glenn on Apr 28, 2012, 18:31:44
 :thnks:
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: pctech on Apr 28, 2012, 18:55:44
Quote from: Glenn on Apr 28, 2012, 18:29:59
Before I opened this, I thought why are you taking cats for a walk?  :whistle:

Nah his cat takes HIM for a walk.

Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: David on Apr 28, 2012, 18:58:38
 :-X :-X Mrs Slowcum comes to mind  ;D ;D ;D

I think thats how to spell her name   :whistle:
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: David on Apr 28, 2012, 18:59:23
Quote from: Rik on Apr 28, 2012, 18:07:52
I was tossing up which you were trying to do. ;)

http://www.maplin.co.uk/inline-coupler-for-networking-44750

Thanks Rik just recerved on .....Maplins is just across the road to me   :thumb:
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: pctech on Apr 28, 2012, 19:04:54
Ah yes Mrs Slocombe

Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: David on Apr 28, 2012, 19:28:07
And a fine actress I did like Molly Sugden an underated actor in my book 
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: David on Apr 28, 2012, 19:36:31
Oh no I just realised I want a single into a double ! at least I know what Im looking for now 
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Glenn on Apr 28, 2012, 19:38:01
Then you need to use a switch or hub.
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: David on Apr 28, 2012, 19:58:03
Thanks Glenn I have one in the cupboard never even knew what it was to be honest  :blush: ;D
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: nowster on Apr 28, 2012, 22:09:34
You'll find searching easier if you search for cat5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_5_cable

The device you're after is a coupler.
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Gary on Apr 29, 2012, 08:42:09
Wouldn't it have been easier to use Homeplugs? Netgear does a  blisteringly fast one with a four port switch. I tried it out, got over 80Mbs over it which is pretty impressive. It would have stayed buy Justina didn't like the cables dangling down the wall. My power sockets are about 1 meter off the ground for me to have easy access. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Netgear-XAVB5004-Powerline-4-Port-Theater/dp/B004I9IANS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1335685229&sr=8-2
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: talos on Apr 29, 2012, 09:28:19
Quote from: Glenn on Apr 28, 2012, 18:29:59
Before I opened this, I thought why are you taking cats for a walk?  :whistle:

So did I  :slap:
                               Yes they are available, got one from the local shop a couple of weeks ago, bout 30p, cheap but effective :)
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Rik on Apr 29, 2012, 10:46:03
Quote from: David on Apr 28, 2012, 19:36:31
Oh no I just realised I want a single into a double ! at least I know what Im looking for now 

As Glenn says, you need a switch for that job, David, you can't 'split' a network cable as you can a phone line.
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: David on Apr 29, 2012, 11:26:15
I think I got the idea I am thinking now to mount the switch in this room and run the cable up through the ceiling and the switch will then serve both this room and the rooms directly above ?
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Glenn on Apr 29, 2012, 11:39:26
Like this David

                                                   
                                                   Switch
                                                       l----------- Upstairs computer
                                  Router --------l
                                                       l----------- Downstairs computer
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Gary on Apr 29, 2012, 11:47:28
When we had out BT main socket moved by my my friendly BT engineer he ran the cable though the roof down into the study, then 'spit' the cable running back the voice to the spare socket in the lounge from the faceplate in the study. All very neat. £20 and munchies.  :)
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: David on Apr 29, 2012, 11:50:12
Quote from: Glenn on Apr 29, 2012, 11:39:26
Like this David

                                                   
                                                   Switch
                                                       l----------- Upstairs computer
                                  Router --------l
                                                       l----------- Downstairs computer

Yes that the configuarion I have in mind Glenn mount the switch on the wall here near power point and run the cable out of sight upstairs  :thumb:
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: David on Apr 29, 2012, 11:51:57
Quote from: Gary on Apr 29, 2012, 11:47:28
When we had out BT main socket moved by my my friendly BT engineer he ran the cable though the roof down into the study, then 'spit' the cable running back the voice to the spare socket in the lounge from the faceplate in the study. All very neat. £20 and munchies.  :)
Thankfully since having everything renewed by Bt from the pole outside to the socket I wont be seeing any engineers until the FTTC is availabe which has been put back again   :shake:
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Gary on Apr 29, 2012, 11:53:42
Quote from: David on Apr 29, 2012, 11:51:57
Thankfully since having everything renewed by Bt from the pole outside to the socket I wont be seeing any engineers until the FTTC is availabe which has been put back again   :shake:
Oh I have one I just call up David, nice guy I went to school with, makes life dead handy for internal wiring jobs  ;) If you get to know one and get his number they will sometimes do internal jobs off the books.
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: David on Apr 29, 2012, 11:55:49
I am but a humble labourer Gary who knows no-one which such high level skills   :(
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Bill on Apr 29, 2012, 13:34:05
Quote from: Rik on Apr 28, 2012, 17:56:27
You can't double up two machines on one cable, David.

You can Rik: Cat5 Economiser (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ethernet-Cable-Economiser-Kit/dp/B000Q6EC0C)

It's something of a kludge and not recommended for long-term use, and only works for 10/100Mbps.

I only found out about them the other day when I said the same as you :red:
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Rik on Apr 29, 2012, 14:30:22
Thanks, Bill, I'm always learning.
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Bill on Apr 29, 2012, 15:16:54
Apparently they've been around since year dot, but I hadn't heard of them either.

Very useful when you need a temporary second connection and running a cable isn't practicable- eg there's a wall in the way! But not for much else.
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: JB on Apr 29, 2012, 16:05:41
Don't forget to mount the switch somewhere with a bit of airflow David. Sometimes they generate a little heat if left on H24.
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: David on Apr 29, 2012, 16:15:11
Thanks I will going to mount it under my desk with nothing else there to restrict airflow  :thumb:
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Gary on Apr 29, 2012, 17:40:16
Quote from: David on Apr 29, 2012, 11:55:49
I am but a humble labourer Gary who knows no-one which such high level skills   :(
tea and bacon sarnies David  ;)
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: David on Apr 29, 2012, 17:43:24
Aye two sugars lad make that brew good un strong now lad  ;D

Oh sorry I thought you were inviting me around  ;D
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Gary on Apr 29, 2012, 17:45:47
Quote from: David on Apr 29, 2012, 17:43:24
Aye two sugars lad make that brew good un strong now lad  ;D

Oh sorry I thought you were inviting me around  ;D
;D If you lived closer David I would.
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: David on Apr 29, 2012, 17:51:44
I know Gary and I would accept thank you   :thumb:
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Gary on Apr 29, 2012, 17:54:47
Quote from: David on Apr 29, 2012, 17:51:44
I know Gary and I would accept thank you   :thumb:
:thumb:
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Polchraine on May 03, 2012, 00:24:07
Quote from: Rik on Apr 28, 2012, 18:07:52
I was tossing up which you were trying to do. ;)

http://www.maplin.co.uk/inline-coupler-for-networking-44750

At the at price, it would be almost as cheap to by a 4 port switch.    I was buying those four years back at about 10-20p each!
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: Bill on May 03, 2012, 09:09:52
And Amazon are a LOT cheaper:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/RJ45-Coupler-Cat-5e-straight/dp/B000MQM2FS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336032504&sr=8-1
Title: Re: Can I buy a gizmo to join cat leads
Post by: talos on May 03, 2012, 09:33:19
Quote from: talos on Apr 29, 2012, 09:28:19
So did I  :slap:
                               Yes they are available, got one from the local shop a couple of weeks ago, bout 30p, cheap but effective :)


I said that didn't I,  didn't I say that :dunno: loads of posts ago  :slap: why does nobody ever listen  :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
         Im going home now to sulk  :'(