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Title: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Technical Ben on Jun 04, 2010, 18:46:14
After the bank turned me down for my last commercial endeavour (http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=20394.msg487737#msg487737), I've decided to look elsewhere to improve my internet connection.

I've read about WiMAX and how it's allowing people to connect to the internet in areas completely broadband less. With speeds of up to 40 Mbit/s over 30 miles, it sounds great. However I don't have expensive equipment and the banks not keen to invest. So I will have to look at "alternative" methods of data transmission.
During my research this news story (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1212214/Company-enlists-Winston-homing-pigeon-carry-data-transfer--faster-broadband.html) of one South African business came up. They are using carrier pigeon to transfer data. So off I went to get myself 2 pigeons (I want 2 way data transfers you see).

So for £40, I have 2 birds, and some complementary "bird seed". (Note to self: Must find out how much seed costs, is it cheap?) But before I send them off I thought I'd calculate the cost and transfer rate expected. The birds are rated for carrying 75 grams. A Micro SD card can be up to 32Gb and weighs just 0.5 grams. With 150 of these packed in at 33mm long, 30mm wide and 25mm deep, they fit snugly on the birds back. I've hit a little snag at finding a supply of 300 cards, and there is the £25,839 cost. But I think Amazon accepts bulk orders and may give a discount.
   So we now have 4,800GB* per bird, at a cost of £12,939.50p each. They travel at 90kmph (that's 56mph for us old fogeys). Using London as a rough guide for the distance required, I beat WiMax rage of 50km (30miles**), at 144.85km, or 90 miles. The birds should be able to easily make the trip in 96 minutes. I'll be generous and give them one hour and forty minutes just in case there is a head wind.
   So now the journey is set up, we just need to get the data on the cards and calculate the transfer rate. Well, this is where we hit a snag. At only 100Mbit/s transfer for each card, it's going to take an age*** to transfer on one lone card reader. But as they are cheep, only £2 each, I can run them in a series of 10. Perhaps 5 readers over two PCs or some such setup. Each with a small amount of bird seed perched on top to attract the pigeons. This reduces our transfer time to 38,400 seconds, or 21 hours and 20 minutes. Add to that the travel time of 100 minutes and we get a total transfer rate of 3.478GB per minute. Or in easy to understand terms, 463.3Mbps. If we only require 46Mbps it's a much more reasonable £1371.95 per bird, excluding seed.
   We now have an easy, very chirp cost, country wide wireless broadband that beats WiMax speed. The only thing left to decide is a name for this new broadband service. "Pigeon Integrated - Personal Internet" was my first consideration.

PS, seems I have a bit of competition. WiMAX is planning 1Gbit/s access (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX)! I may have to inquire about a Golden Eagle...

*4.8 Terrabytes!
**31.07 Miles to be precise.
***That is 106 hours and 40 minutes. Just over 4 days.
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Steve on Jun 04, 2010, 18:48:37
I think the latency could be a problem for gaming :whistle:
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Technical Ben on Jun 04, 2010, 18:49:14
At 48 hours, really?  :whistle:
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: pctech on Jun 04, 2010, 18:52:53
I think RFC2549 (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2549) covers it.

Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: quandam on Jun 04, 2010, 19:09:06
Not deeply into this but relying on 'birds', 'bird seed', 'carrier pigeons' and 'chirps' etc etc seems a bit 'iffy' to me. I would say, think again? :dunno:
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Technical Ben on Jun 04, 2010, 19:10:43
So your saying I'm better off investing in a buzzard then Q?  >:D
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Rik on Jun 04, 2010, 19:12:19
Eagle, Ben. ;)
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: quandam on Jun 04, 2010, 19:12:33
Quote from: Technical Ben on Jun 04, 2010, 19:10:43
So your saying I'm better off investing in a buzzard then Q?  >:D

Your choice!
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: cavillas on Jun 04, 2010, 19:54:58
How about a number of Swifts?  They fly faster. ;D
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Rik on Jun 04, 2010, 20:09:11
Only in season, Alf. ;)
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: talos on Jun 05, 2010, 07:34:49
But with a pigeon you can at least eat the carrier ;)
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Glenn on Jun 05, 2010, 07:52:20
Quote from: cavillas on Jun 04, 2010, 19:54:58
How about a number of Swifts?  They fly faster. ;D

Or a peregrine falcon, they would offer a premium service.
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Baz on Jun 05, 2010, 08:31:32
Ben,please be very very careful about transferring your data this way.

THIS IS A SCAM!!!!!!!!

put briefly,the birds will simply fly back to their home......homing pigeons......ie the person from whom you bought them.

dats lost,sold on,abused etc  :slap:
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Steve on Jun 05, 2010, 11:54:45
You seem to feeding us some seeds of doubt I suppose it would be cheap,cheap  >:D
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Rik on Jun 05, 2010, 12:18:50
:grn:
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Simon on Jun 05, 2010, 12:22:28
I've heard that Millets are interested in marketing this.   ;)
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: pctech on Jun 05, 2010, 12:22:53
Does seem to be a bit of a bird brain of an idea.

Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Bill on Jun 05, 2010, 12:35:23
Quote from: Simon on Jun 05, 2010, 12:22:28
I've heard that Millets are interested in marketing this.   ;)

Coo  :P
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Rik on Jun 05, 2010, 12:43:13
 :argh:
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Glenn on Jun 05, 2010, 12:46:18
Sounds like you are all scratching around for fresh ideas
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Glenn on Jun 05, 2010, 12:47:45
You all know if you want your service to be a soar away success, you need Condors.
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Rik on Jun 05, 2010, 13:09:39
I'm not sure I can take much more. :gulp:
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Glenn on Jun 05, 2010, 13:12:22
don't flap. ;D
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Simon on Jun 05, 2010, 13:12:48
You'll be winging it off for lunch soon, anyway.  ;D
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Rik on Jun 05, 2010, 13:17:13
You're right there - DR burger. :)
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Glenn on Jun 05, 2010, 13:17:59
I just had a couple of 4oz'ers
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Rik on Jun 05, 2010, 13:22:20
I'm on a single 8oz. :)
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Simon on Jun 05, 2010, 13:25:12
Same here!  ;D
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Technical Ben on Jun 05, 2010, 14:22:30
Trust Ric to bring the conversation back to reality... Hmmm now where is that Pie?  :whistle:
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Den on Jun 05, 2010, 14:39:33
I don'y know about this it sounds a bit dodgy but it will most likely be OK for Twitter  :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: pctech on Jun 05, 2010, 14:44:25
 :grn:
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Bill on Jun 05, 2010, 15:37:37
Rik will be spitting feathers soon.
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: pctech on Jun 05, 2010, 15:41:51
 :grn:
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Technical Ben on Jun 05, 2010, 16:34:39
Quote from: Den on Jun 05, 2010, 14:39:33
I don'y know about this it sounds a bit dodgy but it will most likely be OK for Twitter  :eyebrow:

:rofls: :karma:
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Rik on Jun 05, 2010, 16:55:51
Quote from: Simon on Jun 05, 2010, 13:25:12
Same here!  ;D

It's obviously burger day for the staff. :)
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Simon on Jun 05, 2010, 17:07:27
Mine was a lamb burger.  ;)
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Rik on Jun 05, 2010, 17:08:54
Beef. :)
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Simon on Jun 05, 2010, 17:10:30
Carnivore?
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Rik on Jun 05, 2010, 17:11:01
Whichever is the largest, I never remember the names.
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Glenn on Jun 05, 2010, 17:16:36
They are easy to tell apart, cows go moo, sheep baa
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Rik on Jun 05, 2010, 17:17:07
And Scrooge goes humbug. ;D
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: pctech on Jun 05, 2010, 17:25:20
I prefer beef too but a roast leg of lamb is nice.

Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Rik on Jun 05, 2010, 17:25:51
So much choice, so little time to eat it all...
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Glenn on Jun 05, 2010, 17:29:48
Venison is great, I had Skippy last week too, I got him pinned to the plate so he couldn't hop away.
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Rik on Jun 05, 2010, 17:30:16
:grn:
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: pctech on Jun 05, 2010, 17:33:10
 :iagree: :grn:
Title: Re: Making my own Wi-fi Broadband!
Post by: Glenn on Jun 05, 2010, 18:26:11
 :hehe: :thnks: