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Title: Did they do it?
Post by: Niall on Sep 10, 2010, 10:18:08
My connection was utter pants at 7am this morning. The only two webpages I could load were the facebook and natwest login pages, but couldnt actual get beyond them. I had to reboot the router 4 times before I could see the rest of the web.

I haven't got time to check status pages as I'm about to run out of time on my break in work!
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 10:21:40
One of the new routers fell over, Niall.
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: cavillas on Sep 10, 2010, 10:22:56
It seems my router went down this morning, sometime.  Perhaps BT have actually done the work but for the 9th-10th instead of 8th-9th. ;D  I now seem to have a far quicker repsponse and connection.  Sorry if I've pinched everyone elses connections. :whistle:
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Technical Ben on Sep 10, 2010, 10:23:58
Quote from: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 10:21:40
One of the new routers fell over, Niall.

Who walked into it then?!  :getout:
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 10:25:04
Simon shouldn't keep them next to his bed, we keep telling him. ;D
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Bill on Sep 10, 2010, 10:38:40
There's some odd routing going on somewhere... before the weekend problems my BQM trace showed essentially a nice constant ping time. Then it started varying quite a lot, as though I was on a more congested route somewhere. Then on Wednesday (when IDNet were "tweaking" the routers) it abruptly got a lot better, and after this morning's outage it looks as though it might be back to where it was before.

Most odd, but as it's getting better each time I'm not complaining ;D
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: esh on Sep 10, 2010, 10:40:10
Yep, it was messed up for a little while here this morning too, 7:20 to 7:55 according to the server.
If anyone could enlighten me, would I expect my ADSL speed to decrease regarding these drops? I've had quite a few this week now which is pretty unusual for me I have to say so I really don't have a clue. My connection sync speed hasn't dropped but I am guessing this is like ethernet, it just agrees the protocol at 8128kbps but doesn't mean you'll actually get it.
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 10:43:44
It shouldn't have affected your speed, sync should not have gone down.
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: esh on Sep 10, 2010, 11:13:53
No MSN connection and also Windows Update can't connect to get updates on systems... Microsoft or routing?
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: aurichie on Sep 10, 2010, 11:15:42
I'm having connection problems hitting sites and servers in the US. Same thing happened earlier this morning between 07:30 and 08:30. The same sites and servers work on my Zen connection from the same exchange.
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: esh on Sep 10, 2010, 11:16:25
Thanks, aurichie.
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 11:27:04
Simon's working on the router now.
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: esh on Sep 10, 2010, 11:33:53
Yeah, stuff is coming back. Cheers, Rik.

It's not a Netgear is it?  :po:
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 11:39:35
No, it's a Belkin.  :evil:
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: esh on Sep 10, 2010, 11:52:12
Oh that's easy then. Just shake it until it starts working again. I remember using some old Belkin wireless thing in America but it would only work properly if someone stood beside it. We considered drawing straws each day...
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 11:59:54
In charcoal or pencil?  ;)
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: pctech on Sep 10, 2010, 12:44:56
Out of pure geek interest, what routers are they using?

Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 12:45:39
Cisco afaik, Mitch.
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: klipp on Sep 10, 2010, 12:46:49
Quote from: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 11:39:35
No, it's a Belkin.  :evil:

* shudders at the mere mention of Belkin *
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: esh on Sep 10, 2010, 12:52:06
I guess Cisco are the safe bet. I don't know who else make routers/switches at that kind of level. HP maybe? I think our institution uses 'extreme networks', but I have no experience with any of these.. mostly because the products are an ungodly price.
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 12:52:28
Quote from: klipp on Sep 10, 2010, 12:46:49
* shudders at the mere mention of Belkin *

;D You are not alone.
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: pctech on Sep 10, 2010, 12:56:26
HP specialise in switches but now own 3Com who make routers.

Cisco are supposed to be the gold standard but I think they have been pipped in terms of processing speed by Force10, Extreme and Juniper.

Where I work they have just swapped Foundry Networks (now owned by Brocade) for a couple of large Cisco 6509 routers and HP Procurve switches to serve the endpoints.
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 12:59:35
I'm now totally lost, of course. ;)
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: pctech on Sep 10, 2010, 13:02:25
Its getting a bit like the AMD vs Intel debate used to be but this time its how many millions of packets can a router process a second.

It has of course been driven by the bankers and science community.

Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 13:03:23
You did say bankers, didn't you?  :evil:
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: pctech on Sep 10, 2010, 13:13:54
Yes as they demand very quick routing when trading.

Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 15:30:11
Bigger bonuses, eh? ;)
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: pctech on Sep 10, 2010, 17:51:44
Its done with split second timing, had to sell some shares I had last year and when they quote a price its only valid for 10 seconds.

Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 17:56:39
Fastest finger first.
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: pctech on Sep 10, 2010, 18:02:00
Did it by phone and their connection failed so they couldn't tell me for three days whether the trade was successful or not.

Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 18:04:43
Drag. Did it?
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: pctech on Sep 10, 2010, 18:41:09
Was a right pain as was trying to raise some funds to help my parents get the boiler replaced after BG declared our 23 year old one unsafe and unrepairable and shut the gas supply off.
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 18:44:08
Good old BG. :(
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: pctech on Sep 10, 2010, 18:50:34
Suppose it was better than getting gassed though, I was wanting to get it replaced for a few years as it used to make a hell of a racket.

Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 18:51:26
A good kettling did no-one any harm. :)
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: pctech on Sep 10, 2010, 18:57:32
 ;D

New one is much quieter thank goodness although we had to call them out when we had that severe cold weather as the condensate drain pipe froze.

Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 18:59:55
Very common problem. :(
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: pctech on Sep 10, 2010, 19:02:08
Apparently so as the BG engineer said when he came, he ended up sawing the pipe off and replacing it.
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 19:04:26
I've heard that before.
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: pctech on Sep 10, 2010, 20:17:33
deleted wrong thread
Title: Re: Did they do it?
Post by: Rik on Sep 10, 2010, 20:27:18
It's usually me that deletes threads, Mitch. ;D