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Technical News & Discussion => Broadband, Internet & General Computer News & Discussion => Topic started by: Baz on Dec 02, 2010, 19:56:35

Title: bother
Post by: Baz on Dec 02, 2010, 19:56:35
any one had any drops today.and its slow as now,seems to be getting slower


router log...

Thu, 2010-12-02 01:26:06 - LCP down.
Thu, 2010-12-02 01:26:14 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2010-12-02 01:26:14 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2010-12-02 01:27:14 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2010-12-02 01:27:14 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2010-12-02 01:28:14 - Initialize LCP.......

.....blah de blah blah  until.........

Thu, 2010-12-02 02:42:22 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2010-12-02 02:43:22 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2010-12-02 02:43:22 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2010-12-02 02:44:22 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2010-12-02 02:44:22 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Title: Re: bother
Post by: Glenn on Dec 02, 2010, 20:01:37
No doubt exchange work, going by the timing Baz.
Title: Re: bother
Post by: Baz on Dec 02, 2010, 20:12:10
you think so?  how can I tell if at all
Title: Re: bother
Post by: Gary on Dec 02, 2010, 20:17:56
Quote from: Baz on Dec 02, 2010, 20:12:10
you think so?  how can I tell if at all

Did you contact Idnet? It may be something to do with this extreme weather, also there are a huge list of BT works that are meant to take place, not sure if that happening in this weather though Baz  :dunno: I would be inclined to disconnect ifs dropping that badly it will hammer your profile, have you checked your router, have you another one you could use, and have you tried in the master socket if you have one?
Title: Re: bother
Post by: Baz on Dec 02, 2010, 20:23:01
router stats are

ADSL Link            Downstream    Upstream
Connection Speed    6655 kbps    888 kbps
Line Attenuation    38.0 db           18.0 db
Noise Margin            14.4 db           11.0 db


havent contacted IDnet yet and cant get on BT tester for some reason but did a one about 6pm and got some daft result where actuall speed was higher than profile,which was lower than normal though,about 5500 if I remember right.

I'll try another one now.
Title: Re: bother
Post by: Baz on Dec 02, 2010, 20:28:51
ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz   its very slow


Download speedachieved during the test was - 6433 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speedsis 2000-7150 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :6655 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 888 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 5500 Kbps
The throughput of Best Efforts (BE) classes achieved during the test is - 20.39:23.21:56.4 (SBE:NBE:PBE)
These figures represent the ratio while sententiously passing Sub BE, Normal BE and Priority BE marked traffic.

The results of this test will vary depending on the way your ISP has decided to use these traffic classes.


Upload speed achieved during the test was - 740 Kbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 888 Kbps


pages just seem loading at a crawl.The forum is bad tonight
Title: Re: bother
Post by: Gary on Dec 02, 2010, 20:30:26
It does look like BT works as that's when they happen, at night and about 2am, if its been going on all day that would be a different matter  :)
Title: Re: bother
Post by: Baz on Dec 02, 2010, 20:32:53
no just seems to be tonight Gary.Other speed testers are slow too.

always knew the testers were not very reliable and ' BT will only look at results from their own site ' but seems even that now is hitty miss
Title: Re: bother
Post by: Gary on Dec 02, 2010, 20:39:54
Quote from: Baz on Dec 02, 2010, 20:28:51
ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz   its very slow


Download speedachieved during the test was - 6433 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speedsis 2000-7150 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :6655 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 888 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 5500 Kbps
The throughput of Best Efforts (BE) classes achieved during the test is - 20.39:23.21:56.4 (SBE:NBE:PBE)
These figures represent the ratio while sententiously passing Sub BE, Normal BE and Priority BE marked traffic.

The results of this test will vary depending on the way your ISP has decided to use these traffic classes.


Upload speed achieved during the test was - 740 Kbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 888 Kbps


pages just seem loading at a crawl.The forum is bad tonight
I am not sure on adsl2+ profiles Baz, its a bit odd that your download speed is greater than your profile ie your downloadable speed was 6443Kbps when your profile is 5500Kbps so I would ask Steve or someone. What are your pings like to www.idnet.net? You say tonight is slow but your dropouts were in the early hours, so how long did they go on for Baz? Your stats don't look that bad but snr is high, are you on a fixed profile on adsl2+?
Title: Re: bother
Post by: Baz on Dec 02, 2010, 20:48:30
Pinging www.idnet.net [212.69.36.10] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=59

Ping statistics for 212.69.36.10:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 34ms, Maximum = 36ms, Average = 35ms

Drops went from 01.26 to 02.44 I just edited the early post as it was long  :)

thinking back I seem to remember that the BT tester has been like that a while, or is it just me  :dunno:
Title: Re: bother
Post by: Gary on Dec 02, 2010, 21:07:28
Quote from: Baz on Dec 02, 2010, 20:48:30
Pinging www.idnet.net [212.69.36.10] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=59

Ping statistics for 212.69.36.10:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 34ms, Maximum = 36ms, Average = 35ms

Drops went from 01.26 to 02.44 I just edited the early post as it was long  :)

thinking back I seem to remember that the BT tester has been like that a while, or is it just me  :dunno:
It may be because of your profile Baz pings are higher than mine but not bad, I would see how it goes tonight, it could be exchange congestion Baz as your profile does not look bad, well not to me. Pings are a higher than mine but not that bad.
Title: Re: bother
Post by: Steve on Dec 02, 2010, 21:20:37
From what I can see you should not be having trouble surfing the Internet with the current BTspeedtest result and ping times. We've seen odd results with the BT speedtest with throughput higher than profile on adsl2+. In my mind the downstream sync is lower than it could be and the margin is elevated , are the error counts high as well?

Looking at the downstream sync of 6656 you've likely been placed on a banded profile by BT line management, I suggest you check with support tomorrow Baz as something's happened.

Title: Re: bother
Post by: Rik on Dec 03, 2010, 00:24:13
It's worth noting, Baz, that we seem to be having server problems with the forum, so we are seeing lags in pages loading, particularly after you've made a post.
Title: Re: bother
Post by: tehidyman on Dec 03, 2010, 11:41:48
Quote from: Baz on Dec 02, 2010, 20:12:10
you think so?  how can I tell if at all

This may help,  http://status.zensupport.co.uk/outages/

though I had this

Fri, 2010-12-03 00:05:24 - LCP down.
Fri, 2010-12-03 00:05:32 - Initialize LCP.
Fri, 2010-12-03 00:05:32 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Fri, 2010-12-03 00:06:33 - Initialize LCP.
Fri, 2010-12-03 00:06:33 - LCP is allowed to come up.

Every minute until

Fri, 2010-12-03 01:22:43 - Initialize LCP.
Fri, 2010-12-03 01:22:43 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Fri, 2010-12-03 01:23:19 - CHAP authentication success

and could find no mention of my exchange.
Title: Re: bother
Post by: Rik on Dec 03, 2010, 11:43:15
Bear in mind that ISP status pages will generally not report 21CN voice work, even though it takes down the ADSL.
Title: Re: bother
Post by: tehidyman on Dec 03, 2010, 12:25:05
Quote from: Rik on Dec 03, 2010, 11:43:15
Bear in mind that ISP status pages will generally not report 21CN voice work, even though it takes down the ADSL.
:thnks: