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Title: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: Simon on Jun 18, 2010, 22:19:45
One of the key ministers charged with delivering the next generation of internet services for Britain can't even define what the government means by superfast broadband, according to a published answer to a parliamentary question.

Responding to a written question asking for a definition of what the government meant by the term, Edward Vaizey, the lead minister for all matters internet related, choose not to put any figures on target speeds.

"Super fast broadband means broadband of sufficient speed and quality to deliver the services that will lead to Britain having the best broadband network in Europe," said Vaizey, Minister for Culture, Communications and Creative Industries.

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/broadband/358810/so-just-what-is-superfast-broadband-minister
Title: Re: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: kinmel on Jun 18, 2010, 22:26:54

An answer straight out of "Yes Minister"
Title: Re: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: Simon on Jun 18, 2010, 22:28:43
 ;D
Title: Re: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: Niall on Jun 18, 2010, 23:01:41
So basically he's a clueless yes man that doesn't actually know anything about the subject he's tasked with, other than what he's been told. Then he thinks 10mb is awesome, will announce that but then someone says "psst, oi guv, heard of Sweden?" and he fills his pants and backtracks and double talks.

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Title: Re: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: Glenn on Jun 19, 2010, 06:55:38
So what is superfast then?
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Post by: Rik on Jun 19, 2010, 08:46:45
Better than ordinary fast? ;)
Title: Re: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: talos on Jun 19, 2010, 09:06:52
It's a faster fast ;D
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Post by: Rik on Jun 19, 2010, 09:08:47
A bit like brilliant white compared to white, eh Bob? ;)
Title: Re: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: talos on Jun 19, 2010, 09:09:14
Exactly Rik :laugh:
Title: Re: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: Den on Jun 19, 2010, 09:45:14
As technology is changing all the time and what was superfast ten years ago would now be very slow I think that was a good answer. To say that we will endever to stay ahead of Europe and have the best broadband available is a great answer rather than saying we will have 10mbs when the technology improves further and Europe has 100mbs.  ;D
Title: Re: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: Technical Ben on Jun 19, 2010, 12:13:39
Really? You mean you don't think he is giving the same answer as BT does Den?
At least say "we cannot give a number because we are constantly improving". Or "we will increase it". These are both honest, and humble (as I know the money may not be there).
But why call it "super fast" if it's just "sufficient"? Perhaps "New" is just a better word. Considering they are not increasing the speed of light, latency or distance travelled. No increase in speed there. They might increase bandwidth though. ;)

Next year Ferrari release a "super fast car". It travels twice the speed of the old ones. It has the same engine, but 4 seats instead of 2.  :whistle:
Title: Re: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: cavillas on Jun 19, 2010, 12:47:33
Quote from: Technical Ben on Jun 19, 2010, 12:13:39
Really? You mean you don't think he is giving the same answer as BT does Den?
At least say "we cannot give a number because we are constantly improving". Or "we will increase it". These are both honest, and humble (as I know the money may not be there).
But why call it "super fast" if it's just "sufficient"? Perhaps "New" is just a better word. Considering they are not increasing the speed of light, latency or distance travelled. No increase in speed there. They might increase bandwidth though. ;)

Next year Ferrari release a "super fast car". It travels twice the speed of the old ones. It has the same engine, but 4 seats instead of 2.  :whistle:

Or it's 1/2 the length. ;D

and in answer to BT it depends on how much they cut the delivery speed to, if they cut it by 80% then doubling that will mean superfast. :eek4:
Title: Re: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: pctech on Jun 20, 2010, 08:25:13
in a word we need fibre.


Title: Re: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: talos on Jun 20, 2010, 09:31:08
 :dunno: Back to food again :slap:
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Post by: pctech on Jun 20, 2010, 09:37:33
 ;D
Title: Re: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: Rik on Jun 20, 2010, 11:01:19
Do we ever leave it, Bob? ;)
Title: Re: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: pctech on Jun 20, 2010, 11:03:56
We know you don't Rik  ;D
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Post by: Rik on Jun 20, 2010, 11:04:49
 ;D
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Post by: VaderDSL on Jun 22, 2010, 15:48:29
We just need to skip straight to ludicrous speed broadband!
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Post by: gizmo71 on Jun 22, 2010, 16:49:28
"superfast"?! I need to pass through the "adequate" phase first! ::)
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Post by: Glenn on Jun 22, 2010, 16:51:23
Me too
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Post by: esh on Jun 23, 2010, 00:07:31
Super Mega Fast Turbo Broadband PLUS+ Extreme Edition
Title: Re: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: Rik on Jun 23, 2010, 09:05:17
So that would be 8Mb then? ;)
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Post by: pctech on Jun 23, 2010, 12:37:38
I'll be interested when 100Meg arrives.
Title: Re: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: Rik on Jun 23, 2010, 12:39:52
Choked at the exchange by a hot VP and delivering 2M on average.  :evil:
Title: Re: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: pctech on Jun 23, 2010, 13:18:43
If BT has got anything to do with it no doubt.

Mind you looking at the cost of routers and the line cards I'm not surprsied, it makes your eyes water although its small change in terms of BT.
Title: Re: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: Rik on Jun 23, 2010, 14:47:47
And small change is all they ever give us. :)
Title: Re: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: Technical Ben on Jun 23, 2010, 19:54:32
Sounds a lot like most "progress" these days. It's all in the wrong direction, but spun to be the right one. Just as long as it's what I'm being fed metaphorically and not in reality.
Title: Re: So just what is superfast broadband, minister?
Post by: pctech on Jun 23, 2010, 22:12:28
Think the only way we'll get it is if some enterprising soul with big pockets builds a microwave backhaul network of some kind.