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Title: Exchange congestion?
Post by: psp83 on Oct 04, 2010, 15:38:07
I've noticed that during the day (around this time) my ping rises and I get packet lose. Do you think its a busy exchange?

(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share-thumb/102722691c52729e877c2adcbc3130e3-04-10-2010.png) (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/102722691c52729e877c2adcbc3130e3-04-10-2010.html)
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: zappaDPJ on Oct 04, 2010, 15:50:33
Personally I'd say not as my tbb monitor reflects yours quite closely. There's congestion somewhere but it seems to be effecting quite a few of us which points to something other than a local issue I would say.

(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share-thumb/ddaa526f0b434725778dabed9d8c720d-04-10-2010.png) (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/ddaa526f0b434725778dabed9d8c720d-04-10-2010.html)
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: .Griff. on Oct 04, 2010, 15:52:24
What part of the country are you both in?
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: zappaDPJ on Oct 04, 2010, 15:53:50
North London.
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: Ray on Oct 04, 2010, 15:58:53
I'm not seeing anything like that on my graph, I'm in south Leicestershire.

(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share-thumb/56b1b043c4812fd0544323a5740d6099-04-10-2010.png) (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/56b1b043c4812fd0544323a5740d6099-04-10-2010.html)
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: Lance on Oct 04, 2010, 16:02:51
Quote from: psp83 on Oct 04, 2010, 15:38:07
I've noticed that during the day (around this time) my ping rises and I get packet lose. Do you think its a busy exchange?


It is of couse, the time all the school kids get home and log onto facebook.
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: .Griff. on Oct 04, 2010, 16:03:00
Might as well add mine for comparison purposes -

(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share-thumb/76f4562de976c46054e6626496abcda3.png) (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/76f4562de976c46054e6626496abcda3.html)
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: Bill on Oct 04, 2010, 16:12:18
Ditto.

(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share-thumb/f4bbc7fab43d625f24d0bf4fd4f60a9a-04-10-2010.png) (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/f4bbc7fab43d625f24d0bf4fd4f60a9a-04-10-2010.html)


(South Oxfordshire)
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: esh on Oct 04, 2010, 16:16:01
I would say it's congestion. My exchange has been gradually getting worse. I have to wonder if upgrading a connection is worthwhile when the exchange is clearly stuffed already.
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: zappaDPJ on Oct 04, 2010, 16:21:53
I didn't think Paul lived anywhere near my location but perhaps he does. We do seem to be the only ones affected.
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: .Griff. on Oct 04, 2010, 16:26:24
Quote from: zappaDPJ on Oct 04, 2010, 16:21:53
I didn't think Paul lived anywhere near my location but perhaps he does. We do seem to be the only ones affected.

Just noticed he's somewhere in Wiltshire.
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: zappaDPJ on Oct 04, 2010, 16:45:59
That's what I recall which is quite a distance from me. Very odd.
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: psp83 on Oct 04, 2010, 16:47:17
I live in Devizes, Wiltshire.

It always starts around 1pm(ish) & only since the upgrade IDnet done a few weeks ago, before I used to have stable pings and hardly any packet lose.
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: psp83 on Oct 04, 2010, 16:54:34
I spose this week will be worse with the commonwealth games on & people streaming it at work etc.
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: sof2er on Oct 04, 2010, 17:59:21
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share-thumb/ff1d69732d1703271905554d06a9f90f.png) (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/ff1d69732d1703271905554d06a9f90f.html)

Packetloss seems to be related somewhere with IDNet and not exchange.


This is how the packetloss should be: http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/59bbf82bef3864f0dce09a7383b6dfa1.html
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: psp83 on Oct 04, 2010, 18:14:23
I would love to have my packet lose back like that..

I'm finding the packet lose is causing the lag on streaming videos when watching on justin.tv.

I can never watch JTV between midnight and 2am, when everyone starts downloading and the packet lose kicks in :(

I have been doing tests lately and it does seem to be the packet lose, I've been watching streams when there is no packet lose and its fine but as soon as the packet lose comes the streams become laggy and stutter every few secs. I normally start the stream around 11 - 11:30pm, its fine then but as soon as midnight comes that's when it plays up.

But as you can see by my graph, its starting to get bad during the day aswell and its not just me.

Perhaps I should email IDnet the link to this post?
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: pctech on Oct 04, 2010, 18:21:36
You've probably got some monster bandwidth hogs nearby Paul.

Might be worth while seeing if support can get you moved to a less congested Virtual Path?

Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: Lance on Oct 04, 2010, 18:26:01
It certainly wouldn't hurt flagging it up to support, Paul.
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: Rik on Oct 05, 2010, 16:56:55
The other possibility being the vagaries of 21CN and network points that can affect large numbers of geographically spread customers, one, indeed, which can affect everyone. :(
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: TomSG on Oct 06, 2010, 14:15:22
Getting exactly the same here. (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share-large/350a0a8a1a3097f94011d381ce2b7e50.png)


Also I get a perfect 5.5mb during the day and early hours of the morning, however at night it sometimes slows down to as little as 2mb and fluctuates wildly, also getting packet loss in online games. Can see the packet loss occuring every night from 7-12.
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: upholsterman on Oct 06, 2010, 21:50:03
hello everyone i live in herefordshire and i'm suffering the same problem as tomsg. throughout the day i get 6.3mb come the evening it fluctuates wildly down as low as 1.1mb,it only started this a few week's ago.                 
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: Steve on Oct 06, 2010, 22:08:20
 :welcome: :karma:

Give support a call if you've not already done so,they are the only ones who will know the current exchange status.
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: Ray on Oct 06, 2010, 22:15:55
 :welc: :karma:
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: Simon on Oct 06, 2010, 23:31:49
:welc: :karma:
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: Rik on Oct 07, 2010, 14:50:15
What Steve said. :) :welc: :karma:
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: upholsterman on Oct 07, 2010, 18:23:53
Thank you all for such a warm welcome! I will contact support as soon as i can. is it possible for exchange congestion to suddenly happen in such a short period of time i thought it would be more gradual                             
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: Rik on Oct 07, 2010, 18:26:44
No, it's almost a digital process, it's happily within capacity one days and a few new customers or increased bandwidth demands (as happen with faster connections) and it's congested. Then we have to wait for BT to first admit, then fix it.
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: esh on Oct 07, 2010, 21:48:18
They do seem to be better at admitting it these days (rather than go through the endless loop of send engineer, engineer reports OK, fault discarded).
Title: Re: Exchange congestion?
Post by: Rik on Oct 08, 2010, 14:53:43
True, though not necessarily faster. ;)