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Title: General Router Question
Post by: Technical Ben on Aug 04, 2010, 16:58:25
Got a NetGear DG834Gv5. Works fine. But I just noticed, on the logs, all the timestamps are for 2003. How do I set a date/time on this thing, as it's confusing and difficult to tract times of disconnects. I'm getting a couple lately after the major outage at the exchange last month. So I want to make a note of when it is.
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Rik on Aug 04, 2010, 17:03:14
You should have a page in the set up menus that allows you to set the time and/or chose to use an NTP server to keep it correct automatically, Ben.
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Technical Ben on Aug 04, 2010, 17:15:34
EEks. Well, this is stupid. I have "accept the current time" which is wrong, as there is no option to set an ACTUAL time.  :slap:
Or use a NTP server, but I can use IP address only, and I only know how to use the web addresses etc.  :shake:
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Glenn on Aug 04, 2010, 17:17:00
Ping the web address, it will give you the IP
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Rik on Aug 04, 2010, 17:17:14
Try 139.143.5.31, Ben, it's one of the NPL time servers.
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Technical Ben on Aug 04, 2010, 17:23:40
Thanks, gone with a NIST one, as they list the IP as well. It was simpler, and more obvious on the O2 router, just under general settings. The Netgear is better, just hidden away under "schedules".
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Bill on Aug 04, 2010, 17:31:23
Anything on my LAN that needs the time gets it from the iMac, which uses one of the NPL timeservers... keeps everything nice and tidy :)
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: pctech on Aug 04, 2010, 18:45:16
Netgears seem to lose the time when you power them down (as they don't have a battery backed Real Time Clock) or reboot them so the first entires in the log will always have an odd time/date until they acquire the time from an NTP server.

Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Bill on Aug 04, 2010, 18:54:03
My 3Com is the same (in fact I think most domestic routers are the same). First thing it does after it's established an internet connection is to get the time... it's not bright enough to realise that its time server is on the LAN, not the WAN :dunno:
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Rik on Aug 04, 2010, 18:56:29
Why limit yourself when there's so many to choose from. ;)
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: pctech on Aug 04, 2010, 19:02:17
It doesn't matter really does it?

Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Bill on Aug 04, 2010, 19:05:53
Quote from: Rik on Aug 04, 2010, 18:56:29
Why limit yourself when there's so many to choose from. ;)

Inaccurate clocks are a minor obsession of mine... one way or another, every Level 1 NTP server in the UK gets its time from NPL.

So when my computer wants the time, it asks the organ grinder :P
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: pctech on Aug 04, 2010, 19:07:52
 ;D

Are you one of these people that has those radio controlled clocks?

Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Bill on Aug 04, 2010, 19:10:14
Quote from: pctech on Aug 04, 2010, 19:07:52
;D

Are you one of these people that has those radio controlled clocks?

Several of them... and my wristwatch is radio controlled as well ;D
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Rik on Aug 04, 2010, 19:10:44
Me too as it happens...  :whistle:
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: pctech on Aug 04, 2010, 19:12:15
I did think about buying of those as inaccurate clocks used to be an obsession of mine too but 7 years ago I received a really nice Rotary watch as a Christmas gift from my parents and its the best timekeeper I've ever had.
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Rik on Aug 04, 2010, 19:14:04
Sue works as a good timekeeper for me. ;)
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Bill on Aug 04, 2010, 19:16:36
Rotary watches are good... but the one I had would lose a couple of seconds or so a week. Not good enough!

The radio watches are a bit bulky, if I ever have serious need for a "dress" watch I'd think about a Rotary or similar.
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Rik on Aug 04, 2010, 19:18:27
Or Skagen, Bill. Very elegant. The best conventional watch I have is a Citizen solar-powered perpetual calendar model. It keeps time to within -15 seconds/year.
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Bill on Aug 04, 2010, 19:20:25
Quote from: Rik on Aug 04, 2010, 19:18:27
Or Skagen, Bill. Very elegant.

I'd like this one:

http://www.nauticalia.com/uk-info/jewellery_and_watches/skagen_watches/skagen_titanium_watch/99773.html

Only 4mm thick...
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Rik on Aug 04, 2010, 19:21:07
Got it, the day/date is hard on the eyes.
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: pctech on Aug 04, 2010, 19:22:06
When I do land a job as a network engineer I might buy myself a Junghans one as timing is very important in networking.

Interestingly the GSM mobile phone standard included a capability for the network to transmit a time signal, not sure about elsehwere but none of the networks in the UK implmented it.

Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Bill on Aug 04, 2010, 19:23:54
Quote from: Rik on Aug 04, 2010, 19:21:07
Got it, the day/date is hard on the eyes.

It's for showing off, not telling the time ;)
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Rik on Aug 04, 2010, 19:25:24
 ;D
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Bill on Aug 04, 2010, 19:26:25
Quote from: pctech on Aug 04, 2010, 19:22:06
When I do land a job as a network engineer I might buy myself a Junghans one as timing is very important in networking.

Interestingly the GSM mobile phone standard included a capability for the network to transmit a time signal, not sure about elsehwere but none of the networks in the UK implmented it.

My old Nokia (Vodaphone) had a "Get time from Network" setting... it never worked :(
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Rik on Aug 04, 2010, 19:28:17
It usually just screwed up the correct time you'd set. :)
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: pctech on Aug 04, 2010, 19:29:02
Not quite sure why it was never implmented, probably because they couldn't figure out how to charge for it!
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Glenn on Aug 04, 2010, 19:30:30
They never gave it the time of day.
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Rik on Aug 04, 2010, 19:30:51
:grn:
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: Glenn on Aug 04, 2010, 19:31:27
 :hehe:
Title: Re: General Router Question
Post by: pctech on Aug 04, 2010, 19:33:23
 :grn: