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Title: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Simon on Nov 05, 2010, 23:17:04
I think this is a PC issue, so I'll post it here.  An Admin can move it if they like.  ;D

An 'interesting' sync problem has developed on my computer.  I usually sync two phones simultaneously with Outlook, but this evening, my iPhone 3GS was 'not recognised' by Windows XP, and no amount of changing USB socket, rebooting, disconnecting, reconnecting, seemed to help.  

By chance, I swapped the USB port the iPhone is connected to, to the that my HTC HD2 was connected to, and hey presto, the iPhone synced, and all was working again.  However, when I reconnect the HD2 to any USB port, the iPhone disappears from iTunes, and when I reconnect, it's again, 'not recognised'.  How can this be?  The HTC HD2 syncs with ActiveSync, and the iPhone with iTunes.  I used to be able to have both phones connected, power up the PC, and both phones would sync without any trouble.  Anyone shed any light on this?  
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Rik on Nov 06, 2010, 11:10:27
Sorry, Simon, it's way outside my experience, but sounds like a device conflict. With both phones connected, do you see any yellow triangles if you go into device manager?
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Steve on Nov 06, 2010, 11:25:36
It may be that the usb device settings need to be deleted and refreshed again.
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Glenn on Nov 06, 2010, 11:33:04
That would be my first thought too, Steve. Just delete the usb hubs in the control panel, easier if you use a PS/2 mouse  ;)
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Simon on Nov 06, 2010, 11:49:19
Delete all of the USB hubs?  This is what I was thinking last night, but there seem to be no way of identifying the specific devices.   :-\
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Simon on Nov 06, 2010, 11:49:41
Quote from: Rik on Nov 06, 2010, 11:10:27
Sorry, Simon, it's way outside my experience, but sounds like a device conflict. With both phones connected, do you see any yellow triangles if you go into device manager?

Nothing in DM.
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Glenn on Nov 06, 2010, 12:09:55
Quote from: Simon on Nov 06, 2010, 11:49:19
Delete all of the USB hubs?  This is what I was thinking last night, but there seem to be no way of identifying the specific devices.   :-\

They will all be rediscovered and load the devices.
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Simon on Nov 06, 2010, 12:11:20
 :fingers: :laugh:
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Rik on Nov 06, 2010, 12:15:52
Sweaty palm moment... ;)
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Simon on Nov 06, 2010, 12:19:38
It's only the printer that slightly worries me, knowing how fickle they can be to set up sometimes.
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Rik on Nov 06, 2010, 12:38:28
It should be OK. E&OE. ;)
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Simon on Nov 06, 2010, 12:46:38
OK, I did actually find the one for Apple, and also the one for the Windows phone, so I uninstalled both of them and rebooted.  The iPhone reinstalled, and synced, but as soon as I connect the Windows phone, the iPhone disconnects from iTunes.   :bawl:
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Glenn on Nov 06, 2010, 12:50:26
What happens if you connect the Windows phone first?
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Rik on Nov 06, 2010, 12:50:34
They've got to be fighting over some common resource. Can you recall any new software, updates etc that you applied just before the problem started?
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Simon on Nov 06, 2010, 12:52:23
Not that I can recall.  It has worked since I jailbroke the iPhone, so I don't think it's that either.  Just going to try Glenn's idea, then will reinstall iTunes.
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Rik on Nov 06, 2010, 12:52:55
Computers am a pain. :(
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Simon on Nov 06, 2010, 13:01:10
If I install the Windows device first, I get 'Device not recognised' when I connect the iPhone.
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Simon on Nov 06, 2010, 13:02:13
Is the the USB Root Hubs or the USB Host Controllers in the Device Manager I need to uninstall?
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Glenn on Nov 06, 2010, 13:03:37
I would do the lot, but if you use a USB mouse, you delete it's driver mid operation  :D
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Rik on Nov 06, 2010, 13:32:04
Are they plugged into a hub or the computer, Simon. If the former, it might be worth trying the latter.
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Steve on Nov 06, 2010, 13:45:23
Certainly the iPhone seems a bit picky sometimes on the Mac
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Simon on Nov 06, 2010, 14:01:38
Both direct into the computer.
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Gary on Nov 06, 2010, 14:02:39
Maybe just use one phone  ;)  :out: I would go for what Steve has said, it may be an IRQ conflict if both devices are sharing the same IRQ maybe?
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Simon on Nov 06, 2010, 14:04:44
Quote from: Gary on Nov 06, 2010, 14:02:39
maybe just use one phone  ;)  :out:

That's no fun.  ;)

QuoteI would go for what Steve has said, it may be an IRQ conflict if both devices are sharing the same IRQ maybe?

You mean, delete all the USB devices, Gary?
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Steve on Nov 06, 2010, 14:05:34
Windows 7 would probably be happier. :whistle:
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Gary on Nov 06, 2010, 14:08:55
Quote from: Simon on Nov 06, 2010, 14:04:44
That's no fun.  ;)

You mean, delete all the USB devices, Gary?

I would try that but I take no responsibility for what happens, google IRQ conflicts Simon, it may give you a better view of whats happening.
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Glenn on Nov 06, 2010, 14:10:51
And available from £38 too  ;D  http://www.software4students.co.uk/Windows_7-software.aspx
Quote from: Steve on Nov 06, 2010, 14:05:34
Windows 7 would probably be happier. :whistle:
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Rik on Nov 06, 2010, 15:49:50
 ;D
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: armadillo on Nov 06, 2010, 20:02:07
Quote from: Rik on Nov 06, 2010, 12:15:52
Sweaty palm moment... ;)

Acronis True Image is the best value single piece of software I have ever bought. Mind you, the first time you tell it to delete your entire hard drive before restore is a mega sweaty palm moment. I have done it so many times now that I have lost count. I have my OS (and programs) on a disk all on its own so I can recover with True Image, whatever horrors I have inflicted on Windows, in about five minutes.
Title: Re: Phone Sync Problem
Post by: Rik on Nov 07, 2010, 10:25:21
I'm with you there, but I always seem to end up holding my breath until I've re-booted. :)