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Title: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: cavillas on Oct 30, 2010, 17:44:52
I thought that this web page from BT might be of some help for Idnetters.BT Exchange Faults (http://btbusiness.custhelp.com/app/service_status_consumer/ss_cat/2468,2470) ;D
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Glenn on Oct 30, 2010, 17:52:31
 :thumb: Alf.
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: .Griff. on Oct 30, 2010, 18:11:04
"Problem in the North of England, Scotland and Northern Ireland area"

It then lists loads of area codes of which some are nowhere near the North of England, Scotland or NI ?!?!?!?
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: pctech on Oct 30, 2010, 18:13:26
Depends if the traffic is routed through the affected nodes Griff as BT routing is bizarre.

Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: .Griff. on Oct 30, 2010, 18:15:46
Quote from: pctech on Oct 30, 2010, 18:13:26
Depends if the traffic is routed through the affected nodes Griff as BT routing is bizarre.



I think they've simply listed every single area code in the UK. Plymouth (01752) is listed as affected for example and you can't physically get much further away from Scotland, NI and North England than that.
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: DorsetBoy on Oct 30, 2010, 18:16:49
Thought the status pages had been posted here previously http://statuspages.co.uk/isps.asp
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Ted on Oct 30, 2010, 18:16:55
Quote from: cavillas on Oct 30, 2010, 17:44:52
I thought that this web page from BT might be of some help for Idnetters.BT Exchange Faults (http://btbusiness.custhelp.com/app/service_status_consumer/ss_cat/2468,2470) ;D

Yep, I'm on the list. Thanks, Alf.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Steve on Oct 30, 2010, 18:27:37
It's an odd list with a greater scatter of STD codes throughout the country ,
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Rik on Oct 31, 2010, 12:23:55
BT's routing is bizarre. My ADSL Max connection routes via West Drayton, my WBC though Milton Keynes.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Technical Ben on Jan 22, 2011, 11:58:06
Quote from: Rik on Oct 31, 2010, 12:23:55
BT's routing is bizarre. My ADSL Max connection routes via West Drayton, my WBC though Milton Keynes.  :dunno:
Must be to avoid the congestion charge.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Rik on Jan 22, 2011, 12:00:10
 ;D
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: pctech on Jan 22, 2011, 15:04:08
Just how many broadband connections do you have Rik?

Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Rik on Jan 22, 2011, 15:43:17
Just the two, Mitch.
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Glenn on Jan 22, 2011, 15:44:09
At the moment
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: pctech on Jan 22, 2011, 15:49:07
Quote from: Rik on Jan 22, 2011, 15:43:17
Just the two, Mitch.

Both connected to IDNet or one to a different ISP for resiliency?

Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Rik on Jan 22, 2011, 15:52:26
Both IDNet, but one 20CN and one 21CN, which - thanks to BT's weird and wonderful planning - gives resiliency.
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Tacitus on Jan 22, 2011, 16:01:33
Quote from: Rik on Jan 22, 2011, 15:52:26
Both IDNet, but one 20CN and one 21CN, which - thanks to BT's weird and wonderful planning - gives resiliency.

A bit OT but since you have two lines.....   :)  How does bonding work?  For example, must you have two lines dedicated to broadband or can one be broadband only and the other broadband plus phone?

How does it work when you get to the router?  Is there a special multiplexer or is the combination done via a special modem?

Is the cost just 2X the broadband on one line such as (say) each line would have (say) home max on it so the cost would be £51/month or is there an extra for the cost of the bonding.

Just curious  ;D

Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Technical Ben on Jan 22, 2011, 16:10:52
For home use, is there really a need for 2? I suppose it's like a hobby right? Such as my friend with 2 TVRs when one is more than enough.  ;D
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Rik on Jan 22, 2011, 16:12:23
Quote from: Tacitus on Jan 22, 2011, 16:01:33
A bit OT but since you have two lines.....   :)  How does bonding work?  For example, must you have two lines dedicated to broadband or can one be broadband only and the other broadband plus phone?

How does it work when you get to the router?  Is there a special multiplexer or is the combination done via a special modem?

Is the cost just 2X the broadband on one line such as (say) each line would have (say) home max on it so the cost would be £51/month or is there an extra for the cost of the bonding.

Just curious  ;D



No answers to any of those, Tac. AFAIK, IDNet don't support bonding. You need a special router, but I don't see why the lines couldn't be used for voice as well, as that's filtered out of the signal.
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Rik on Jan 22, 2011, 16:12:48
Quote from: Technical Ben on Jan 22, 2011, 16:10:52
For home use, is there really a need for 2? I suppose it's like a hobby right? Such as my friend with 2 TVRs when one is more than enough.  ;D

It allows me to keep my post count up, Ben. ;D
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Steve on Jan 22, 2011, 16:27:52
Dual adsl is either used for backup redundancy or bonding, you need a pair of adsl modems and something like the Firebrick 2700 or a Draytek 2820 and an additional modem to provide the load balancing. I guess businesses  are looking for the increased upload which bonding offers and comparing it to the cost of a leased line. AAISP have some details
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: pctech on Jan 22, 2011, 16:50:56
To save you searchiong , here it is http://www.aaisp.net.uk/kb-broadband-bonding.html

Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Glenn on Jan 22, 2011, 17:16:26
Build your own here http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Multi_WAN_/_Load_Balancing
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Tacitus on Jan 22, 2011, 17:58:05
Quote from: Rik on Jan 22, 2011, 16:12:48
It allows me to keep my post count up, Ben. ;D

One for each hand...   :)  Thanks for the info on bonding - I just assumed it's something that iDNet would do.  Not that I want to pay £50/month for the privilege  ;D

Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Tacitus on Jan 22, 2011, 17:59:05
Quote from: pctech on Jan 22, 2011, 16:50:56
To save you searchiong , here it is http://www.aaisp.net.uk/kb-broadband-bonding.html

Thanks - never thought of looking on AAISP's site....

Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: pctech on Jan 22, 2011, 18:28:29
NP Tac
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Rik on Jan 23, 2011, 11:35:28
Quote from: Tacitus on Jan 22, 2011, 17:58:05
Thanks for the info on bonding - I just assumed it's something that iDNet would do.  Not that I want to pay £50/month for the privilege  ;D

Probably could do if there was sufficient demand.

Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: pctech on Jan 23, 2011, 12:50:07
I reckon when Fibre to the premises becomes more widespread it will of course negate the need for bonding.

Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Rik on Jan 23, 2011, 12:56:29
It will, Mitch, I see banding as very much a 20CN product.
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: pctech on Jan 23, 2011, 13:20:53
When fibre does become ubiquitous it'll be interesting to the see the effects on ISP's prices as in theory their costs should come down as it lower maintenance.

Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Rik on Jan 23, 2011, 13:29:43
Though that depends on BT...
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Glenn on Jan 23, 2011, 13:34:24
With a customer base larger than Virgin, BT's BB/phone package prices should undercut Virgin for a similar product.
Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: pctech on Jan 23, 2011, 15:02:49
You'd have thought so wouldn't you and that fibre would have been rolled out years ago.

Title: Re: Check BT Exchange Faults
Post by: Rik on May 01, 2011, 12:59:03
To summarise, it would be a great help if you told us which part of the country you are in. Someone losing their service in NE Scotland is likely to have a different problem to someone in Cornwall, and unless we know where you are, we can't look for BT issue reports.

It doesn't have to be too specific, though if you live in a large town, it will obviously be more helpful to indicate which part of the town than to just name the town. Best of all, if you can identify your exchange for us, we have more chance of finding information to help you.

Thanks.