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Title: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Simon on Oct 26, 2010, 21:58:32
BT says consumers and online services might need to upgrade their hardware if end users are to fully benefit from next-generation superfast broadband.

Showing off a 100Mbits/sec, Fibre to the Premises (FTTP) trial in Milton Keynes, BT representatives and engineers explained that pilot customers were sometimes confused when the new fibre connections appeared to be delivering speeds below expectations.

BT said that these next-generation connections - not the standard Fibre to the Cabinet or copper services rolled out to most users - are so fast that the bottleneck is not always on the network but could be in consumer hardware.

Read more: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/broadband/362245/bt-superfast-broadband-held-back-by-home-tech
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: esh on Oct 26, 2010, 22:08:56
People who don't really know the full technical details don't experience full potential of technology!? News at 11! Mostly this is due to the extremely cheap influx of home 'routers' since 2000 that have very weak processors but have done the job fine. But short of your router, what is there to truly hold it back? Is anyone still using 10M grade ethernet cable? Really? I doubt it (apart from where the last place I worked at, cough). Hard drives? They'll do 300Mbit/sec fairly easily unless it's a bottom end drive from a decade ago.

Or you certainly won't experience 100Mbit with the packet loss a few FTTC people here have had...
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Steve on Oct 26, 2010, 22:10:20
Still not moving to MK even though my FTTC has been put back 6 months . >:D
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Simon on Oct 26, 2010, 22:14:07
There's a place there that does great food!  ;)
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Steve on Oct 26, 2010, 22:15:45
You mean that there is ever some left over? Somehow I doubt it. >:D
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Simon on Oct 26, 2010, 22:22:17
 ;D
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Glenn on Oct 26, 2010, 22:25:57
Simon was talking about the chippy, Mitch recommended.  ;D
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Lance on Oct 26, 2010, 23:27:53
In answer to your question, esh, we still have loads of 10mb switches at work. Oddly enough, that is BT's fault as they didn't complete the network infrastructure update they were meant to when managing our IT.
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: esh on Oct 27, 2010, 09:15:53
10M switches? Fantastic. Do they have coaxial ports as well?
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Rik on Oct 27, 2010, 09:19:27
Quote from: Steve on Oct 26, 2010, 22:15:45
You mean that there is ever some left over? Somehow I doubt it. >:D

We always make sure there's enough if we know in advance. ;D
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Rik on Oct 27, 2010, 09:19:46
Quote from: Glenn on Oct 26, 2010, 22:25:57
Simon was talking about the chippy, Mitch recommended.  ;D

:nana: ;D
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Rik on Oct 27, 2010, 09:20:37
We need gigabit routers with serious amounts of processing power...
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: esh on Oct 27, 2010, 09:23:45
Quad core routers with liquid nitrogen cooling! Where does it end!?
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Rik on Oct 27, 2010, 09:25:06
When we all have air-conditioned equipment rooms. ;)
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Lance on Oct 27, 2010, 13:20:30
Quote from: esh on Oct 27, 2010, 09:15:53
10M switches? Fantastic. Do they have coaxial ports as well?

Fortunately not. Now we've brought IT back in house, we are spending approx £500k on upgrading all of the lan infrastructure.
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Rik on Oct 27, 2010, 16:43:43
So now you know where your council tax goes, folks. ;)
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: esh on Oct 27, 2010, 20:54:22
I suggest you upgrade to ....11M switches and pocket the rest of the cash!
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Technical Ben on Oct 28, 2010, 21:31:18
Quote from: esh on Oct 27, 2010, 20:54:22
I suggest you upgrade to ....11M switches and pocket the rest of the cash!
No, upgrade to full 100mb or gigabit ones. Then limit it to 11mb, and get them to pay you to upgrade it again to 12mb in a few weeks. They will see real world increases too. :thumb:
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Bill on Oct 28, 2010, 23:02:28
Quote from: Technical Ben on Oct 28, 2010, 21:31:18
No, upgrade to full 100mb or gigabit ones. Then limit it to 11mb, and get them to pay you to upgrade it again to 12mb in a few weeks. They will see real world increases too. :thumb:

You sound like me when I was in electronics/software design... produce what you know the customer actually needs, then limit it to what he asked for.

That way it's much easier to upgrade when they realise their mistakes ;D
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Technical Ben on Oct 29, 2010, 13:21:34
Almost the opposite of BT... Tell the customer they need 100mb broadband, deliver 1mb...  :bawl:
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Rik on Oct 29, 2010, 16:02:24
That much?  :o
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: pctech on Oct 29, 2010, 17:18:30
Did you know that the Amsterdam Internet Exchange which IDNet is connncted to I believe has integrated Glimmerglass photonic switches into its network.

http://ams-ix.net/infrastructure-detail/

http://www.glimmerglass.com
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Rik on Oct 29, 2010, 17:22:02
No. :) I do now though, thanks.  :thumb:
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: pctech on Oct 29, 2010, 17:42:47
Need to persaude IDNet to put a few in but probably won't be cheap.

Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Rik on Oct 29, 2010, 17:45:38
Will you ask or shall I? ;D
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: pctech on Oct 29, 2010, 17:54:31
Prob better coming from you.

;D
Title: Re: BT: superfast broadband held back by home tech
Post by: Rik on Oct 29, 2010, 17:57:34
 :dig: ;D