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Title: Do routers degrade over time
Post by: woppy101 on Sep 16, 2011, 16:50:10
Do routers(2700hgv) degrade over time?I have just had a look and my 2wire has a manufacture date of 2006 and I'm just wondering if If could be that thats causing my problems
Many thanks for any replys
Title: Re: Do routers degrade over time
Post by: Rik on Sep 16, 2011, 16:59:06
All electronics change over time, in hi fi, initially for the better. If your speeds are down, though, it's more likely the line which has changed.
Title: Re: Do routers degrade over time
Post by: Simon on Sep 16, 2011, 19:49:37
The PSUs certainly seem to have a habit of dying off with the 2700s.
Title: Re: Do routers degrade over time
Post by: Technical Ben on Sep 17, 2011, 08:46:10
Quote from: Rik on Sep 16, 2011, 16:59:06
All electronics change over time, in hi fi, initially for the better. If your speeds are down, though, it's more likely the line which has changed.

I think Hi-Fi stories are myths and old wives tales. Sorry to be rocking the boat, but it's true. I'll admit defeat on the speakers themselves, it's possible the covers and cones become more flexible over time and so respond to the signal better. :)
Title: Re: Do routers degrade over time
Post by: Rik on Sep 17, 2011, 11:38:29
I've seen and heard the results on Meridian gear, Ben. They use milspec components, and even with these there is a burn-in period before the system reaches its sweet point. The advantage of milspec is that it tends to stay there a long time.
Title: Re: Do routers degrade over time
Post by: Technical Ben on Sep 17, 2011, 12:25:05
Well, I know it's all physical solder and stuff. But some of the things people do, like buying a gold plated cable when it's a digital signal source and output they are using.  :slap:
Title: Re: Do routers degrade over time
Post by: Rik on Sep 17, 2011, 12:33:14
Ah, but oxygen-free copper is worthwhile for speaker leads. :)
Title: Re: Do routers degrade over time
Post by: Technical Ben on Sep 17, 2011, 17:14:59
Could be. I think size makes more difference. You want big think cable. :D
Title: Re: Do routers degrade over time
Post by: Rik on Sep 17, 2011, 17:40:50
Size always matters, Ben.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Do routers degrade over time
Post by: FritzBox on Sep 17, 2011, 20:26:29
Quote from: Simon on Sep 16, 2011, 19:49:37
The PSUs certainly seem to have a habit of dying off with the 2700s.

Most definitely the weak link
Title: Re: Do routers degrade over time
Post by: esh on Sep 18, 2011, 14:41:16
They degrade over time in the sense that eventually some connections (ie. solder points) will go dry and break, but then more likely you will see the entire thing fail. I had a modem die fairly recently, but it was painfully obvious; I couldn't establish a connection for longer than 2 seconds. So, I doubt your signal-to-noise decreasing is the router's fault. Modern IC electronics tend to work - or not work. Increasing noise is almost certainly the line, in my opinion.