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Title: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: kinmel on Aug 23, 2010, 22:27:11

Opened up my main PC today to add another HDD and noticed all the fans were full of fluff.

Switched it off at the double pole switch, got the vacuum cleaner out and gave it all a thorough clean out.

When I re-booted I got the dreaded acoustic  BIOS message for a faulty graphics card and swapping it out proved that I have fried it  :bawl:

First time I have managed to do that, I must have just been lucky in the past.

In Manchester tomorrow, so a chance to give Scan another £120 !!!!!!
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Steve on Aug 23, 2010, 22:34:28
Oh dear

I tend to use a hairdryer for that and leave someone else to vac and dust the room >:D
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: zappaDPJ on Aug 23, 2010, 22:43:52
That rings a rather nasty bell. I used the vacuum to clean out my last PC and when I switched it back on there was a huge bang and a bad smell of electrical burning that hung around the case for weeks. Soemthing in the PSU had exploded and taken out just about every component.
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Simon on Aug 23, 2010, 23:05:04
Bad luck Alan, and Zap.  I've always been slightly paranoid about static, and if I have to open my case, I use a wrist strap, and place the case on a (dry!) bath towel.  I don't know if this helps, of whether I've just been lucky, but I haven't managed to fry anything yet, and usually, I'm like a Van de Graaff generator, especially when getting out of the car!
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Glenn on Aug 24, 2010, 08:44:06
http://www.build-your-own-cheap-computer.com/static-electricity.html
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: faircot on Aug 24, 2010, 09:17:11
Quote from: kinmel on Aug 23, 2010, 22:27:11

Switched it off at the double pole switch, got the vacuum cleaner out and gave it all a thorough clean out.

Been there. First time I decided to spring clean the dog hair from my PC, I used a cheap artificial-fibre paint brush to dislodge the dust from the motherboard and all the nooks and crannies before getting Henry to suck out the crud. Big mistake, because I never could discover what I had killed. These days I'm much more cautious and always leave the mains lead connected when I open the case, and keep away from the motherboard.
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: mrapoc on Aug 24, 2010, 10:50:37
i nowadays use either a paintbrush to brush away dust or/and use a can of compressed air (expensive stuff!)
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Baz on Aug 24, 2010, 10:56:27
 :o :o  have done that loads of times and never zapped any thing.How does using a vacuum cause that.

will have to be more careful now then  :)
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Rik on Aug 24, 2010, 11:05:51
The only thing I can think of, Baz, is plastic components generating static.
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Baz on Aug 24, 2010, 11:06:56
ah yeah  of course
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Glenn on Aug 24, 2010, 11:13:55
The movement of the air molecules hitting each other causes static to build up, in the same way as a thunder storm generates lightning.
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Rik on Aug 24, 2010, 11:15:32
An even better explanation.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Baz on Aug 24, 2010, 11:39:55
but you will get air molecule movement with any thing you use surely.  why so bad with a vacuum
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Rik on Aug 24, 2010, 11:44:38
I'll let Glenn explain.  :evil:
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Baz on Aug 24, 2010, 11:46:42
 ;D  yes it could get a tad confusing from here on
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Rik on Aug 24, 2010, 11:47:00
 ;D
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Glenn on Aug 24, 2010, 12:01:31
http://www.sciencemadesimple.com/static.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Static_electricity
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Baz on Aug 24, 2010, 12:54:24
chicken Glenn    :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Glenn on Aug 24, 2010, 12:59:07
Why do the work again, when someone has done it far better than I could.
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: vitriol on Aug 24, 2010, 17:47:05
I've always used compressed air, no problems so far.  I think the last tin I bought was £6.
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Rik on Aug 24, 2010, 17:48:58
If you have a local Costco, they do multipacks which work out at £4/can.
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Niall on Aug 24, 2010, 18:49:45
I wouldn't use a hoover to clean the PC as it's known to do this sort of thing. I also wouldn't use compressed air as that can contain small amounts of water.

I actually blow out any loose dust, then take out each component to give me room to wipe out the case. I use an old sock to clean the fans :D I've also got a little brush that came with a set of hair graders that I use to clean the graphics card and sound card with.
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Technical Ben on Aug 24, 2010, 22:30:55
Do not use a vacuum cleaner! Oh, too late. Never use one. If there is dust, push it away. Or use a old tooth brush and gently brush it a side (don't scrub it!). Should clean up easy. If you don't let it build up in the first place it's not as bad.
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: kinmel on Aug 24, 2010, 22:53:37
Yet more experience paid for in cash, better than paying with pain.

Anyway I never let a mistake become a mis-fortune and since I HAD to buy a new graphics card, I took the opportunity to upgrade without a guilty conscience  :thumb:

p.s.   Scan's sales area is being modernised at the moment and it is becoming a very superior establishment.  In the 20 years I have been using them they have always impressed me with their impeccable service and knowledge, all combined with business skills matched by very few companies.  You feel honoured to be allowed to spend money there.
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Technical Ben on Aug 24, 2010, 23:34:49
What card did they recommend then? :D
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: kinmel on Aug 25, 2010, 08:02:18

My old one was an HD4850, so the upgrade had to be a   XFX HD5770 (http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1GB-XFX-HD-5770-PCI-E-21-4800MHz-GDDR5-GPU-850MHz-800-Cores-DP-DVI-HDMI)   :thumb:
Title: Re: Expensive stuff, static.
Post by: Technical Ben on Aug 25, 2010, 10:30:14
Nice. Pity the old one died, else I'd buy it as a second to mine. The 5770 is on par. Slightly slower in the clock speeds, but makes up with better architecture. (or visa versa, I forget which).
Basically, the 4850 is close to the top of the range on last years model, and the 5770 is mid range of this years model. But the performance increase this year makes up for it.