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Title: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Simon on Mar 13, 2012, 23:59:25
Anyone else having trouble with this?  Half the time it crashes, and when it does work, it takes about 10 minutes to sync my iPhone, while ramping up the CPU usage to +60%.  I've uninstalled and reinstalled, which cured it for a day, but now it's back to a crawl again.  I don't use WiFi sync, or iCloud, so it's neither of those causing the problem.  Any ideas?
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: zappaDPJ on Mar 14, 2012, 00:33:53
I've no problems of that nature but since I updated to the same version it keeps adding 98 unidentified audio tracks to my phone. If shut down iTunes and restart it the tracks are gone :dunno:
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Steve on Mar 14, 2012, 06:59:58
I tend not to use iTunes anymore.
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Gary on Mar 14, 2012, 07:44:57
Working fine here.
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: lozcart on Mar 14, 2012, 08:51:31
I haven't had any problems  :fingers:
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Gary on Mar 14, 2012, 10:12:17
Quote from: Simon on Mar 13, 2012, 23:59:25
Anyone else having trouble with this?  Half the time it crashes, and when it does work, it takes about 10 minutes to sync my iPhone, while ramping up the CPU usage to +60%.  I've uninstalled and reinstalled, which cured it for a day, but now it's back to a crawl again.  I don't use WiFi sync, or iCloud, so it's neither of those causing the problem.  Any ideas?
Not sure if any of this helps https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3787663?start=0&tstart=0
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Simon on Mar 14, 2012, 10:35:34
Thanks Gary, but I don't ever use video with it, so I don't think it could be that.  :dunno:
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Gary on Mar 14, 2012, 11:02:38
Quote from: Simon on Mar 14, 2012, 10:35:34
Thanks Gary, but I don't ever use video with it, so I don't think it could be that.  :dunno:
When you say it crashes, is that when you connect your iPhone only, Simon?

It could be a bug, have a look on  the apple forums for iTunes for Windows
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: pctech on Mar 14, 2012, 11:07:26
Its a conspiracy, nake it as crummy as possible on Windows so you'll buy a Mac.  :evil:

No problem on XP by the way though I've not synced my Nano since I upgraded.



Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Simon on Mar 14, 2012, 11:17:06
Gary, yes, it's syncing that's the problem.  If I start the PC with the iPhone connected, iTunes will automatically start and sync, but since the upgrade, this process takes much longer than usual, and will often 'hang' half way through, with CPU usage ramped up to +90%.  iTunes will then refuse to close without killing it with Task Manager, and then it will either refuse to start again, or if it does start, it will refuse to connect to the iPhone.  The only cure seems to be a reboot, upon which, it will sometimes sync perfectly, but subsequent syncs will fail. 

Further, what's the thing "Downloading Safari safe browsing data" that always seems to come up now?  I don't even have Safari installed, so what's the data it's downloading, and to where is it downloading it?
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: TheMonkey on Mar 14, 2012, 11:35:55
Quote from: pctech on Mar 14, 2012, 11:07:26
Its a conspiracy, nake it as crummy as possible on Windows so you'll buy a Mac.  :evil:

No problem on XP by the way though I've not synced my Nano since I upgraded.





I think they do that with Safari also. Flawless on my Mac. Horrendous on my PC at work.  :bawl:
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Simon on Mar 14, 2012, 11:46:20
If you do a bit of Googling, it seems that Mac users aren't immune to iTunes problems either.  Most of what I could find last night, though, related to problems starting a while back.  Mine has been fine up to the last upgrade. 
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Gary on Mar 14, 2012, 15:48:37
Quote from: Simon on Mar 14, 2012, 11:17:06
Gary, yes, it's syncing that's the problem.  If I start the PC with the iPhone connected, iTunes will automatically start and sync, but since the upgrade, this process takes much longer than usual, and will often 'hang' half way through, with CPU usage ramped up to +90%.  iTunes will then refuse to close without killing it with Task Manager, and then it will either refuse to start again, or if it does start, it will refuse to connect to the iPhone.  The only cure seems to be a reboot, upon which, it will sometimes sync perfectly, but subsequent syncs will fail. 

Further, what's the thing "Downloading Safari safe browsing data" that always seems to come up now?  I don't even have Safari installed, so what's the data it's downloading, and to where is it downloading it?
Thats safe browsing info for Safari for your iPhone Simon  :)
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Steve on Mar 14, 2012, 17:24:21
You may well need to re install having removed all previous traces of iTunes
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Gary on Mar 14, 2012, 17:26:32
Or avoid starting the pc with the iPhone connected  :-\
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Simon on Mar 14, 2012, 18:37:02
I have already uninstalled and reinstalled iTunes, and I do have a complete eradication program for uninstalling, but I'm a bit nervous of it losing all of my music.  I know I can back it up separately, but 11Gb would take a bit of moving, so I was hoping to avoid it. 

I'll try starting the PC without the phone connected, and see if that helps.  Otherwise, does iTunes have a repair option?
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Gary on Mar 14, 2012, 19:57:50
Quote from: Simon on Mar 14, 2012, 18:37:02
I have already uninstalled and reinstalled iTunes, and I do have a complete eradication program for uninstalling, but I'm a bit nervous of it losing all of my music.  I know I can back it up separately, but 11Gb would take a bit of moving, so I was hoping to avoid it. 

I'll try starting the PC without the phone connected, and see if that helps.  Otherwise, does iTunes have a repair option?
Drag your iTunes music folder to an external hard drive, its that easy to keep safe, I have a backup on a 32GB memory stick as well as my Time Machine. Why do you start you pc with your iPhone connected, Simon?
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Simon on Mar 14, 2012, 20:04:00
Just for the sake of automation, Gary.  I can connect the iPhone, start the PC, then by the time I've made a cup of tea, it used to be all up and running, with the iPhone synced and charging.  That is, until the other day...
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Gary on Mar 14, 2012, 20:09:51
Quote from: Simon on Mar 14, 2012, 20:04:00
Just for the sake of automation, Gary.  I can connect the iPhone, start the PC, then by the time I've made a cup of tea, it used to be all up and running, with the iPhone synced and charging.  That is, until the other day...
I very raley connect my iPhone unless I update apps etc or need to download music, I charge the phone just using charger, do you have really short battery life? I get between 2-4 days pushing it depending on my usage.
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Simon on Mar 14, 2012, 21:56:04
I have to charge it at least once a day, Gary, but I do use it very heavily.  I do have other means to charge the phone, it's just convenient to plug it into the PC while I'm on it. 

I've just done a test where I didn't connect the iPhone until after the computer had started, and iTunes froze once again at the 'Preparing to sync' stage, and had to be killed with Task Manager.  Now, while iTunes will restart, it won't connect to the iPhone.  There's definitely something wrong somewhere, and it's very annoying!
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Simon on Mar 14, 2012, 23:12:25
It's possible that this may be resolved.  I finally thought to check in the error logs, and found multiple errors for the Bonjour service.  I uninstalled it, and iTunes, then reinstalled iTunes (and with it, Bonjour), and it seems to be running much better.  Time will tell...
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Simon on Mar 15, 2012, 23:10:36
It's still doing it!  :bawl:  It's definitely the Bonjour service that's screwing things up:

QuoteEvent Type:   Error
Event Source:   Bonjour Service
Event Category:   None
Event ID:   100
Date:      15/03/2012
Time:      20:49:09
User:      N/A
Computer:   **********
Description:
Client application bug: DNSServiceResolve(c4:2c:03:63:a5:ea@fe80::c62c:3ff:fe63:a5ea._apple-mobdev._tcp.local.) active for over two minutes. This places considerable burden on the network.

:hairpull:
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Steve on Mar 15, 2012, 23:17:13
Try disabling the bonjour service and then see if it helps.
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Simon on Mar 15, 2012, 23:26:26
I did, and it wouldn't sync.  ::)
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Steve on Mar 15, 2012, 23:41:21
At which point during sync is it crashing? I've seen suggestions that on ticking the box convert songs to 128kb/s can cause problems. Hopefully it won't be long before another release is out.
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Simon on Mar 15, 2012, 23:52:15
It seems to vary, but mostly on 'Preparing to sync', or, if it gets past that, it stalls syncing with Outlook calendar.  I was beginning to wonder if they'd made it incompatible with Office 2003, but if that was the case, I would have thought it would do it all the time, but after a second reboot, it seems to sync, albeit much slower than usual. 

The error message points the finger squarely at the Bonjour service, and the times of the errors are when it crashes, so it's got to be that. 
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: pctech on Mar 17, 2012, 17:43:00
Lets hope Apple fixes it but I'd not hold your breath.

Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Simon on Mar 17, 2012, 20:23:16
It's OK, I can hold my own, thanks.  ;D
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Lance on Mar 17, 2012, 23:10:48
No need for a right hand man then? ;D
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: zappaDPJ on Mar 17, 2012, 23:37:01
 :)x
Title: Re: iTunes 10.6
Post by: Simon on Mar 17, 2012, 23:54:32
:laugh: