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Title: Office 2010
Post by: Den on Jul 23, 2010, 17:42:03
I have Office 2007 Pro running on both my computers and have purchased 2010 Pro Plus. Do I have to uninstall 2007 first or can I install over the top (upgrade)? If I have to uninstall first how do I save my emails and diary?   :blush:
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Rik on Jul 23, 2010, 17:43:13
You should be able to install as a separate program, Den.
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Den on Jul 23, 2010, 17:46:26
Usual practise is to upgrade and get rid of the old version but I can not find anything on the Microsoft site  :dunno:
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: zappaDPJ on Jul 23, 2010, 20:21:12
They are generally stand alone products so you can install then uninstall or uninstall then install or simply just install and run them both. Does that make any sense at all?  ;D
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Simon on Jul 23, 2010, 21:30:33
So, would the new version automatically pick up the data (emails / contacts / calendar, etc) from the old version, Zap?
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Lance on Jul 23, 2010, 22:31:32
I thought though, you could only have one version of Outlook. Other programs should be fine. I'm not sure about your diary, but to find the file where your emails are saved go to Mail in Control Panel and then click Data Files. It will then show where your pst file is saved (this is the file which your emails are stored in).

Something else which looks like it should capture everything is if within Outlook you go to File, Import and Export, Export to a file, Personal folder file, and then select Personal Folders at the top and tick include subfolders.

To check, you can load the backup back into outlook alongside the live version and you'll be able to see what it has saved.
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: zappaDPJ on Jul 23, 2010, 22:36:57
In the past you could have more than one version of Outlook running and they ran as two separate products with two separate sets of data files.

AFIAK upgrading to or from any version will indeed require you to use the import/export function. However, in the past Microsoft has added new data tables between versions which means there is no easy way of exporting your existing data.
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Steve on Jul 23, 2010, 22:41:47
Summary here http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/outlook/Installing-Office-2010-with-Office-2007-Outlook-Coexistence-Issues.aspx
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Den on Jul 24, 2010, 19:48:14
I upgraded from 2007 to 2010 and it was painless.  ;D  Office transfered all my settings and is running very smoothly indeed. First impressions are very good.  :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Niall on Jul 25, 2010, 09:02:59
Quote from: Den on Jul 24, 2010, 19:48:14
I upgraded from 2007 to 2010 and it was painless.  ;D  Office transfered all my settings and is running very smoothly indeed. First impressions are very good.  :eyebrow:

I was pondering getting this when I upgrade to Windows 7. I noticed that a lot of people are packaging the 2007 Office with a free upgrade to 2010 on pre built systems lately. I assume it's a cheaper way of doing it.
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Inkblot on Jul 25, 2010, 09:20:44
I dislike application that don't perform an upgrade - or at least offer to - when installing a newer version onto a syste that already has an older version on it. Microsoft are generally pretty good at this but other are not - step forward Nero. I installed Nero 10 on my system yesterday and although it was relatively painless (Lots or 'required' MS downloads though) it didn't remove Nero 9 which was already on my system. Why would I want both on the same system at the same time? Does 10 not have all the features of 9?
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Den on Jul 25, 2010, 09:29:06
Quote from: Niall on Jul 25, 2010, 09:02:59
I was pondering getting this when I upgrade to Windows 7. I noticed that a lot of people are packaging the 2007 Office with a free upgrade to 2010 on pre built systems lately. I assume it's a cheaper way of doing it.

See my PM Niall  ;D
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Niall on Jul 25, 2010, 10:57:36
I've just realised that as my mother is doing a degree, we can use that student site for discount software. Ace!

This coming Friday, I shall save myself about £500. Awesome! The only thing I was wondering about, is the amount of times you can install Windows7. I'm upgrading in a few months, which will be an almost completely new PC, so do you have unlimited installs now? I'm wondering because the Windows XP o/s I bought years ago forced me to call M$ on an install after a few, then they said I wouldn't be able to install it again. Then that new verification process came in to play, and it was installed 3 or 4 more times on my PC as hard drives died, hardware was upgraded, then eventually on my sisters PC I built.
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Rik on Jul 25, 2010, 10:58:35
So, the drinks are on you, then, Niall?
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Niall on Jul 25, 2010, 11:01:20
Quite the opposite. The money I'm spending on it, is the money I'd normally spend in the pub in the month, so a healthy month with a new operating system and office package instead :D
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Ray on Jul 25, 2010, 11:02:01
Quote from: Rik on Jul 25, 2010, 10:58:35
So, the drinks are on you, then, Niall?

I hope so,  ;D , why can't they grant these concessionary prices to people who are retired as well?
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Rik on Jul 25, 2010, 11:03:06
Hear hear. :)
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Niall on Jul 25, 2010, 11:04:31
That would be good. My mum is 60 next year, so I could wangle more discounts :D
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Rik on Jul 25, 2010, 11:05:18
 ;D
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Ray on Jul 25, 2010, 11:08:58
 ;D
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Glenn on Jul 25, 2010, 11:10:13
How many home users, use the full features of Office? Most just use Outlook (if included in the package they buy), and maybe Word, a few will use basic Access and Excel, but none will use it to the full potential.
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Rik on Jul 25, 2010, 11:11:21
Hasn't that always been the case though, Glenn - the old rule was 80% of users used just 20% of the functionality of a program.
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Glenn on Jul 25, 2010, 11:12:55
I think with Office, it is around 2% of the functionality is used by the majority.
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Rik on Jul 25, 2010, 11:13:49
That wouldn't surprise me. I certainly gloss over its features most of the time.
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Niall on Jul 25, 2010, 11:17:49
In all honesty I wouldn't use much of it at all. Occasionally I'll need it to look at something, or type something up for someone. When that happens I use Open Office, but while that is good (well, excellent for free) with power point stuff, it doesn't work correctly. My sisters other half is always using it for his presentations and occasionally asks me to look at them, and as they display incorrectly in Openoffice, I can't really advise him.

For £40 though, I've got it handy. Plus the way things are going in my place, I may well need it to type up a CV soon!
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Rik on Jul 25, 2010, 11:19:18
I think everyone should have one to hand these days, Niall. :(
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Niall on Jul 25, 2010, 11:23:05
I'm not too concerned actually. While I've only been there five years, my debts are sufficiently reduced for a severance pay out (there are no packages, despite what the media tells the public) to cover my debts completely. I've learned to live off next to nothing in the last 4 years, so I'd be better off if I lost my job ;D
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Rik on Jul 25, 2010, 11:29:51
 ;D
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Lance on Jul 25, 2010, 15:32:44
Quote from: Rik on Jul 25, 2010, 11:19:18
I think everyone should have one to hand these days, Niall. :(

I've always got an up to date CV just in case. I'm extremely happy with my job at the moment, but that doesn't mean I won't consider other opportunities.
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Rik on Jul 25, 2010, 15:36:02
I remember those days, Lance. Nowadays I just need a list of medications and medical conditions. ;D
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Den on Jul 25, 2010, 19:19:04
I thought you would like the site Niall and the eligibility is there for most people whether a parent, grandparent or guardian as well as a student or teacher.

For everybody who wonders what the hell we are talking about

http://www.software4students.co.uk/
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Rik on Jul 25, 2010, 19:19:59
I know what you're talking about, Den, I'm just wondering what I can persuade Sue to study. ;D
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: zappaDPJ on Jul 27, 2010, 02:38:04
I use Outlook everyday, Word everyday, Excel most days and PowerPoint regularly. I don't use Access, OneNote or Publisher at all though. And what on earth are Groove and InfoPath?
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Rik on Jul 27, 2010, 09:36:40
Relics of LPs? ;)
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: zappaDPJ on Jul 27, 2010, 10:59:11
 ;D
Title: Re: Office 2010
Post by: Den on Jul 27, 2010, 19:23:26
I don't think its my imagination but since I upgraded from Office 2007 to 2010 my computer seems to be running faster and things such as Quickbooks 2010 Pro loads in a flash.  ;D