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Title: My Line
Post by: psp83 on Jun 02, 2010, 13:40:51
I've read in different topics that after X amount of days the exchange equipment should drop the noise margin by 3 and sync increase etc etc.

My router has been connected and not had a resync (from what I know) in 618 hrs or 25 days to everyone else but my line stats have stayed the same..

Do you think my line is "locked" to them settings to keep it stable?

Connection Speed   6318 kbps   1016 kbps
Line Attenuation   40 db   12 db
Noise Margin   11 db   5 db
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: Glenn on Jun 02, 2010, 14:05:27
Is your router reporting many errors on the connection Paul?
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: Steve on Jun 02, 2010, 14:43:55
Sometimes the downstream sync is banded and it won't let you sync any higher but your a bit below the top of that band which is 6656
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: Rik on Jun 02, 2010, 14:46:40
You're not profiled, Paul, DLM is controlling your line. Did you resync this morning?
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: psp83 on Jun 02, 2010, 14:46:47
Quote from: Glenn on Jun 02, 2010, 14:05:27
Is your router reporting many errors on the connection Paul?

How do you tell on a netgear?
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: Rik on Jun 02, 2010, 14:47:16
Which model?
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: psp83 on Jun 02, 2010, 14:47:53
Quote from: Rik on Jun 02, 2010, 14:46:40
Did you resync this morning?

Not what I know.  ???
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: Rik on Jun 02, 2010, 14:49:08
There was definitely a resync this morning, the previous one was on May 7.
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: psp83 on Jun 02, 2010, 14:50:18
Quote from: Rik on Jun 02, 2010, 14:47:16
Which model?

DGN2000 & DG834G
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: psp83 on Jun 02, 2010, 14:52:24
Quote from: Rik on Jun 02, 2010, 14:49:08
There was definitely a resync this morning, the previous one was on May 7.

Probly happened when I was messing around by the router and knocked something.

OR

It could of been when I was changing some settings on the router..

I dont know, I'm not normally with it in the mornings lol..
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: Rik on Jun 02, 2010, 14:53:57
Quote from: psp83 on Jun 02, 2010, 14:50:18
DGN2000 & DG834G

Kitz is your friend:

http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/frogstats.php
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: psp83 on Jun 02, 2010, 15:04:07
[DSL Modem Stats]
        US Connection Rate:     1016    DS Connection Rate:     6318
        DS Line Attenuation:    40      DS Margin:              12
        US Line Attenuation:    24      US Margin:              5
        US Payload :            3097875312      DS Payload:             37186197
92
        US Superframe Cnt :     131264449       DS Superframe Cnt:      13126444
9
        US Transmit Power :     0       DS Transmit Power:      0
        LOS errors:             3       SEF errors:             0
        Errored Seconds:        6496    Severely Err Secs:      3
        Frame mode:             0       Max Frame mode:         0
        Trained Path:           0       US Peak Cell Rate:      2396
        Trained Mode:           16      Selected Mode:          1
        ATUC Vendor Code:       54535443        ATUC Revision:  3
        Hybrid Selected:        1       Trellis:                1
        Showtime Count:         1       DS Max Attainable Bit Rate: 6344 kbps
        BitSwap:                1       US Max Attainable Bit Rate: 1247362 bps
        Annex:                  AnxA    psd_mask_qualifier: 0x0000
        Power Management Status: L0     DS HLINSC: 0
        US ACTPSD:              -345    DS ACTPSD: -366
        Total init. errors:     0       Total init. timeouts: 0
        Showtime init. errors:  0       Showtime init. timeouts: 0
        Last showtime init. errors: 0   Last showtime init. timeouts: 0
        ATUC ghsVid:  b5 00 54 53 54 43 05 10
        T1413Vid: 00 00         T1413Rev: 00            VendorRev: 00
        ATUR ghsVid:  b5 00 54 53 54 43 00 00
        T1413Vid: 00 00 T1413Rev: 00    VendorRev: 00

        [Upstream (TX) Interleave path]
        CRC:    0       FEC:    0       NCD:    0
        LCD:    0       HEC:    0

        [Downstream (RX) Interleave path]
        CRC:    0       FEC:    0       NCD:    0
        LCD:    0       HEC:    0

        [Upstream (TX) Fast path]
        CRC:    3652    FEC:    0       NCD:    0
        LCD:    0       HEC:    3030

        [Downstream (RX) Fast path]
        CRC:    7683    FEC:    0       NCD:    0
        LCD:    0       HEC:    0

[ATM Stats]
        [Upstream/TX]
        Good Cell Cnt:  64539069
        Idle Cell Cnt:  987662415

        Tx Packets Dropped Count:       0
        Tx Bad Packets Count:   2

        [Downstream/RX)]
        Good Cell Cnt:  703820643
        Idle Cell Cnt:  2482777207
        Bad Hec Cell Cnt:       16119
        Overflow Dropped Cell Cnt:      0
        Rx Packets Dropped Count:       0
        Rx Bad Packets Count:   0


[SAR AAL5 Stats]
        Tx PDU's:       18056966
        Rx PDU's:       28224403
        Tx Total Bytes: 2246329142
        Rx Total Bytes: 2901565206
        Tx Total Error Counts:  0
        Rx Total Error Counts:  209
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: Rik on Jun 02, 2010, 15:08:03
Have you got an uptime to go with that, Paul?
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: psp83 on Jun 02, 2010, 15:08:45
System Up Time 619:59:20
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: Rik on Jun 02, 2010, 15:16:17
That's LAN presumably, not WAN?
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: psp83 on Jun 02, 2010, 15:18:47
WAN   PPPoA   170255   219539   0   2369   15460   03:37:39

And you was right about the resync this morning.

Wed, 2010-06-02 11:39:44 - LCP down.
Wed, 2010-06-02 11:39:46 - Initialize LCP.
Wed, 2010-06-02 11:39:46 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Wed, 2010-06-02 11:40:07 - CHAP authentication success
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: Rik on Jun 02, 2010, 15:20:48
Something over 2,000 errors/hour, then, 3-4 a minute. I expect DLM is using the noise margin to keep the line stable.
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: psp83 on Jun 02, 2010, 15:25:46
Quote from: Rik on Jun 02, 2010, 15:20:48
Something over 2,000 errors/hour, then, 3-4 a minute. I expect DLM is using the noise margin to keep the line stable.

I guess thats bad then  ???

Thought it was doing something like that as my stats hasn't changed for ages.

Connection Speed   6318 kbps   1016 kbps
Line Attenuation   40 db   12 db
Noise Margin   12 db   5 db

Everytime I get a resync the sync speed doesn't change even if the margin is below the default 15.

Not complaining though, Line seems stable since changing over to ADSL2, More stable than ADSL1, aslongs it stays like it  ;D
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: Rik on Jun 02, 2010, 15:34:25
It's not bad, Paul, it's just how the system works. You're still doing better than me. :)
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: psp83 on Jun 02, 2010, 17:00:57
Quote from: Rik on Jun 02, 2010, 15:34:25
It's not bad, Paul, it's just how the system works. You're still doing better than me. :)

I'm just wondering if a new line would help. But neighbours get around the same speed, we are on the same pole (left side of house).

I know the pole on the same side of the road but the right side of our house gets better speeds.
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: Rik on Jun 02, 2010, 17:12:49
There's too many variables for anyone to tell you whether a new line would help - there may be different paths back to the exchange, or a better pair etc.
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: psp83 on Jun 02, 2010, 18:39:09
Quote from: Rik on Jun 02, 2010, 17:12:49
There's too many variables for anyone to tell you whether a new line would help - there may be different paths back to the exchange, or a better pair etc.

I do like a nice pair!  :whistle:

:evil:

Anyways...... 5-6meg is ok for me at the mo.
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: Rik on Jun 02, 2010, 18:40:39
I'm lucky here. As the first ADSL adopter, I got a kind BT engineer who found the best pair for me. :)
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: psp83 on Jun 02, 2010, 19:09:12
Quote from: Rik on Jun 02, 2010, 18:40:39
I'm lucky here. As the first ADSL adopter, I got a kind BT engineer who found the best pair for me. :)

The last person that looked at my line changed the pair to be a better pair on the pole and said my line was going "the long" way and said he re-routed it a shorter way.

But he also said that the box on the pole was corroded.
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: Rik on Jun 02, 2010, 19:12:48
No poles, no boxes here, Paul, just aluminium. :(
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: psp83 on Jun 02, 2010, 19:17:30
What do you think is better.. poles or underground? My sister lives double the distance away from the exchange than I do and her connection is just as good as mine!  :rant2: Her phoneline is underground.
Title: Re: My Line
Post by: Rik on Jun 02, 2010, 19:20:49
Underground every time, less interference (noise) pickup, generally less corrosion, though that's not guaranteed.